Anne Thrax

No. Tiffany's mother's only interest is in how much money Tiffany brings in. Because her mother looks at the money Tiffany earns as her own property. Kinda like Mama Dee, except Tiff's mom is exploiting her child instead of a man. We all heard how the mother has fucked with Tiffany's head her whole life, telling her only child how worthless she is unless she's bringing in the highest grades and the biggest money. That's why Tiffany is sweating breaking the news to Mommy Dearest. Once her mother knows the cash cow is saying no to money that she could be earning, Tiffany is going to get browbeat like there's no tomorrow how ungrateful and lazy she is every time she sees her mother.

Tiffanty -- just tell them that Mommy is not going to spend any more time with you than she does now. That one day a week will be used to do what she said in a previous episode -- getting her hair and nails done, waxing appointments, lunch with the girls, pick up her daughters from school and drop them off with the nanny. She even said herself that her goal is to be a lady who lunches - one day a week.

Jeremy receives a military pension - he was a 20 year man in the Air Force. Nothing slimy about that.

I hope to never again see/hear Cort urging his daughter to co-sign his contempt for Kameron. Cort speaks to their kid as if she and Cort are the brains of the outfit and they just tolerate Kameron's presence. I'd totally be up in his shit over it if it was me. I mean, I know she does go a bit over the top emotionally over silly stuff, but Cort picked her and she does have the right to know what's going on with the sale of their property.

For me, it was everything to hear Stephanie say: "I think Darren should stick to hair dressing instead of shaman-ing because he's real good at extensions." Can we get an Amen?

So why give a party on a day when you have to get up early the next day and be a doctor? People don't plan parties for adults on weekdays because most of us have to get up during the week and be at our best for our jobs. That's why Tiffany is considered socially awkward -- because she doesn't see anyone but herself when she's supposed to be in hostess mode and thinking about making her guests comfortable. Plus she thinks her guests shouldn't be offended when she makes rules for them like "no fighting" (really??) and "everyone has to leave by 10:30".

Covered above.

I think it was a kind of boring episode too, but I think the shows were struggling pretty bad back then at the height of Covid to think of things they could do that wouldn't expose them to the public. The houseboat I think filled the bill for a girls trip idea. I have to agree too that Brandi is just not that funny anymore with her over the top crude humor. Once or twice maybe I can find it chuckle worthy, but she's done it too often now -- reaching with that blow-up doll to try to be the life of the party and it just fell flat.

Overall I'm finding TIffany Moon pretty shallow and so full of baloney with her routine of I'm a physician and saving the world but all I truly want is to be a mommy. And she is so transparent. She thinks she's convincing everyone of her dreams of playing supermom to her little children but then her mask slips when she gleefully tells everyone her goal in life is to be "a lady who lunches". I mean, she started talking about "how much she could get done" in that one day, like getting her hair done, picking up her kids that day, maybe make a waxing appointment, hang out with girlfriends!! Seems obvious she really just wants a day of the week for herself - not a word about plans for fun things she'd do with her kids (besides being the one to bring them home from kindergarten). Also, I think it pretty ironic that Tiffany defends her stance that rules for parties make people feel secure and welcome, and then scoffs at the idea that she might be the better for consulting an etiquette book once or twice in her life.

So well said and I couldn't agree more.

This reminds me of the comment she made on the bus to Grapeville or whatever it was called. Tiffany couldn't join in the pole dancing but instead of just gracefully bowing out made a rude and condescending comment something like, "Where would I have learned to pole dance for money" as if the others were all pole dancing strippers in their earlier years. I mean, she could have just laughed and hollered like everyone else, but she acted superior instead. Way to gain friends.

Get a clue Tiffany - when people politely decline the opportunity to try the unorthodox foods you offer, they will rebel if you force it on them in a sneaky, underhanded way. Tiffany might figure out how to have a good time if she could just get out of her own way. All that time spent hitting the books and doing extra credit projects for the highest grades in the universe didn't teach her shit about social graces, or the philosophy behind American hosting customs (i.e., make your guests feel welcome and comfortable at all times). I guess that part of her education was badly neglected if not ignored completely, so poor Tiffany just doesn't get it. She's so compulsive about order and control that her parties have rules to make sure the hostess is happy. The guests better know to just suck it up. Tiffany says she wants to make friends, but then sneers at them when chicken feet and crickets turn them off and by the way, I'll want you all to leave promptly when it gets to be my bedtime. (Even though Kam is silly and goes to absurd extremes, in this case I don't blame Kam for setting the alarm and leaving on the dot.)

I noticed Tiffany was pretty stingy with the praise of her children's academic achievements (a ho-hum "that's pretty good") while not actually being up to speed about the level they were performing at. A Tiger Mom would be doing the teaching herself. Where are the ballet lessons, where are the piano or violin lessons? I'm sure the girls will be pushed into that soon enough if Tiffany is to keep her Tiger Mom pride intact. Tiffany knows why she can't stop -- she's beholden to her mother and father who expect her to work her hardest her whole life to make as much money as she can because they see it as her duty to support them when they decide to retire. It won't matter that they have their own house, their own money and live comfortably. They expect her bend to their every demand because she owes them for giving her life. I noticed how she said it was "because they brought me here and gave up a good life in China". Baloney. If they had the world by the ass living in China, they'd have stayed there. I will never understand parents who expect repayment from their children in the form of obeying all parental demands their whole lives for simply having brought them into the world.

Oh man! Awkward. That's how I felt watching Kary talking to Sofia. During their conversation when Kary approaches the subject of her divorce, Sofia shuts it down with such finality I get the feeling that Kary has beat the dead horse of her divorce to her kids ad nauseum. I noticed that both her daughters seem tentative, reserved and decidedly unemotional around Kary, as if they can barely tolerate her. I sense an undercurrent that her daughters aren't impressed by her attentive mother routine.

D'Andra has referred to him as her brother and her step-brother. She told us (don't remember which episode) that after her parents divorced, her father married again and they adopted a little boy who is D'Andra's what? Half brother, I guess?

Exactly what I was thinking. It's one thing to encourage your children, but it's another to warp reality for their consumption. Tiffany isn't Wonder Woman -- she's a well educated woman who's got a paycheck job as an anesthesiologist in a hospital. She's not doing the healing, she's anesthetizing the patient for someone else to do the healing. But she presents herself to her children as if she's saving the fucking world every day. I'm assuming the hospital pays her by paycheck which means she doesn't have to hustle up her own business, manage her own staff or see to the billing and collection like most business people. She does a job that requires an MD degree but demands far less hours than a practicing physician who performs procedures, and then has office hours for treating patients. But to listen to Tiffany, she's performing the impossible while suffering not being there to tuck her babies in at night. She lives for the regard and admiration she gets from society, and probably most importantly, from her parents. If she really and truly longed to be the one to tuck her girls in, she'd be doing it. I mean, whose decision was it to take this second job, Tiffany? I'm positive your girls would be happier living in a smaller house and having a mother who only worked 9-5. Her daughters haven't said much on camera so far, but what we have heard is that they want mommy home more.

Yes - she said she's 45 now. Not far off from when perimenopause kicks in, although I heard that women on birth control will experience that later than women who aren't. But luckily there's hormone replacement therapy - something that's available to both of them.

I figured. I was just amused by the way you stated it.

Odd couple indeed. I think Rick makes a very good living but is not rich by any means. And I believe Kelly would make it her business to know all about his financial status. Observing her talking about him, I think she just really digs the guy.

Absolutely right. In this country when someone's trying to accuse you of something, you have the right to remain silent.

I heard her say her mother bought an 18-wheeler. Old rigs are surprisingly easy to come by.

Oh no, not your late 60s!! Life is over by then isn't it?

Well said, thank you!

Gina talking about making her victim statement in court made me think about her statement that Matt turned down the plea deal. That usually means he wants to go to trial. I'm not sure where I heard it, but that the plea deal included 4 year jail term. That's a lot, even in a DV case, so it made me wonder what it was that Matt was accused of doing during that attack on Gina. The DA wouldn't be recommending a 4-yr sentence for pushing or open handed slapping or even preventing her from leaving. Something more serious went on there. I'm talking bad, like choking her out or spousal rape. Statistics show that the ones who choke out their spouses are exponentially more likely to kill in that situation. I'll be VERY interested to know how that comes out.

I could not agree more. And her facial expressions listening to the others in Pt.2 were everything!