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My 18 year old grandson, who just graduated from high school, had been working at QT (gas station/quick trip store) for the past year. He was just promoted to a shift manager making $47,000.00 a year! Big difference, Grandson ToStandOn has no criminal record. I believe Jennifer has sun damage, but sun damage will not cause the skin to sag like that. Sun damage is more deep crevices, spots in skin. I live in the Phoenix area & will not walk out of the house without 50 plus sunscreen. Her throat reminds me more of like Mama June. If she had not had skin surgery, her neck would sag.

I don't understand with all of that property, why they don't add on to their existing house.

I thought Jenny was a few years older. I don't know if she lost a lot of weight but that wrinkly skin hanging from her chin is not normal for 60 years old. I am not far behind her in age & know several women her age who do not have saggy chin just because they're over 50. She definitely needs to do something with her hair. I'm sure she believes long blonde hair makes her look young but it's actually aging her. I thought her friends were spot on with their reactions. She would not listen to any common sense though. And, did the guy from India tell his friends that he was not going to tell his family that he & Jenny got married? Boy, Poul sure lost his shit at not being able to haul all 5 crates! Mother Poul must be use to it because she didn't even react.

She wasn't even looking at the items, just yanking them off of the rack, 'Grams will wear this to church this is for my cousin, this is for my cousins friend, everyone wants a gift from the US!!' I honestly thought Evelin was in her 40's, her face is very rough &cold I receive those foreign FB requests on a daily basis. I wonder how many fake requests he sent before landing a bite. I know someone who accepted a foreign request (male accepting 'female's request). Stupidly believed the sob story of the sick relative having an American check for $100,000.00 that they cannot cash, can I please deposit it into your account, you can keep $10,000.00 for your trouble. Next thing he knew, he was wiped out. When Jenny went to a financial advisor, I was expecting her to have a half million in her account, especially living in Palm Springs (then heard she works in one of the resorts). I'm surprised she was not counseled by the advisor. My uncle lives in the retirement community, Sun City. I have gone to a couple of banks in the area & they have signs posted stating any withdrawal over $5000.00 will require counseling to make sure there is no scam involved. I wonder if the Mormon family is aware of how much money that fool son of theirs has lost.

I'm not familiar with him so Googled him... He obviously loves the reality spot light too

I feel horrible for the kids, regardless of their ages. It's very painful to watch a loved one go down this path. It is totally out of their control. They can do all of the interventions they want but nothing will work until June is ready to admit she has a problem... Which is more than Gino. When my husband went into treatment, they said up front 'if you are here for her, you may as well leave right now, you need to want help for yourself, not to please another person.' They then told me that I need to get help for myself, otherwise every relationship I get into will be the same. June's sister needs to get it out of her head that she can save June by simply getting her away from Gino. She claims that's how she saved her from Gummy Bear, but all June did was move to another sick relationship. And Jennifer just needs to go away. Who is she to make demands. In the eyes of the law, she is nothing more than a baby sitter. We had to get legal forms giving me authority to get my step daughter medical care, talk to schools, etc. And my husband had full legal custody.

It just really angers me that WE is still tagging this as 'Dating Abuse'. As someone who was physically abused in a dating relationship then verbally threatened if I tell anyone or try to leave the relationship, I find this offensive. I'm not saying that Gino has not cheated on June. Pumpkin even said in the show, which I'm now watching, that 'mama is afraid to be away from Gino because she can't monitor him.'. Not because she's afraid of him & what he would do to get if she tries to leave. This is more of an obsessive relationship, totally different. I also do not agree that Gino got June hooked on drugs. I got involved with drugs in my 20's. I have no one to blame but myself. No one held me down & forced the straw up my nose. Mr. ToStandOn is a recovering alcoholic. He has been sober for over 30 years. He went through a 30 day in patient treatment program. One of the very first things we learned is if you want help, you need to take responsibility for your own actions and not blame others for choices you have made. I'm sure Gino did drugs but June made the choice to do them herself. Oh, now Jennifer says she has always thought Gino was a druggie. Wasn't she singing Gino praises awhile back. Everything is someone else's fault... It was Sugar Bears fault now it's Gino's fault. They need to look at the real common denominator... June.

Hope you know I was being sarcastic. I have always agreed with what you have said about Gino being rescripted as the 'bad guy'. I really had to laugh when they claimed it stemmed from his "jail time" after being picked up for missing a couple of hours of community service. They made it sound as if he were sentenced to years in a hard core federal penitentiary instead of a local jail for a day or so. I only have watched a short bit of last night's show. That niece sure is enjoying the spotlight. Seems like she has a hard time containing her grin.

So, everything we've been watching is one big lie? According to Pumpkin, Gino is a good guy, he's a father figure to them, he's never been abusive to June, all of this, including the drug charges, have been blown out of proportion. https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/mama-junes-daughter-lauryn-pumpkin-shannon-says-reality-star-moms-drug-arrest-is-blown-out-of-proportion I also thought the whole "intervention" took place before the drug arrest? https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/honey-boo-boo-tells-mama-june-shannon-shes-scared-to-live-with-her-after-drug-arrest.amp

Watching the episode from last week. The paramedics said, based on her having a stroke before, that June could possibly be having mini strokes. Pumpkin goes to the camera and says "the paramedics literally said she is having mini strokes." That's not at all what they said. From what I just heard, Gino was telling her to go to the hospital, he was not stopping her.

JMO, I don't see that happening. Alana likes being in the spot light too much. If she doesn't get her big 'Hollywood Break', she'll be satisfied to continue with reality TV. I do agree, though, based on what we're being shown, Pumpkin & her husband are much better caretakers for Alana than Gummy Bear & Jennifer. An added bonus, Alana can become the pageant coach for Pumpkins baby & teach her the tag line that got Honey Boo Boo famous, "I'll holler for a dollar!".

Only difference is in the States, unless Nicole hooks up with a Dugger, he has no good excuse to avoid physical contact with her. He'll have to "pay" for the money! Is Molly's brother going to be our next victim? No, Molly, your brother's situation is not the same as yours. He did not go on vacation & believe the line of shit talk from bartender used to gain larger tits..I mean tips... and drag her home to his two minor kids. There also does not seem to be a 20 year age gap.

Yes! After I saw my post, realized I had given her a new name. I knew someone with the name Ashley who Nicole reminds me of. Thank you, Spike!

The bile rises into my throat whenever Nicole is spewing her lies. Love Stepdad Nicole for being so upfront and the only one willing to confront her. Mother Nicole feeds into her fantasies. Loved when Stepdad Nicole said "you've been in vacation since you get back from Morocco!". That girl needs some intervention. Pao is the most selfish, self centered bitch. If she wants the Latin culture so badly, why did she even come here. It's perfectly fine for "Roosss" to be stressed & unhappy as long as she's not. He is a wimpy fool. I cannot believe Larissa... she says she's not a blow up doll but she is the one using sex to get what she wants from Col-Tee. I don't know how many lip injections she's had at this point but she's already getting the "Joker Grin". I have never seen that couple in the second part before, the one with the baby & the "I need to be happy" guy who quit his job right after having a baby & moved himself, wife and baby in with his parents. She is from Brazil too but she does not talk in that strange "sing songy" voice Larrisa does with the odd emphasis on consonants.

I wasn't saying Senior was not punch worthy, lol! Most people at this age have learned how to control that instinct. It must happen quite often because Senior did not even flinch. You are right and if this is the case, Justin needs serious help. He has no control over his emotions, the punching, crying, etc. He needs much more help than Dr Paradise or Lola are capable of giving. Actually, all 3 need serious help.

All 3 give me the heebee jeebies. They remind me of someone you'd see on Criminal Minds. Watching this episode today, I just had the feeling that they hate women. I am just shocked that some woman found anything attractive in the hooved Jr., especially his hair! Dr Now has brought up his poor hygiene more than once. What's really scary is this woman has a child! The Hobby shop looked like it was attached to a house. Wonder if dad built on so Justin did not have to travel so far. Justin is llike an 8 year old. What 30 year old man punches his dad because he doesn't like what he's saying to him. He looked giddy like a child would look playing with that remote controlled truck. I hope this is the last we see of this disgusting, dysfunctional family.

I somehow missed years ago that Kelly was physically messing around with Dylan while involved with Brandon! I always thought the 'trip around the world' was brought on by his Little House on the Prairie dream. Makes me wonder why Brandon didn't throw that in her face after he messed around with the Beverly Beat red haired big tooth gal & Kelly acting so highly moral.

I am still trying to figure out why Libby & Ahhh-Dray were looking at second hand toddler clothes & shoes instead of newborn/infant.

Tried to add this to my above post & it wouldn't let me: As a victim of date rape when I was 18, which resulted in a pregnancy & the jerk following me & physically abusing me, I totally agree

I thought he was talking in tongues, lol!

I try my hardest not to look at Gino for too long but he looks heavier to me too I do not know who's idea this was to label this behavior as 'dating abuse ', I'm sure it was done to draw sympathy for June to retain viewers. First of all, these two are not dating... They are living together. It is definitely a dysfunctional relationship, which is common when there is drug or alcohol abuse. I do not believe he is physically abusing her. He is most definitely verbally abusive and sending her mixed messages. He yells at her 'get away from me, bitch 'then leans across and gives her a kiss. They are both obviously loaded on drugs, which again, I cannot blame Gino for. If he was doing them & June started along with him on her own will, unless he's holding her down & forcing the drugs on her. I think a lot of her personality changed when she lost weight. After watching Jennifer wobble around the past couple of weeks, face covered with huge sunglasses (which I think she borrowed from Alana when she was doing her Greta Garbo imitation) I was expecting her to appear looking gorgeous. Sorry, except for maybe 100 lbs weight loss, her hair styled & professional make up, she didn't look much different. That Gina was going way over board with the compliments. And Gummy Bear up there modeling... Just gross!

Speaking of dressing frumpy... Just watched Kelly's Seventeen cover episode. She dresses like a frumpy bag lady. Her dresses are long and shapeless. At first I thought maybe she was pregnant in real life but one scene has her playing pool with Brandon and Steve & she's wearing old lady high waist baggy jeans. Val, Donna and Claire all dressed in cute, age appropriate outfits.

So glad you are OK, Natalie68. It's terrifying when something comes flying at you & there is no way for you to avoid it. They were a great breath of fresh air after last week. I started drawing my own conclusion at the beginning that they were going to fail & was so impressed by their progress. This visual had me laughing, my dogs looked at me and walked to the other side of the room. Could almost see them shaking their heads This reminded me of a time several years ago when this group I belong to was having a benefit carnival. I had spent the whole night blowing up balloons before realizing I need to transport them. I ran up & bought 5 huge Rubbermaid trash barrels & filled them with balloons, snapped the tops on & put in the back of the truck. The tops blew off on the freeway & balloons were flying everywhere! We have a friend named Vianny. We all say "V-Annie", everyone pronounced hers as "VanE". In addition to clothes, they both wore shoes too!

As someone who had a piece of wood fly off a truck and slam into my windshield on the freeway, I agree. After it bounced off of my windshield, it began bouncing around the freeway, people were swerving to avoid it. This was before cell phones. I was so proud of these 2! Without WLS, Viany lost a lot of weight. I cannot wait to see a follow up on them.

I completely agree with you. If you go by Jewish Law, Onn-dre-Ahh would not be Jewish since her mother was not, therefore, her baby would not be Jewish. Some of the more conservative branches of Judaism have begun to recognized children of non Jewish moms as being "Jewish" if they were active in the temple, which we never saw her doing. I, too, am a product of a mixed marriage... mom Christian, Dad Jewish. We were raised with Christian beliefs but my dad remarried an Orthodox woman when I was 13. Both religions became a very big part of our lives. For Onn-Dre-Ahh to do Friday night Shabbat that one episode shocked me... perfect Hebrew memorized! Never heard of her going to Hebrew school. This whole storyline was conceived to keep her character relevant. IMO, this is something she & Jessie should have discussed before the baby was born. And as someone above said, Jessie running to Dylan for a place to stay, doesn't anyone who becomes involved in "the gang's lives" have any friends of their own?