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The scene where Will is vowing to find out what happened to the young woman, and it was like she was there in the room with him was very moving. I liked the final scene so much, with Will and Angie and Betty and Nico are all having dinner together. My concern is that something terrible is going to happen to destroy this happy group. 😟

Gotcha. So you meant that the Pru wouldn't have an arcade, or some of the clothing stores shown, even in 2003, which is probably true. But it isn't small. It's huge as far as I've experienced. I think of it as a mall, mostly because of the definition I posted above, and your comment confused me. (P.S. I'm not wealthy or elite.) Now, mall discussion is at an end. LOL. Thank you for your reply! Also, to keep discussion tied to show, I did enjoy this episode, maybe not as much as episode 5, which destroyed me, but for the storytelling that was shown. The two young actresses were really good, and even though I was pretty sure of what was going to happen (and did at the end) I wanted to go with them on their journey. I also wanted to warn them to watch out for clickers or infected, and Riley should have really been aware of the dangers even if the mall hadn't been completely stripped bare yet. But when you are young and feeling all the attraction these two were feeling, sometimes you don't listen to the little voice in your head telling you to be careful. A mall was a great place to set this episode, for the opportunity for fun and danger.

Not sure if you're agreeing with me or just throwing this out there. I'm genuinely curious as to why the Pru would not be considered a mall. I think it was mentioned more than once in the discussion about this episode that the mall couldn't be the Pru as that is not a real mall. MINOR MINOR detail, just wondering why someone thinks that. Curious!

It's not? Seems like a mall to me when I go there. What is considered mall? a large retail complex containing a variety of stores and often restaurants and other business establishments housed in a series of connected or adjacent buildings or in a single large building.

I'll continue to watch for William Fichtner alone. Milo is a bonus. I don't see how they can keep the CIA person involved with a criminal aspect going for a long time, that will get tiresome. But I bought the romance and thought the two leads looked lovely together. I'm in for at least a few more episodes. I thought it was exactly that. Milo on a motorcycle. Yum! #shallow. I just enjoyed following along. Will the show descend into outrageous plots and lots more dress up for the cast? Probably, but I'm in for that too.

Or maybe they're borrowing the plot from Philip Marlowe's novel of the same name. Or the famous movie based on the book. 🤪

I think she started out doing a podcast and then kind snaked her way into her current hosting position. The original host for that show was portrayed as somewhat ruthless and not as caring or dedicated to healing as Maggie (of course) so Maggie stepped in when that host was fired. It seems to me that Dr. Jessica has been helping Gary, and if Maggie was a really great therapist, she would see that. I guess her baby hormones are making her unreasonable? Which is not a flattering portrayal of a pregnant working woman. How far we have come. 🤪 I love it when shows pit women against each other, competing for partners and jobs, instead of uplifting each other. UGH.

My ex has Celtics season tickets and with Stub Hub he almost always sells the tickets he can't use. In fact, he sold some for playoff games, because they were going for so much, rather than attend those games in person. Boston is a HUGE sports town. I remember when it was near impossible to get tickets to a Red Sox/Yankees game here in Fenway. The Bruins love is one thing they get right on this show. They seem to have steered away from Tom Brady and the Patriots.

16/18 Virtue and Vice February 20, 2023 I'm very surprised to see no comments yet about this latest episode. I enjoyed it very much, although I knew from the start where Ogden's story was headed. It had all the signature elements of Murdoch that I enjoy, with much of the cast participating. Some humor too. It's difficult to wait for next week. I hope Ogden's stay in jail won't be too horrific. @mjc570 and @Trey I was feeling like the show might be past its prime earlier in this season too, but I've really enjoyed the last several episodes so hang on!

I also enjoyed the guys' storyline this episode so much more than the girls. Maggie is SO annoying with her self-righteous attitude. Gah! I mean, I guess I should feel some sympathy for a very pregnant woman, but I felt none for her and her rising panic that she was losing control of her life. I kind of hope that the actual storyline is that many women who are expecting their first child operate under the assumption that their lives will not be all that disrupted until said child arrives and then they realize they can schedule and plan all they want, but baby may have other ideas. If that's Maggie's story, it could be a good one. LOL I loved how well written the guys' conversation was and while I really doubt a young adult would go to his own parents rather than friends about his first sexual experience, it wasn't a bad scene. and the guys got across the point that he shouldn't worry about it being perfect. Poor Rome and his dad. I'm not looking forward to the Alzheimer's storyline.

I was 31 when I had my second child and remember the gynecologist saying I was one of his oldest pregnant patients. 😒 That was way back in 1983!

That is something I've been wondering about. I guess you could make grain alcohol with corn, but wasn't flour (wheat) suspect is the initial spreading of the fungus? Yet there was bread with Joel and Ellie's meal in Laramie. _____________________________________________________________ Late night musings ... One other thing that I thought about, because I might be a wee bit obsessed with the show, was Maria's rather complicated hairstyle. Seems that would take a lot of time and resources to maintain, and thus didn't fit into the idea of being in a post-apocalyptic time. Minor detail but with the internet going nuts over two production personnel showing up on screen, I thought I'd mention it and see if anyone else was wondering about the same thing.

I really enjoyed this episode, for all of the reasons stated by so many before me. The opening with the older survivors, Ellie and Joel bonding, the beautiful scenery they were walking/riding horses through. This is a gorgeous show, even if it is a post-apocalyptic world. Made me want to move to the Canadian Rockies. But what I loved most was that moment when Joel yelled "Tommy!" and all the emotion that one utterance conveyed. My heart just seized up. Great acting by Pedro throughout the episode. (Please, please go watch The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Pedro is ah-ma-zing in that! In a totally different way.) I, too, hope Joel survives, mostly because I really enjoy seeing Pedro Pascal on my screen. #shallow 🥰

I guess when her boss mentioned that sometimes moms decide to stay home after the baby comes (which is true, btw) and then realized he shouldn't have said that because she could take it as him encouraging her to not come back, I didn't see it as calculated, but I was already annoyed by Maggie, so I probably was inclined to think he was more hapless than calculating. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. Of course, whatever happens, Maggie will not be in the wrong, and all of her friends will come to her rescue.

Sorry, but I disagree with the bolded part of your post. I thought they were being super subtle about it, if he is, indeed, a dick at all. Maggie hates him, but as far as I remember we only have her word for it? Was this the guy responsible for getting rid of her boss? That storyline was also badly handled, and Maggie would have been let go anywhere else in the world. Of course, getting pregnant not long after those events means that even if the station was contemplating replacing her at some point, they can't do it NOW. If this is where the show is ramping up to, a showdown between Maggie and her boss and women's rights, well, not sure I have the patience for it, as the show will likely handle it all weird. And I think most of the time pregnancies on tv shows are shown to be fraught with danger and mishaps. It's done for drama, and not a fair representation of what the majority of women experience when they are pregnant. I could get behind a storyline where Maggie feels that all anyone cares about anymore is the baby, and she's just the mom. THAT happens to all mothers. LOL.

Maggie super bugged me this episode, but DJ Nash seems to have an issue with portraying childbirth and pregnancy as relatively drama free. Remember when the show went crazy on the lactation nurse's ass because she apparently wasn't nice enough to Delilah when she had Charlie? Do people not prep for pregnancy? By that I mean, Maggie just seemed to be suffering through it, rather than actively trying to deal with her morning sickness. It's been a while, and I remember the nausea lasted longer with my second pregnancy, but geez louise, Maggie was manic. If she has hyperemesis gravidarum, then why is she working herself to the bone? Many women who suffer from that end up on bed rest or in the hospital with intravenous feeding. While Gary's therapist gave him good advice about helping Maggie by reminding her she was still herself, I just didn't care for Maggie's reaction to pregnancy. Maybe I've blocked it all out, but I don't remember being pregnant as being miserable 100% of the time. And is her boss really a jerk just pretending to be nice? I don't remember from last season if he was threatening in any way. Other than that, the rest of the show didn't bug as much, except, a food truck would more than likely be in downtown Boston, near businesses. Most food trucks I know charge relatively higher prices than I think homeless people would be willing or able to pay. Not a sound business decision, but logic ain't a part of this show. I like Rome and his father, but will not enjoy the Alzheimer's story, if that is where they are heading. This show. It continues to amuse me with its illogical setups. And not too much mention of Boston this week. 😒

16/17 Ballad of Gentleman Jones February 13, 2023 I enjoyed this episode for all the reasons that I enjoy Murdoch. Lots of humor mixed in with a serious mystery, and a lot of the cast back together. Hooray! Let's hope Watts sticks around, and becomes a main player again. Daniel Maslany is fun to watch. Poor Ogden, chafing under her life. Was the ship Murdoch showed her a model of a yacht he was buying for them?

I'm watching these as my local PBS station is running through the Marple episodes now. I'm not sure why they took such liberties with the plots of Christie's novels, but I agree that the production values are very good, and I enjoy them on the level of enjoying scenic Britain. LOL. I thought the one about Marple's friend thinking she had witnessed a murder on a train going past her train was quite good. The one with Tuppence Beresford was just ridiculous is so many ways. Great cast though.

Not quite. I liked the episode very much, but felt like it was too idyllic. I mean, sure, Frank and Bill were attacked by raiders (we only saw that one attack) and never seemed to get close to being infected by roaming "zombies." The one fight we're shown is when Frank wants to use some of the resources to fix up the shops and paint the houses on their street so it looks nice. Bill still believes that they could run out of supplies, Frank doesn't care. And they had lots and lots of stuff. More than enough for them to have invited Tess and Joel to stay with them. I've wondered why they didn't. Well, Bill never trusted them, I guess. But it sure seems like they offered some value to at least Frank, by giving friendship, strawberry seeds, etc. Joel even lays out what they can offer them when he and Bill are left at the table alone. So maybe the only way to survive is to close yourself off, and not offer help to others. To only focus on that one other person. And when that person is gone, it's time to die.

I think the whole discussion of who has the right to decide whose life is worth more was broached pretty well. Clearly, Kathleen couldn't understand the need for her brother to die, so that Sam might live. Her brother was a good man, a great man, I guess, if we go by what was said about him. (We don't actually get to meet him.) And he was betrayed by someone who loved him, because Henry loved Sam more than he loved Kathleen's brother. Kathleen's brother was killed by FEDRA, clearly a corrupt organization. Kathleen became corrupt in her need for vengence. But her questions about others' actions, the collaborators, and how did they feel now, when they were about to feel the consequences of their actions. All of that was a little murky. What exactly was the need for FEDRA to have informers for? Why were they hunting Kathleen's brother? The resistance was resisting what? This is where the show is more like a video game (to me). No real explanation of anything. Just our two heroes in danger constantly, a semi-defined goal of getting Ellie to someplace where they are working on a cure. Why is there no cooperation between safe zones? Is it impossible to maintain any kind of communication system? Is wireless radio the only way to communicate long distances? Is there agriculture anywhere? Some kind of food production? Pockets of oases where chickens, pigs, cows survived, or is everyone living on 20 year old cans of Chef Boy-ar-dee (which, btw, would contain flour)? Back to who gets to live and who gets to die ... Sam is clearly an innocent. He's young, cute, and adorable. Someone worth caring about. So protect the innocents at all cost? When Joel told Ellie he was sorry she had to go through all of this (i.e., fighting for her life, shooting someone, listening as Joel finished him off), he was mourning her lost innocence. Perhaps Kathleen's brother would have willingly gone to FEDRA, if it would save Sam. Perhaps not. But in a world of limited resources, people start making decisions about how to spread the resources around. When Kathleen said children die all the time, she was baring her grief. Why was Sam's life worth more than her brother's? Joel said earlier in the show, that the only people you fight for are family. Since Sam was not Kathleen's family, she couldn't see why Henry would do what he did. Since Kathleen's brother was not Henry's brother, he could do what he did for his family, Sam. While I was silently cheering when the hoards of infected came up and got rid of the resisters, I thought the basic question of how does one decide who gets the resources to live and who doesn't was a great one. More of a philosophical discussion than I would expect from a show based on a video game. P.S. Comparing this situation to the COVID situation, there was a lot of scary talk on both sides. P.P.S. Apparently children were still being born after the start of the infection. Both Ellie and Sam were younger than the 20 years this infection has been going on. I just find that interesting.

I don't want to say I loved this episode, because it made me so sad, but I LOVED THIS EPISODE. The acting, the scene setting, all of it was excellent. I was on the edge of my seat the entire episode. Loved this episode more than episode three, so much more tragic! The world building that is going on in this show is so great. I'm old and didn't play any video games other than Mario, so I'm surprised that the source material for this show is a video game. Amazing. Big round of applause! (Also glad that Kathleen met her end at the hands of a clicker. Very satisfying.)

I didn't get the sense that he's a jerk, more that his focus was on this case and while yes, he's interested in Margaret, he's also keenly aware of needing to resolve the case. Plus, technology. LOL. At the end, Margaret didn't say yes right away, because she's playing the game of not being over eager. You could tell by her smile she was not shutting him down, merely letting him know he was going to have to work for it.

Is it possible there are only 14 episodes in this first season? ☹️

I agree with you about Margaret's continued growth. I enjoy what we've seen so far and want more. However, I think Todd's character development isn't stalled. He genuinely wished Susan the best with her new fiance, and you could tell that it was a new feeling for him. He's been enjoying working with his mother, and she's come to appreciate him and his results. I'm enjoying watching that relationship grow. I think it was intimated in a previous episode that the children's father died young (?) and she had to support them. I think that's to explain her concern with appearances and having successful children. Margaret seems to be loosening up a bit on what constitutes success. Although, I am worried about her daughter and the path the show has set her on. Is the show really not back until March?