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Season 5 Discussion Thread
cardigirl replied to DanaK's topic in All Creatures Great And Small (2021)
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Mariachi Shelly? John Shelly is the name of the supposed innocent man framed for a murder he didn't commit, but why Frankenstein? Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, and Frankenstein is the doctor's name who created the monster. The monster is not named ever. So, who created the monster? (Possibly reading too much into the episode titles.) 🤔
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I thought about this, but she doesn't always have one on. Maybe a character quirk they've decided to give her. No Faith in Second Chances is the title of this episode, and I think we see that played out well with Angie's surprise that everyone is watching her closely because of her history. That she would be angry or hurt by that, I think is character-driven and naive on her part that she has cleared her history with the force. With Will, with Amanda, even with her partner, Ormewood, who probably doesn't want to feel that way, but does. The force is happy to have her back, but they don't want to get burned again. Angie has her second chance, will she get to keep it? Second chance for John, maybe, although he makes it hard to root for him. Second chance for Will to move on with his life with Marion. Second chance for Sunny to have a stable upbringing with Amanda, second chance for Amanda to be a mother. All of these second chances are on the line for next week.
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I did not enjoy this episode as much as the previous ones this season. Not sure why. Too dark and dismal for me, I guess, not enough Betty. It's hard to have sympathy for John, as he comes off as creepy, and I see why Angie was resistant to trying to help him, given what happened the last time she tried to "help" someone. But now that she's onboard, I hope she's able to get the bad guy. Count me as one of those who do not see Will and Marion as long term. I could be wrong, but I think she's here just to mix up the equations all around. Can anyone tell my why Angie wears those little scarves around her neck? It's not a great fashion statement that I can see, so why?
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Season 5 Discussion Thread
cardigirl replied to DanaK's topic in All Creatures Great And Small (2021)
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Season 5 Discussion Thread
cardigirl replied to DanaK's topic in All Creatures Great And Small (2021)
This season has been great, so far. Enjoyed all of the character development, and I will miss Carmody. I fear for him going to London, with all the bombing that is coming, though. 😢 I also suspected rabies from the rats for the ferret and thus for the Land Girl who was bitten. I was happy the show did not go that way (yet). -
I enjoyed this episode too. I love it when the show explores backstories. If they knew the storage locker number, why weren't they moving faster? I hate when shows slow down the movements of the "heroes" just to amp the tension. That just did not feel real to me. Glad to see Betty at the end. What a sweet gesture by Will to give her to Faith to hug. I'd definitely take a hug from Betty. I hope we see another episode with young Evie and Mandy on the force. The show does an amazing job of casting younger versions of the characters. So far, this is one of the best shows on right now.
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I don't ship anyone in the show, I've been burned too many times by hoping for more interactions and the plot never going my way, LOL. But I enjoy this cast so much and the way they can all play off of each other that I hope we get to see much more of Faith and Ormewood's interactions, Will and everybody's interactions, and yes, Angie, and her interactions going forward with anyone. And I hope we get to see much more of the "B" players going forward as they add so much to the show. This is my favorite show at the moment, and I'm just enjoying it all.
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I agree with you. Angie is still in so much pain over all of it. But she won't feel better til she starts to deal with what she chose to do. At the time of her decision to help Crystal, she thought it was clear-cut. Save the girl who had killed the man who had abused Angie. What could go wrong? Angie is also so defensive. I'm sure her mentality is that she doesn't deserve love, and Will proved that to her in spades. It takes a lot of vulnerability to be able to say, "I really screwed up." She's in survival mode all the time right now. I liked the conversation at the end where they talked about missing their best friend, and Angie said something about "I release you, Wilber Trent." It's going to be an interesting dynamic to watch. I don't like or dislike Marion yet, although she is awfully flirty for someone who is still married. (Interesting.) Let's hope that being Will's love interest isn't a path to getting killed. (RIP Cricket.) As for Ormewood, I like how his character is developing. He's friends with Faith, he's protective of her and of Angie, and he gets along with Will, but he's not happy with what Will did. Pretty complex for a side character. And he had such a crush on the CIA agent. Ha! Not as great an episode as the previous one, but Will Trent is still must-see tv for me.
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Yes, she built it while recovering from a physical injury she suffered earlier in the season. It was a symbol to her of the enduring nature of the relationship she and Will were in (or so she thought) at the time. That's why the last episode last season had a montage of their possible life together with children, etc., while she worked on the table. The hopes and dreams of a lifetime relationship were shattered because of her mistake and Will's inability to overlook what she had done. Angie was impulsive and protective of Crystal and thought that taking the blame for the death of Crystal's mother's boyfriend was allowing Crystal to move on. She went into protective mode because no one had protected Angie when she was abused by the same man. It's not rational thinking by any means, but it's understandable in that Angie thinks she's a police detective to help people. I think Angie's arc this season may be one of her realizing how wrong she was. It's too easy that she is back on the force so soon. And I think that's why she's resisting helping the handyman, at least for now. The last time she tried to help out someone, it ended terribly. Should be an interesting season.
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I noticed in this episode that the police side showed up and worked with Will to determine who the killer was by role-playing along with notecards and masks. No one said a thing to Will that was remotely mean or snarky. They all pitched in, even though Ormewood did not like who he was supposed to represent. I don't think they're hating on Will at the moment, at least not out loud.
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In my rewatch of this episode, I wanted to point out how much I loved the dead swan conversation Angie had with Poppy and talking to Princess Kate (the female half of the swan couple, named William and Kate ha ha) while Air Supply's "All Out of Love" played. Genius! And Angie counseling Princess Kate saying she didn't have to mate for life. She could fly away and find a new pond. But Poppy told her the swans couldn't fly because their wings had been clipped. And of course Angie could identify with that. The writing was stellar this episode, and the music choices as well.
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No need to apologize, just it's confusing sometimes to see it spelled differently. Sent me down a rabbit hole to see if the character is spelled that way somewhere in the books, etc. I'm old too. 😉
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Sorry, this is a pet peeve: it's Jamie, not Jaime.
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Poor Nico. To go from being homeless to having a real family and then see it blown apart like it was is very hard on a young person. They're allowed to be angry and also a bit snarky with Will. Has he been providing for them? Did he consider their basic needs (shelter, food, money)? Yes, but he forgot to include them in any of the decisions that led to Will running away to Tennessee (and they did not know where he was until he came back), so trauma was intense for Nico. Spoiled? I disagree. Struggling with the reality that maybe the family is not going to get back together and the disappointment that would be to someone who does not have a family. Left to deal with their feelings quite on their own, with no help from Will, would leave a bitter taste in my mouth, for sure. I loved seeing the police crew work with Angie, and be happy for her to be back. Pulling together for someone they care about is heartwarming. It does seem too easy, and I fear a bigger fall may be coming for her. After all, Ormewood's role in helping her cover up the initial murder has not come out. (As well as not dealing with Amanda's planting evidence on a really bad guy so he went to jail for something he didn't do. I wonder if they'll address it again this season.) Angie is devastated. Getting back to being a detective kept her going after Will turned her in. She thought they were headed for a lifetime together and blinded herself to the time bomb that was Crystal. I agree. I don't think she has dealt with why she did what she did, and I think the show is going to unfold that over the season. So, like anyone would, she's focused on her hurt, and Nico revealed that Will was hurting too, which Angie seemed to consider. (I will say, when my husband blew up our lives, it took me a loooong time to realize he was in pain too, and I'm not half as damaged as Angie.) So maybe part of Angie's journey this season will be toward therapy and forgiveness. Maybe it will be part of Will's journey too. As always, here for the Betty content, but the comedy of the cast keeps me coming back too.
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Really enjoyed the comedy in this episode. Entire cast was on fire! Two thumbs up!
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That is certainly a downside to AI, and as we've seen with other social media and personal computing, it is difficult to control. But, I have to say that personal computers, mobile phones, and digital storage of information have made life easier. It is so convenient to have the ability to make a phone call from wherever I am. I suspect AI will provide similar benefits. Are there risks? Most certainly. But there will be benefits too. I also think she'll remember how Amanda kept her(Sunny) cool during the ride in the trunk, told her how to get out and when to run, and praised her highly for how well she did, in escaping from the kidnapper. That Amanda needs to come out more and hopefully will.
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Well, I see it as a tool, so as a society, we'll have to figure out the best use of AI. We've done such a magnificent job of that with social media. *laughs hysterically* I think AI will change how we live as much as personal computing and the internet has. It's coming, so we better get ready.
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Unpopular opinion maybe, but I did not enjoy this episode as much as the first half. It was cut together rather weirdly, and it seems some of the action ended up on the cutting room floor. Still like Ormwood's character and his demon energy. Ha! That was great. As for Angie using the app, I don't find that too concerning. AI is being used everywhere by EVERYONE, so the show was bringing itself into the 21st century. If I had to start a letter for a situation like that, it would be with a suggestion from AI. I didn't hear her use any of that version in her interview. And to show her flashing back to Crystal's death during the interview shows how she's carrying the guilt and remorse for her mistake. But then I do not know the book Angie and therefore do not hate her as much as some. Guy on ladder was somewhat creepy. I thought he might be a plant from the police department review board checking up on her. I'm glad Will apologized to Faith for not asking for help when he was wrestling with the decision to turn Angie in. Awkward hug/shoulder pat was rather funny. Hope Amanda loosens up a bit. She's been on her own too much, jeezus. I'd run away as soon as I could. Ha ha. And also, HOW OBVIOUS was it that the mayor was corrupt? I mean, she needed a mustache to twirl, she was so obviously crooked. Show can do better than that.
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I don't know about coddling Angie. She did something based on her experience as a survivor of SA. She thought she was helping Crystal, not realizing she was sending Crystal on a killing spree. Should she be a police officer again? In the real world, that wouldn't happen, but they are setting it up for her to get back on the force, as she was not charged with a felony (I think Ormewood mentions that). I meant that dealing with super-entitled idiots is a great way to test her mettle and see whether she's learned anything. As for being mad at Will, people are allowed to be mad at him for disappearing for months and not letting anyone know if he was alive or dead. Amanda possibly knew and allowed him to have his space, but no one else did. I think a little anger at Will for doing that is justified. If you're referring to my comment about Ormewood having something to say to Will about Angie, I don't think that's going soft on Angie. He seems protective of Angie and Faith, and I don't think that's a bad thing at all. We'll see I guess. I enjoy all the characters, and don't carry much hate for anyone in the show, except the new mayor. Ha ha.
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I loved this opening episode for season 3. The way season 2 ended made me so sad/mad. I like Angie and Will, and they have a very complicated history, so her sad "I hoped you'd choose me." just made me cry. I worried about her all during the hiatus. I think having her work security for a very exclusive neighborhood is punishment enough. Ormewood has really stepped up, checking in on Angie and working well with Faith, his parenting skills have really risen to the top. I suspect he will have a clash with Will about Angie at some point in the season. I enjoy Gina Rodrigues and was sad when her last show ended. This show has comedic elements to it, but is much more dramatic than anything I've seen her in. I'm willing to watch to see what the show does with her character. So I guess Will is going to always be a 10 episode season. Booo! I want more.
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I think Nico was mostly mad because Will took Betty with him and they missed Betty the most. No one knew where Will and Betty were, Nico probably grieved greatly for the dog. I would have too.
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I think wedding rings are worn on the right hand in Europe. In Claire's case, when she married Jamie, she was already wearing Frank's ring on her left hand, so Jamie put it on her right. And as to why she still wears Frank's ring, well, she loved him, he was a huge part of her and Brianna's lives, and I think she honors that love by wearing the ring.
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I enjoyed this, I thought the black humor was great. Was kind of hoping for a reveal of the husband being involved somehow. I love Ben Whishaw, and enjoyed his performance. Kiera was good too, but she has an awful lot of teeth. 😜 Are we hoping for a second season?
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I enjoyed this show and am sad that they aren't coming back for another season. It was very sweet and low-key, and since I grew up in the Midwest, it was very familiar to me in many ways. I enjoyed how respectful the show was about life in a small town, agricultural society. These people are not wealthy, except in all that matters, which is love and friendship. Kudos to the writers, actors, and directors.