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I wish I could just do that, but for me it doesn't work. It will just taint this episode.

For me its the opposite, no matter how good it is, if nothing is followed up on, it will just make me even more disappointed at the lost potential. I'm sure Jensen was great though.

Maybe at the end of the season when i see how it all plays out, but given home many times things like this end as a bait and switch, I'd rather not.

We know that Dean doesn't care about his own death. If it was about him having to do something, like jump into the cage or go to the empty then we know Dean wouldn't hesitate. He would only have that kind of reaction if it involved Sam having to suffer somehow. Whatever Sam does ends with Dean dead and Sam suffering . I just don' see it Dean's death revolving around him, not on Dabbnatural. But I feel like I'm starting to go over the jerk/bitch line, so I'll leave it there.

Did they show a name on the book? I didn't see the episode. It would be a good story line if Sam has to kill Dean, and let him learn what its like that you have to life with the knowledge that you might have to kill your own brother. It probably something like Sam has to say yes to Lucifer and jump back in the cage, and you die when Michael leaves you. I guess we know why Dean is in a bad place physically in episode 12, Michael has probably left. This might have been a good episode, but it doesn't change the fact that Dabb is still in charge.

Im guessing the end of this ep will have to do with Sam's unimaginable choice Dean wouldn't get upset about his own death, only if it was about something happening to Sam or something Sam has to do. So Sam probably has to go back to the cage or something, Since the 300th episode is coming up, its Demon Dean all over again. Dean has to be normal for that, so I'm guessing this story ends with episode 12.

This is Dabbnatural. Nothing revolves around Dean. Unless Jensen is leaving the show (which he know he's not) then what ever he read, is going to revolve around Sam. It's always does. I can't get my hopes up. I'm sure this will be dropped in a couple of episodes anyway.

That's the promo. Not the sneak peek. The sneak peek is usually a clip from the episode.

So is this episode not important enough for a sneak peek? They usually come out around 1pm my time. So it certainly not a priority for anyone. Again, I don't buy, It's too spoilery.

From @gonzosgirrl is the media thread . There was barely any promo pics, very little publicity about the premier tonight, no sneak peak (so far) all kinds of promos about future episodes, and the lastest Dabb has had no problem blabbing major things not happening with the Michael story line, like Dean wans't secretly possessed and there would be no follow up because Dean was "immune" to trauma. It almost like they're hoping this get low ratings so they can blame the Michael story

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https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/17/supernatural-jensen-ackles-jared-padalecki-dad-return-episode-300/ What exactly does Sam need to apologize to John for? Isn't this the exact same scene we saw in The Song Remains the Same where Sam says he understands? Father and Son. Singular, not plural. I guess Dean was adopted after all. Dabb really did just copy and paste What is and What should Never Be. But it really sounds like Dean's scene with John is like the one with Mary. Glad, your back, her's how much Sam suffered because of what you did.

Watching the extended trailer, whoever Dean is kicking, that "oof" sounds a lot like Jensen. So if that is another version of Dean, why would they're be two Dean's in that scenario

You're giving the writers far more credit than they deserve. I doubt anything other than "yay, JDM is available for the 300th" crossed his mind. I want to know why if getting closure from John is a secret desire of Sam's why is it Dean's wish? (Not meant as bitch/jerk, bitterness) just a question that crossed my mind.

Seeing the extended promo, why is Sam saying, "If I can get into Dean's head maybe I (meaning Sam) can push Michael out). Since when come someone tell an angel to unpossess someone else. Either its more lol!canon, more SuperSam or Sam really has no faith in Dean's ability to fight Michael on his own, otherwise why not say 'Encourge Dean to fight" Or more likley, all three.

We know that John tried to keep Sam isolated from hunting. We know that Sam was in a play, was a mathlete, and played soccor, so he had at least some semblance of a normal life. I think canon supports Sam being the favored son. We know that John was proud of him and checked up on him while he was at school. Dean he couldn't even bother to return a phone call. I don't think Sam had a story book child hood by any means, but at least he had both John and Dean, and Zanna looking out for him. Dean really had no one growing up. As a result of John's so called parenting, Dean grew up with no sense of identity outside of Sam. He had one job, protect Sam at any cost. He grew up believing he didn't matter. So Mary's deal might have effected Sam more and even I believe Sam needed the confrontation with Mary more than Dean, just like I believe that John's partenting had a more profound effect on Dean. The show, IMO, is giving the wrong parent to the wrong brother.

https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/16/supernatural-jeffrey-dean-morgan-interview-john-winchester/?utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=70652472-19C1-11E9-ABB6-5313933C408C&utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly So only Sammy was messed up? Let Sam have time with his father, but its Dean who John messed up more. Sam he doted on. Dean was the blunt instrument.

It's the exact plot of What is and What Should Never be.

Hold on to your horses I’m gonna predict the entire plot of 300 Kind getting BTVS “The Wish” vibes from the episode 300 plot description? Dean makes a wish Dad comes back Everything is great But oops reality has been affected as well Cas never met the Winchesters and never rebelled Bonus: Zachariah cameo Jack was never born etc Dean undoes the wish by the end of the episode to set things right But not before they get CLOSURE with John The end I saw this on tumblr, and I think its probably pretty accurate http://beautifulkhaleeesi.tumblr.com/post/182063886864/hold-on-to-your-horses-im-gonna-predict-the

Note the caption I wished they had given Sam that scene with Mary. It makes more sense since it was all about him, and he's the one that needed closure with Mary more. I never felt Dean really did and that he had any resentment toward Mary. Jensen is great at the subtle things, and if I was supposed to be seeing that I think it would have been there in more of the scenes. As long as Dean's scene is about Dean and actually addresses some of the issues than Sam can have all the closure he wants. I want to see Jensen get his wish of him saying 'how dare you" take my childhood to John.

JDM only filmed 2 days of this episode, so he'll be in about 10 minutes at most. I think that concept will still be part of the episode.

So Dabb is just ripping off What is and What Should Never Be. He has to be the laziest showrunner in the history of television. It sounds like my prediction was right. Dean gets the fluff and the hero worship, Sam gets the meat and the closure. I bet Sam won't talk about how their childhood messed up Dean. https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/16/supernatural-ew-cover-300-episodes/?utm_medium=social&utm_term=9B9740D8-19AF-11E9-B2A8-15D9FCA12A29&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_ew&utm_source=twitter.com I can see the end of this ep ending with John telling Sam how proud he is of him and he'll tell Dean he did a great job of taking care of Sam.

Since this promo seems to be multiple episodes, I think it has nothing to do with what's going on in Dean's head. It's probably part of Sam's "impossible choice" We see Sam crying and looking haggard, so I'm guessing the choice we be more than just debating whether to kill Nick

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We saw Lucifer start to rise when Nick prayed to him. Given that the show is great at follow up, it doesn't matter if the empty keeper didn't notice. That wasn't the storyline that week so its not worth mentioning. The synopsis said something about him find out finding the answer to what he's been searching for. Nick wants to be possessed again. Then for ep 12,he comes face to face with his past. So I can't see what else that could mean, other than Lucifer rising. Plus, if you've seen the cast/crew photo for this season Mark P is wearing his Lucifer leather jacket. This show has an obsession with Lucifer/Mark P. Add all this up and its obvious Lucifer is comingback. if his is the choice, (and I hope its nothing more than this) than we know he chooses not to kill him or if he does he'll be back because Nick/Lucifer is in episode 12. Unless its Nick vs Nick, Lucifer will need to be in another vessel, which wouldn't surprise me if it was Sam. There is a new version of Sam, which I'm guessing is going to be prophet Sam