Watermelon

I'm 1000% sure most American whites don't consider Iranians white.

THATS RIGHT! It was pissing me off that I knew who she was, but didn't know from where!

We know she's married. Her being married could easily be another stunt and show, regardless of your various sources.

Hell, a real marriage certificate don't prove the marriage itself is real

My favorite was always the "I'm mad" song. The idea of the horror that is traveling with kids has never been so fun.

Wikipedia says besides RuPaul, it's only been the Village People and Sylvester. You can be cute and add the B-52s for partial credit if you want.

It's a separate thing. It's being produced by the woman who produces the love and hip hop shows, so I'm sort of surprised it isn't on VH1. That's really the better channel for it, tbh

This is the first time I remember the girls in the back full on dancing during the lip sync for your life.

I've heard of it. A lot of the female WWE superstars use it and I've seen it on Instagram. It looks like an adult manic panic

That's interesting. I don't consider Shea and Bob having very much in common at all, except being dark-skinned black men. Peppermint also gives me nothing of Latrice(except in talking heads) and none of Coco the Dorito at all. I'll give you trinity, though I don't know that I'd consider her "less" than Shanell or Chad. Sasha to me, is a mix of Jinxx and Betty, but again, I wouldn't say less.

It's on either wow or logo's YouTube page

I feel very disrespected by the blatant timeline shenanigans in this last episode. First they say Towanda got a call from andre(in short hair), went to spend time with toni(allegedly same day in long hair), and flew back to Atlanta to meet with Andre back in short hair. then there's Tamar's talking head filmed the same day she hung out with ton. She shows up in that same talking head outfit discussing things later in the episode, making it obvious her and Toni's talk happened after other things in real time.

I enjoy Patrick. He comes with crop tops, and adorable puppy, a southern accent, AND a smattering of drama.

I find the "Well Tamar invited her husband and baby" narrative interesting because it's not the first time that's happened. I swear they've had that same dialogue happen a smooth 3 prior times. At what point are the other girls gonna take the initiative to say, "hey I want my kids with me", instead of being mad that Tamar and her velcro are sticking to stereotypes. I do think there's an underlying thing of them reaaaaaaally not seeing it for Vince(ever and especially after the 911 call) and so wanting even more distance than normal.

I think the real definition to know is "things started happening." Tony got married at 30. If the divorce happened right before that only Tamar was 20. Towanda and Trina would be 22/23 ish

AND IT SHIFTS.

I'm watching this now. How old did tony end up being? Because she said tony said he was 27 when they first started talking...when she was 17. Ooooo never mind. It's only been 3 months so at worst she was 19. Much much better

So. Why is Laurel angry?

Lolo = Annoyance. I've yet to meet anybody who likes her after hearing her speak. But I think I can get behind her as a person on the Challenge.

Did she say that's ALL she eats? Because I don't really see what would make you think that's a lie. What sort of salad? How much fruit? Green juices have a ton of calories in them if you do it wrong. Eating healthily and being fat aren't mutually exclusive.

My xfinity calls it season 30.

Tamar is interesting because even though she's dramatic and histrionic AF she's also the one who puts the name on it. She said she was nice to Ms. Wanda in order to get her father to the wedding because she saw Toni sad at hers, and Trina devastated at hers because he didn't come. She's also the one who internalized the fact that her dad didn't really give enough of a damn about Trina to actually go to the wedding and decided to put on his IZ A MAN hat and miss his daughter's wedding DESPITE Wanda telling him to go. I think that moment right there is when she flipped over to crazy. There's also the case of him not visiting when she was sick...I, of course, believe they told him he couldn't fly because I remember his other health issues. I wonder is her problem that he didn't try at all, like, idk...a road trip or a train or something like that. Or the fact that he couldn't come and didn't really keep in touch at all. In my (un parental) head, if my baby is cross country and I can't get to her, I'm gonna facetime daily. Twice a day. I'm texting, and checking in and all that. I wonder if Michael just was like, "ah, I can't go" and left it at that.

That's shady lol.

I'm very very happy to be wrong.

Violet to me is what they tried to sell Kim Chi and Naomi as on Season 8 and I just have to say, NO. Naomi was not worthy of top 3. IDC IDC IDC. And while I don't need my drag race winners to dance, they shouldn't clomp. And they shouldn't lisp. Sorry, not sorry.