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Do you know if YouTube have some history documentary about Dunkirk? Never heard of Dunkirk before seeing the trailer now I watch the History Channel was still the History Channel

Do you have the link to the reddit writer explanation of a goat?

This, he is entitle. His mother did something that deeply affected him. I can understand why Rebecca did what she did but also understand why Randall is hurt

I agree with Stephen Fischback and others that said that Ken was the Tasha, Hannah was the Spencer who thought she played the best game out of everyone while completely misreading the jury and Adam was the less finesses version of Jeremy. Jeremy was smooth, while Adam was messy. ETA: Is Outwit the strategic part of the game. Outplay is the physical part of the game the game while Outlast is just getting to the end?

Well they didn't play the exact same game. He played a much better social game than Hannah which is part of Survivor. I believe it is the Outwit part of the Outwit, Outplay and Outlast saying. He also won an immunity challenge and found idols, while Hannah had none of those two so he Outplay her there Hannah mess up with Zeke, didn't talk with Jay after the Michaela vote (Jay's interview). Made the dumb mistake of calling Sunday the goat to her face. Did she even talk to Taylor? And Adam Outwit her b/c he showed the jury his hands while Hannah claim she was the Kingpin behind the scene. Also she keep David in the game while Adam was trying to get rid of Jay and David since finale 7, the jury knew that. Being a Kingpin behind the scene (not to mention I though it was completely ridiculous for Hannah to say she was) where no one saw what you did don't get you the win, if that was the case Fishback would have won. There are enough difference between Adam and Hannah to claim the played the same game. They didn't. No one ever plays the exact same game and if a juror think two finalist did that they don't deserve to be on jury.

No, they will stayed as long as they keep making Disney, Fox and WB money. These franchises is the only thing that seem to keep these big studios afloat, while everything else, the audience seems to reject. The only other thing the industry has is cartoons (which Mickey Mouse is the King of) and Leonardo DiCaprio, I think most of his films have cross the 100 million dollars mark.

If Emma Watson was in La La Land instead of Emma Stone oscar nominated actress, she wouldn't have gotten award attention for the simple fact that imo she cannot act.

I think Tom Hanks, no matter how good he is is one of those actors that fall out of favors with the industry awards people, while people like Meryl Streep makes it in everytime she has a role that they deem worthy.

That argument wouldn't have work b/c one when she flip on Zeke she went to a group that Adam was a part of. Adam talk to everyone and strategist with everyone. The people on the jury knows for example why Will and Jay went home because Adam insisted on that when Hannah was like but Will was loyal to me. Trying to keep a flipper around when this cast didn't like flippers. With Jay, she and David was trying to keep him and vote out Bret before him until Adam said absolutely not and Jay knew that. Jessica said her core group was Adam, Ken and David after the merge plus when they went the drawing rock tribal, Hannah freak out and said lets vote out Will before that TC started. One of the many according to Jessica's jury speak. If she tried to say that she was the reason why Adam is still in the game, you know David and Jessica were thinking, she came to joined us and why would we ever think of getting rid of an allied, number when we were trying to get rid of people in Zeke's group? Since Adam and Bret had a side deal where they protected each other while being on opposite side, that argument wouldn't have work with him either. The only decision that Adam was left out of was the Mari vote, he was on the right side of every vote except two. That just one vote different than Hannah. And that one vote different was look at as a positive b/c that was a vote to vote out David. That argument might have work if the jurors didn't know a few things, Adam wasn't part of every conversation and the Jury didn't see him as one of the threats that was left.

I wonder how confident and articulate Hannah really was at the FTC, we only saw 15 minutes of a 3+ hours FTC. Thinking about it, that Michelle questions wasn't really a compliment to her game, since Ken was also at the right side of the votes but one and Adam was at the right side of votes except those 2 time. And one of that time was when he didn't vote out Bret. You knew the jury loves that.

I don't think he acting style is like Meryl at all, I'm talking about the industry nominating her for awards if she anywhere near a film with award contention or as some people like to call Oscar bait. Her first Academy Award nomination was in 2011, her fourth was in 2016

I can say he won without the story because I watch the jury speak videos where the jury and that was before they went to the FTC. One doesn't have to play a great game, jut a better one than the other finalist. One is having a better social game which was he had compare to Hannah and Ken. One who ignore one potential juror in Jay who could rallied two other juror against her. Didn't handle things correctly with Zeke and Sunday when voting them out. That five voted against her right there and add Bret there six voted against her. Lost the game before the finale three was set. And Ken was someone who rant and ramble about humility, honesty and got on people nerves. Put them to test when they wanted to talk strategy with them. He didn't need a poker face since he was blunt with people "yeah I'm voting you out" He was smart to read the room and adapted his game to take the target off his back after he went out too strong Used his advantage smartly, positive toward jury management. Played to the jury expectation during Tribal Council Voted out Figgy, "saved" Hannah, insisted that Will go, that a positive for him since the Jury hate flippers according to Jessica. Insisted that Jay goes when Hannah and David was going to take Jay bait and vote Bret out instead of him. Made sure he let them know that Sunday and Bret wasn't his idea, played his idol at the time when Ken and Hannah was stupid enough to vote out Bret instead of David, positive for him and insure that no one would vote for Ken and Hannah if they made it to the finale 3. We have to remember that we are seeing only 45 minutes 13 edited episodes when these people were there for 39. Jurors were talking about the big move that Adam made, some of them fail and some of them succeed, in their jury speak videos. Which again was taped before the FTC.

He told Ken according to an interview at the finale 4, Ken played for his daughter and he was playing with his mom. I don't see what so evil about that but its in bad taste. Beside, its not a good strategy, it cause people to vote you out if one knows.

Than I would call you a bad jury member and a bad survivor contestant if you voted for someone because a sob story. You should be like other survivor juror who gleefully not voted or voted against someone with a sob story. No one cares about a sob story if one didn't play a good game hence why Ken sob story receive no vote. Adam would not have receive any vote sitting next to Jay or David. Hannah base on some interviews had a crap social game (though according to Hannah, she was great with the social aspect) and no one saw her allege Kingpin game. If no one saw what you did and you wait to tell and not show at the FTC? You played a bad game

Ken is overrated and needed to never come back on Survivor. I don't need him and his not understanding what the game of Survivor is to be on this show again.

So one is only ruthless is they talk about an illness and wins. Three people talk about illnesses, either their mom or themselves went through but only one is getting the ruthless, tacky, selfish accusation.

Hannah say she had a strong bond with people in the game but others in their interviews are saying differently so should I believe the person who misread the jury? The different is that Adam didn't take credit for the Bret vote, he voted differently the jury saw that. It was her idea to vote out Sunday, David on the jury could/might have told people that and she mess up with what she told Sunday. At the final 5 council, Adam played his idol, Bret knew that Hannah knew and was telling Ken and David about it. Should could have not told David and Ken vote out Adam, Adam used his idol David goes home and not lose Ken trust. Losing Ken trust didn't matter since its the final 5. That three big mistake right there that differentiated her game from Adam. Those move count as a negative, no matter how much sense it made to her it was bad for her game since it would never net her a win. And don't say I was responsible for every single one of you being there when you were in an alliance with Zeke and than David. The jury knows the Kingpin statement is a lie. And the only Kingpin move you made was taking out Bret and Sunday, those aren't big move those are move you make to maybe take you to the finals, not something to brag about at the FTC. Plus she mess up when she flip on Zeke, they had a majority. She didn't have to go and join Adam, David, Jessica and Ken group, a group of 4 when she was in a group of 6. Another negative to her social games, not bothering with Jay after the Michaela vote, that a potential jury member. She needed his vote and Jay is tight with Jury members Michelle and Taylor. Thinking about it, that six (Jay, Taylor, Michelle, Zeke, Sunday, Bret) voted right there she lost, so I don't know why she thought she had a chance of winning going to the FTC. This is the finale 3 with someone that you were told was a big threat, not the Finale 2 with Hannah and Ken.

Well the social part is the biggest part of Survivor, if they had bigger social game than Hannah than they play a better game than Hannah. Like I said if you can't get the social game right than strategy mean next to nothing in Survivor. David was neurotic but he was able to bond with people. Hannah couldn't, Ken who isn't neurotic couldn't. That probably why this cast look at them as the biggest goats to ever goat. And if your biggest claim to playing the games is being the Kingpin while Zeke and David are there, than you have no case She might have gotten Sunday vote if she didn't tell Sunday that Sunday was a goat and I need to get rid of you b/c I want to take that goat place. She might have gotten Zekes vote if she didn't screw that up socially when Zeke was voted off.

Adam games was a mess b/c he made a dumb mistake with Taylor but after that, he flew under the radar with the people there so I don't think it was much of a mess. Watching the first episode, who would have known paranoid, messy David would have become the Kingpin of this season. Its funny that David, Jay and Adam games were messy at one point but I wanted them to be in the final 3 together because they played hard.

If we go on by Jessica exit interview in Parade, flippers were never going to win, that why she didn't flip when and went to the jury by drawing the wrong rock. The reason why people were voting for Zeke and Hannah at the TC was b/c the flip and flippers get no respect this season. Well any season really since Spencer got zero votes and Kass was hated. Hannah needed to adapt and be shown as cutthroat and play for the win, if she lost oh well at least she played for the win instead of playing for runner-up. If she wasn't going to cutthroat by getting rid of Jay, David and Adam... she should have insure she drag Will there with her to the FTC with Ken. Who knows who wins in that one, not Will since the reason they voted him off was b/c he was a flippers that couldn't be trusted. Maybe Ken wins, but he had no social game and look as a goat. All she had to do was bring two people with her that the jury respect or like less than her.

At the end of the day, Hannah was always playing for second or third place when she didn't take out David, Jay and Adam out. She just didn't know it but like Adam said to Jay and David, coming in second to sixth place is the same thing, he was playing for the win and that why they needed to go. And he had a good social game and understood how to play to the jury. The two most important part of survivor, social games and jury management, the other stuff means shit once one get to the FTC.

Adam won before he talk about his mom, I watch the jury speak videos where they all talk about who they were going to vote before the FTC. Contestant have lost at the FTC with as much a compelling sob story as Adam and yet no one voted to gave a million dollars. If people don't respect your game they won't vote for you. If you say you were the kingpin and no one saw that, it doesn't matter if you explain it well, they won't believe you. Especially when the two kingpin was sitting in the jury. You are not the kingpin with David and Zeke are there. If you see the jury being dumbfounded that Sunday was voted out, don't try to make it worse for yourself by voting out Bret before David. If you see the jury nodding along with Adam when he call the Bret and Sunday move dumb, don't try to defend it, go another way, admit it was a mistake and try to BS your way into how it was a growing experience maybe she might have gotten some votes. Jury love that, instead of my game was flawless, I'm the real Kingpin and the version of I'm a real boy. If one doesn't know that they have to play to the jury than the deserve to lose, simple as that. No one wins survivor because of sob story, that a disservice to the people on the jury. Jeremy didn't win b/c of a sob story. And Ken would have gotten a vote b/c he had a sob story too.

Telling Ken about his mom on day 38 was him being ruthless? The edit this season had nothing to do with his mom illness since outside of confessional, which the show showed a lot of, he didn't talk about it with his competitors outside of Jay, who was also talking about his mom illness where he doesn't know if she's going to die and Ken which we only know about because of exit interviews. Hannah didn't play a good game, strategy mean shit if you don't have a good social games, which Jay said Hannah wouldn't talk to him after the Michaela vote and the strategy that people do not credit David and Zeke for were dumb ones like Bret and Sunday and you proudly defend those decision completely misreading the room. She didn't deserve a vote, FTC performance means shit and we only got 15 minutes of an FTC that lasted more than 3 hours. Ken talk about doing this for his daughter all the time, Jay talks about his mom. There were probably more sobs stories talk about, we just didn't see it b/c that not the story the editors wanted to tell.