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I was turn off by the Passengers film back in the summer when I first read the synopsis.

I don't think Ryan Reynolds has made it just because he has one hit since the Proposal. That why he's so thirsty for Awards recognition from the industry. I think he knows that people outside of Hollywood doesn't care about him outside of deadpool so he wants that Golden Globes winner tag. I wonder if the general audience will still care about Jennifer Lawrence outside of The Hunger Games franchise. Whatever the case, I think the industry see her as the young Meryl Streep.

Did the survivor subforum disappear for anyone else?

One thing I like about this season is that the way it was edited. They show everybody flaws and blunders. All three of the people who were most likely to win (Jay, David, and Adam) were shown as flawed players. I wish Jay, David and Adam were in the finale three. Jay could have talk about his mom illness, Adam could have talk about his mom illness yet I think David would have still won in that scenario.

I realize that I was talking to much about Hannah in Jay's tread so I move the discussion to Hannah's

Yeah Ken might have gotten two votes base on the jury speak videos. They had no respect for Hannah's game at all. They left a lot out, like Jessica recounting the Zeke vs David battle at TC. They went in to vote for Zeke but right as they are walking in there she told Jessica to vote for someone else (I think Will). And she did that often Jessica claims.

Another one of Hannah mistake during the FTC, she claim/imply that she was the kingpin. Not with Zeke and David sitting in the jury. She might have well have call the jury dumb and delusional when every person there was calling both Zeke and David the mastermind at one point during those 39 days. Also, getting rid of Sunday and Jay at 7 and 6 fine. She had the perfect no blood on her hand excuse to get rid of David at five. Adam mistakenly told her about the idol. Her mistake, ran and tell that to David and Ken. Let Bret and Adam vote out David, while you, David and Ken vote out Adam like the original plan. Adam played his idol and Ken is non the wiser. Get rid of Adam at 4, finale 3 with Ken who would get a vote from Jessica and Bret who did nothing wasn't going to win. Hannah would have won if she was sitting next to Ken and Bret.

Listen even if I were a Parvati and I was on the Jury, I wouldn't have voted for Hannah. You don't leave threats in and claim you made all the big move and are responsible for everyone that are sitting on the Jury. You know they are thinking but why is one of the big threats sitting next to you instead of a goat? Since she claims she was the one behind all of these move, she could have and should have taking out Adam, Jay and David. The only person left to win the finale immunity challenge would have Ken who would have taking her to the FTC. He doesn't seem to have a relationship with Bret and Sunday. I think she overthink the Ken would have lost trust in me and completely misread the jury.

I want to say no way they would do a spin off with Jesse Williams since he's such a bad actor but I don't think Ellen Pompeo is a good actor either and Grey's has been on for almost 12 years now.

Who gave Hannah any shit? The juror? This Forum? The jurors who ask her questions ask her the same questions they ask Ken and Adam. The rest just ask Adam questions (that we were shown). If anyone got shit from the juror it was Ken who claim that jurors didn't even acknowledge him

Well it matters since they keep on of the threats with them in the finale 3. You cannot keep Adam in the game and claim you did what the jury wanted you too just not soon enough. And most importantly it matters because of jury management, you know the people one is trying to convince to gave them the million dollar

Maybe we will see them do this on the Amazing Race. https://vid.me/xfZm If only CBS makes it happen

Okay, I'll gave you that... why did he have to say that against someone who won that going to do something for Cancer research?

From the Parade interview He said this when the winner is a homeless shelter manager?

I think they did that b/c Adam talk to Ken before the IC and Hannah did that after the IC game while Adam and David listen to Ken and left him alone. I don't think they left it out to preserve his edit b/c the editors showed him to be a very flawed player who cries to much. And we know society doesn't like it when men cry What funny to me is that people on forums like this though Hannah deserves some votes but social media press like Afterbuzz TV though Ken deserves some votes instead of Adam winning by a landslide

Hannah should have gotten rid of Adam in a way that didn't alienated him. He would have been her advocate in the jury. She had no one to advocate for her with the other jurors. Ken also had no one, not even David. Adam on the other hand had a few people making cases for him in Ponderosa.

It just goes to show you that sometime people not going with the logical ideas that one come up with can wins you the game. Losing the battle can win you the war in survivor, just let the others take the heat

How does Hannah compare to Heidi? From another season I didn't watch. Did Sandra try to get rid of people, came up with ideas but no one was listening to her but ended winning anyway? And when did Jeff say this?

Someone on Reddit compare Adam wins to Jenna Morasca wins, in terms of edit and the players that were in the finale 4. I didn't watch Jenna season but that makes me wants to.

I would that, even if they had no chance of winning.

If one is not making others aware of the move that they have made and/or made relationship with someone in the jury to advocate for them than how did they expect to win?

I don't think the jury was bitter at all, that word is being thrown around too much. They thought it made no sense to get rid of the people they got rid of while keeping David, Jay and Adam in the game. Getting rid of one threat means nothing when you still keep another one in the finale 3. And people told them that Adam was a threat too, but one was more interested in staying/being perceive as loyal and the other cares more about getting rid of perceive goats in order to be taking to the finale 3 while keeping 3 strong players in the game. Fine don't get rid of David before Sunday but get rid of Adam or Jay before her. That would have been a stronger resume in the eye of the jury. If you are going to bring two players to the finale four that people have told you have a strong chance to win than you deserve to lose. And I though the same as them. It not a good game move unless all they wanted to do was played for 2nd and 3rd place than its a brilliant game move.

And at that point Ken and Hannah should have realize they had absolutely no sense of winning, well they should have realize that beforehand when they didn't get rid of David earlier too. I know people said that they wouldn't have made it to the FTC but they could have gotten rid of Jay, Adam and David back to back in any order and one of them might have won

But how was it justifying their vote that they didn't vote that way because of Adams story when the jury perceive that it was Adam that flip Ken before Adam share his story base on Chris talk and other nodding/agreeing with Chris at the FTC? Adam made a lot of talk at like 3 tribunal about getting rid of David, while Ken and Hannah didn't. They should have realize that its the people in the jury that decide who wins survivor and play to the jury or made their case before FTC. Making your case at FTC, its already too late. The jurors doesn't need to justify their vote, people are going to believe what they want to believe. I know the story wasn't the reason why he won b/c I watch the jury speaks video before they went to the FTC. Also he could have mention his mom illness seating next to David and/or Jay and he wouldn't have won b/c David was perceive has the best player and he played a great social game. And Jay was a social butterfly and won IC. Adam would have won against anyone that not Jay and David imo b/c he was seen as the 3rd biggest threat outside of David and Jay, and he made it to the FTC

Adam only told two people about it, one was Jay and the other Ken was sitting right next to him in the finale. Going by the jury speaks video, not interviews after the jurors watch the show, his mom illness had nothing to do with the votes It would be like me saying Jeremy only won against Tasha and Spencer because he drop that baby news. With both Adam and Jeremy the jurors made up their mind back at ponderosa. Adam was smart enough to play to the jury at the Tribal Council leading up to David being voted out. Talking him up as a big threat, the best player. Which Ken and Hannah didn't do, which hurt them along with their weak social game.