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I think that interview was the East Coast editor's idea of a parody of Isaac interviewing Sam. At least, I hope it was.

Camomile, I said they needed to rename the show to something like "Project Runway, the Judges got it all wrong." Never did I say that the first eliminated should be on an All Stars show. In fact, the show could even be done in LA, since so many of the first eliminated were from there.

I enjoyed the finale and liked the Dom win but I agree that the title is ridiculous. How about reversing it and doing a show called something like "Project Runway, The Judges got it all wrong". Instead of so called All Stars, have a show where all the contestants are the first ones eliminated from their seasons. Obviously, that would give us another look at Daniel Franco.... But looking through the cast lists, there are some contestants I barely remember and some I don't at all and it might bring a bit of new blood to the concept. We're almost getting to that point anyways but I'd like to see some designs from people who made the cut to get on the show only to not be able to show what they can do. First Eliminated: S1: Daniel Franco S2: John Wade (I sort of remember him because he lost a tremendous amount of weight when seen on the reunion show) S3: Stacey Estrella S4: Simone LeBlanc S5: Jerry Tam S6: Ari Fish S7: Christiane King S8: McKell Maddox S9: Rafael Cox S10: Beatrice Guapo S11: Emily Pollard S12: Angela Bacskocky S13: Jefferson Masunda (S12 also had three designers eliminated before an official challenge) S14: Duncan Chambers-Watson

I liked Daniel Franco, who seemed sincere, in spite of his smarminess. He owns a pop-up Wedding Chapel in Mid-Wilshire and it's as tacky as you would imagine. That said, I think he worked under an LA concept of what the Country Music Awards are. He made something that would have been great for the MTV Awards or even the AMAs or Grammys but not the CMAs. He seemed to be trying to mimic arguably the most famous design by a PR alumnus, the Beyonce Grammy dress by Michael Costello. The significant difference is that Costello's dress gave the impression of showing lots of skin, while Franco's dress actually did show the skin.

The episode was spoilt early on when TH Candice said that no one thinks Merline is a threat. She really is quite insufferable, although I'm sure she'll say she was taken out of context. As for Jake's model, someone upthread mentioned the Wedding Challenge from S1. In that Challenge, the models specifically were the clients so they had the right to demand what their dresses looked like. Remember Jay and the infamous Morgan? In this challenge, the model was that, a model and she had no business telling the designer what to do or what she liked. Who was that designer a few seasons back who said he hated breasts? At least Blake smiled about it, but that designer was really serious. And I also agree that the prejoratives for Heidi, by another female no less, are very much out of line.

If anything, Ashley's behavior also fed into the stereotype that women are overly emotional and take things too personally. Another sexist notch in the girls' team's belt. Sabotage? The runway lines told stories that were consistent with what we saw in the workroom. I understand why people want to make excuses because what the group itself suggested was that these all female work environments are toxic. It's tough to argue when they come up with a terrible collection that encapsulated so much of that dysfunction.

I think that's total revisionist history. Watch the episode again. The guys were working on everything every second. At the judging panel, each contestant on the boys+Merline talked about the contributions of each designer to each gown and were very specific about it. Jake opened up by saying no one outfit was the sole product of any one designer.

And the discussion should also be: Would Ashley have reacted differently had she been on the Mens' team (even if she were picked last) and would that have influenced her design? Laurie said that whenever Ashley tried to use her voice, she would be silenced by the Mean Girls. The Mens' team + Merlene amply demonstrated that everyone's individual talent and vision were not simply appreciated but completely necessary to the collection. They said so, but you saw it. And still every designer created something totally to their style. Were her emotions the result of being picked last, the way she was treated during the challenge and on the runway, or a combination?

In almost every team challenge that I've ever seen, the contestants are asked who was the weak link on a losing team, as who was the strongest member on the winning team.

Everyone will create their own scenarios about what happened, based on their own biases. But what can't be denied is that the female team was a disaster in all ways but had they sent down a fantastic collection, all would have been forgiven. As such, they were compared to the mens team + Merline (who struggled with Joseph in another challenge but apparently worked swimmingly well with him here) who collaborated on all designs and were quick to give props to everyone. The women were disjointed, lacked leadership and direction, turned against each other and when the time came, Candice flat out lied when asked about inspiration. Whether or not anything happened in the workroom, it definitely showed in their work, and that's the realest thing to judge.

The Mean Girls already identified their agenda a few weeks back when Lindsay was teamed with Jake and we had innumerable TLs from Candice, Amanda and Kelly about how Jake wasn't doing anything, Lindsay was being stifled, she was doing all the work, etc., the exact same things we heard during this challenge. If Laurie is a shit stirrer, GOOD! There was plenty of shit to be stirred and it turned out she was exactly right about what she warned Ashley about. The best part of the conversation when they were waiting for their critique was when Candice came up with that ridiculous SF story and when she said what they're going to say up there, Laurie shot back "tell the truth." Overall, people should be saddened that this team personified every negative feeling that people have about women in groups: They're catty, non-communicative, clique-ish, hold grudges and are unproductive. You can argue that the workroom scenes were manipulated by the producers but what can't be disputed is that their end product (both sets) displayed the worst characteristics possible. And as Heidi aptly stated, so did their behavior on the runway.

What was so sad and yet fascinating was that Kelly and Candace have crafted visual images of themselves as outsiders yet when the time came, they fell into the cliques, cliches and stereotypes they probably claim to be rebeling against. Very depressing that they reinforced the negative perceptions the media portrays women (or in this case, "girls") in groups as.

I don't know how to quote, but DoginBlue, that stereotype was exactly what I was going for. Those mean girls saw two stereotypes, a fat girl and an African American girl and they were scared of one but knew they could pick on the other. Nothing negative about Laurie who I admired for telling Ashley to be aware that she was probably going to have to defend herself on the runway and why. Nothing gossipy about that at all. In the meantime, the Mean Girls are having a Twitter meltdown.

How is Laurie a backstabbing bitch? Whom did she stab in the back? If anything, she showed tremendous restraint when Amanda tried to shame her into letting her use her scissors when she was working with them. Was Amanda one of those who didn't bring their tools? The Mean Girl dynamic was in full force. The popular girls dogpile on the fat one, Ashley. Laurie they were scared of because I guess they thought she'd go "ghetto" on them, which I would have loved to see.

If Lindsay wanted to reference Hanfu, that's what she would have said. Kimono and Hanfu are different and someone trying for that for Hong Kong would have known the difference. Also, Kimono, Happi and Haori are also different. Sorry for the sensitivity but as a Korean American, I get asked on a regular basis "what's the best Sushi?" And this is in LA.

I went back and re-watched the episode and Lindsay was so stuck on the kimono that she even tried to defend it in the TH. Lindsay strikes me as one of those know-it-alls, who is so arrogant in her opinion, however wrong, that she gets pissy when someone corrects her. She clearly didn't know the definition of kimono as she said it was a jacket style, which is absolutely wrong. But since she thinks Hong Kong and Tokyo are the same places, you shouldn't be surprised. And why is it when females band together against men it's "girl power" but when guys do it against women, it's "misogyny"?

As an Asian American, I was offended by Lindsay's one-size-fits-all Kimono suggestion. Bitch, we don't all look alike, either.

Does the board think that Monday's Hot Topics will feature Hulk Hogan being fired from WWE for saying the "N" word and Whoopi defending him? He was on the show with her.

Jill Scott was once a huge, huge Cosby supporter. After the documents about his drugging women came out, she did a complete reverse and said that she stood by a man she respected only to be disgusted by him. They got away from Apatow but booking Scott suggests the public isn't buying Whoopi's about face.

Holy You-know-what! Jill Scott on Tuesday. ABC is still in full damage control mode to have her on.

This is Whoopi's Golden Globe speech. Somehow, this always rankled me. Her concept about how great those in the entertainment industry are. Years later, listening to it informs her entitled attitude. I went back to watch it because I wanted to remember how much I loved Whoopi at one time. However, it made me understand why I can't stand her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r1iLWVnh6I

Richard, I started out being incensed by the video. Her "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude is repellent. However, by the end, I was sad. I used to love Whoopi. I loved her on talk shows, movies and TV. But it's like a death in the family. I can never watch her again without remembering her condescending and nasty attitude towards the audience and that includes me. RIP Whoopi Goldberg.

I had high hopes for Sherri at one time. Before she was selected to be on the show, she did a few gigs on local LA morning Tv and was good. Not great but could put an opinion across well and did not seem partisan but fair. I remember they were discussing Star Jones and her wedding and she said "I even got tired of hearing about it." I don't know what happened on "The View" but her time on the show was a disgrace. Speaking of Apatow, wasn't Samantha Geimer on (the famous rape-rape comment) and Whoopi was not part of the interview panel? That would have been interesting but I don't think the producers trusted Whoopi. If she went after Geimer, which she probably would have, the level of outrage would have been really huge.

Can this show survive? I mean, the articles have been written for years and years but has this tired show run its course, with or without new hosts? The format has been taken and improved. With an entirely new panel and producers, could they survive on "The View" name? I was watching the show a few weeks back in the lobby of the doctor's office and one man in the waiting area left because he couldn't stand the conversation. Pauline Kael said that "The Women" confirmed men's worst suspicions about what women were alike when they were alone. "The View" seems further evidence.

TLC owes her nothing. She's also become rich off their network. It seems as if they're trying to prolong her shelf life by trying to make her more palatable. At the same time, her kids are entering their most difficult phase so the focus of their specials is definitely being changed. It would be different if she were ambushed by celebrity, but she doesn't just invite it, she seeks it out. For her to complain she's being misrepresented while still taking money from the network that misrepresented her is trying to have her cake and eat it at the same time at it's worst.