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Faith ++ Home ++ Dead In The Water ++ 29- Pilot 29 - Scarecrow 25 - The Benders 25 - Skin 23 - Devil's Trap 23 - Faith 23 - Dead in the Water 21 - Something Wicked 17 - Hell House 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Shadow 15 - Asylum 13 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Salvation 11 - Wendigo 09 - Home GANKED: Bugs Provenance Dead Man's Blood Hook Man

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Silly!? Hah. I'm deadly earnest to get Jensen to beat this young pup. **may have to review my OCD issues**

++Shadow --Hell House ++Home 29- Pilot 29 - Scarecrow 25 - Devil's Trap 23 - The Benders 23 - Skin 21 - Faith 21 - Dead in the Water 21 - Something Wicked 19 - Shadow 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 17 - Hell House 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Salvation 11 - Wendigo 09 - Home 01 - Hook Man GANKED: Bugs Provenance Dead Man's Blood

Changed timezones, not sure what will show up... but it's been more than 24 hrs for me so.... ++Home -- Dead Man's Blood ++Shadow 27 - Scarecrow 27 - Pilot 23 - Devil's Trap 23 - The Benders 21 - Faith 21 - Dead in the Water 21 - Skin 19 - Hell House 19 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 17 - Shadow 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Salvation 13 - Wendigo 11 - Home 03 - Dead Man's Blood (noticed it had been left off but not voted off.) 03 - Hook Man

I don't know if he knew it was a demon but I think he knows Crowley is trying to manipulate him. I think they are setting it up so it could go either way - Dean falling for Crowley's manipulation or Dean surprising us the audience by seeing in coming and just keeping it to himself. Makes sense to me that keeping us guessing is a good thing from a storytelling perspective. I read in several places a theory that Dean actually went to Milton, Illinois and was in the vicinity (ostensibly to be near by for Sam) because the name of the bar was The Milton. To me that just does not compute so I'm going to set up my rationale as to why I think Dean stayed in Kansas and seek opinions. Essential bits which influence my perspective: Dean appeared pretty desperate for a drink and pulled the scotch out of a hiding place even before the door shut when Sam left. I take that as Dean really wants some "me" time and doesn't want Sam to know he has issues. Par for the Dean course. When Sam calls (and Dean has polished off the ENTIRE bottle of scotch), Dean suggests there's nothing there and Sam come home. Sam says he's staying the night just to be sure. Then Dean LEAVES FOR THE BAR. To me, this is the single most important clue -- Dean felt there was likely no danger so why would he drive to Illinois at this point? When Sam calls again Dean is already AT THE BAR. At this point it's a real case but if Dean wanted to provide "secret backup" this would seem to be the moment he would leave for Illinois. But since he stays at the bar, seems to me, the bar is in Kansas. Dean walks away from the bar. Now it's entirely possible he took an MOL car or Dorothy's bike, but he may have just walked into town. Again, keeps him in Kansas. Finally, "Milton" is, of course, a likely nod to Paradise Lost. Which is so full of the Satan, Adam and Eve and both falls from grace that the parallels are obvious. The use of "Milton" for both the town and the bar is not IMO a coincidence. Especially when the sign for the bar is framed between Dean and Crowley for their final conversation. Further, the Paradise Lost concept also applies to Sam's story - so using it in two locations may have just been an anvil or a nod to the two major stories in the poem. To be specific (and other interpretations exist I'm sure): -- For Dean: clearly he's suffering with both temptation and a Fall from Grace. The Blade's effect, every choice he's making, etc.. I won't go so far as to say he's getting the Satan arc (although that may be an intentional misdirect), but he's gone from the #1 Angelic Vessel to potentially a weapon of Hell. And the primary temptation may very well be power. -- For Sam: The town's nicest people had their souls corrupted. Souls forcibly turned away from good to evil. It lacks the "choice" element but there's arguably plenty of sympathy for the Fallen in Paradise Lost (if memory serves). Sam himself doesn't seem in any position to bite the metaphoric Apple but perhaps him going along with the First Blade plan is supposed to lean towards Milton's story where Adam wittingly eating the Apple knowing it's dangerous. Dean, in this plot, is Eve who has taken on this evil (mission to kill Abaddon using the First Blade), and Sam is joining him because he feels Abaddon is a big enough threat. Now the analogy to the Adam and Eve story kinda falls apart in many ways because right now Sam has given Dean the "no brothers" speech. OTOH, his actions seem to suggest more and more that he's not going to stick to that position. Bottom Line: I think the timing and logistics don't support the theory that Dean secretly went to Milton, Illinois to keep an eye on Sam (and that is why the bar is named The Milton). I think the parallels with Milton's Paradise Lost are obvious, along with the two-arc construct, to make the use of "The Milton" as the name of the bar precisely to hammer home the parallel. Opinions? DISCLAIMER: I'm familiar with Paradise Lost, not a scholar of the work. If I've really butchered it, gentle correction would be appreciated.

Home ++ Dead Man's Blood -- Dead In the Water ++ 27 – Scarecrow 25 - Pilot 23 - Devil's Trap 23 - Faith 23 - Dead in the Water 21 - The Benders 21 - Hell House 19 - Skin 19 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Wendigo 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Salvation 09 - Home 05 - Hook Man 05 - Dead Man's Blood GANKED: Bugs Provenance

BTS Stuff from Guy Norman Bee (director for Stairway to Heaven): http://campl.us/q70V https://twitter.com/guynormanbee/status/452229365062180864 and S.E. Hinton (who was visiting set): https://twitter.com/se4realhinton/status/451470076521095168/photo/1/large Which, leads to the some tiny info bits to squeeze out of these pics: - The beards of breakup seem less prominent - Dean is in both the MoL with Sam and also later in standard FBI garb --- which means whatever happened in King of the Damned did not result in Dean going off the rails - There's a boardroom full of what looks like bureaucrats -- I'm guessing either Reapers or Angels in this ep - Guy also took a picture of the First Blade but that doesn't mean it's in the ep IMO In other news: Meta Fiction Sneak Peak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2eh8HCosW4 This one pretty much rivals Mad Men for lack of info. I'd bet money this clip is shortly after the shower scene --- suggesting the shower scene might be early OR might be at the very end (I think early most likely). Finally, Bloodlines description: source: http://supernaturalfansonline.com/2014/04/10/supernatural-9-20-bloodlines-episode-description-spin-off-pilot/ No surprises.

Bugs - Dead In the Water ++ Home++ 27 - Scarecrow 23 - Devil's Trap 23 - Faith 23 - Pilot 21 - The Benders 21 - Hell House 21 - Dead in the Water 19 - Skin 19 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Wendigo 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Salvation 09 - Dead Man's Blood 07 - Hook Man 07 - Home 01 - Provenance GANKED: Bugs

Bugs -- Home ++ Devil's Trap ++ 27 - Scarecrow 23 - Faith 23 - Pilot 21 - The Benders 21 - Hell House 21 - Devil's Trap 19 - Dead in the Water 19 - Skin 17 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Wendigo 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Salvation 11 - Dead Man's Blood 09 - Hook Man 07 - Home 03 - Bugs 03 - Provenance

EP 9.19 Description Source: http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/04/cw-upcoming-episodes-press-release.html Oh I'm worried. I love Sheriff Mills. I'm hoping she makes it through the ep.

Home ++ Bugs -- Devil's Trap ++ 25 - Scarecrow 23 - Faith 23 - Pilot 21 - The Benders 21 - Hell House 19 - Dead in the Water 19 - Skin 19 - Devil's Trap 17 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Wendigo 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Salvation 13 - Hook Man 11 - Dead Man's Blood 09 - Home 07 - Bugs 05 - Provenance

Dead in the Water++ Home++ Bugs-- 23 - Faith 21 - Scarecrow 21 - Pilot 19 - Hell House 19 - The Benders 19 - Devil's Trap 19 - Dead in the Water 17 - Something Wicked 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Bloody Mary 15 - Wendigo 15 - Skin 15 - Hook Man 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Dead Man's Blood 15 - Salvation 11 - Bugs 09 - Home 07 - Provenance

Title option for consideration: Moose on a Mission

Thanks Pete. I do love talking about the characters. I'll offer up one subtitle: - Worthy - Sexy Squirrel

I love Tessa. I wonder what she'll say to Dean... presuming they have a conversation.

Devil's Trap ++ Home ++ Faith ++ 21 - Faith 19 - Scarecrow 19 - Pilot 19 - Hell House 17 - The Benders 17 - Dead in the Water 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Devil's Trap 15 - Home 15 - Wendigo 15 - Bloody Mary 15 - Skin 15 - Hook Man 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Dead Man's Blood 15 - Salvation 13 - Something Wicked 13 - Bugs 11 - Provenance

Plus we have Jensen Ackles' interview that even pre-Blade Runner, the Mark was like a low-dose steroid on his system. Except for getting knocked out or roofied, we haven't seen evidence of him sleeping but at lest two incidents where he definitely is not. So the "souless" theory comes into play -- or at the very least, his soul is being effected. On the Jodi Mills bit -- and talking about her son. Kim Rhodes has said that she sort of has a motherly vibe she plays with Sam. I'm wondering if Sam will open up to Jodi regarding Dean's actions and we might finally get an in-depth POV from Sam that isn't charged with brotherly baggage. My secret wish: Jodi would clue in Sam that Dean is acting like a parent would act with their child and that this makes sense given their upbringing. Maybe this will help Sam to see Dean's POV about ('and I would do it again').

Ms Taken - Does your "Daily Tally" mean a voting round has ended and we can vote again -- or is there a "clock hour" that is the 24 hr moment?

Home ++ (is this hopeless on my part?... I love how Dean tries to contact John and goes full metal jacket to save Sam) Devil's Trap ++ (that brutal conversation in the cabin still haunts me) Faith ++ (I loved the musical montage and Lilah) 19 - Scarecrow 17 - The Benders 17 - Dead in the Water 17 - Phantom Traveler 17 - Hell House 17 - Faith 17 - Devil's Trap 15 - Pilot 15 - Wendigo 15 - Bloody Mary 15 - Skin 15 - Hook Man 15 - Bugs 15 - Asylum 15 - Route 666 15 - Nightmare 15 - Shadow 15 - Provenance 15 - Dead Man's Blood 15 - Salvation 13 - Something Wicked 13 - Home

A BTS report. http://yvrshoots.com/2014/03/shoot-supernaturals-jared-padalecki-jensen-ackles-back-in-the-impala-in-chinatown.html#.Uzb_toW9biX I checked and the Impala was un-keyed in Mother's Little Helper so that must have been fixed right away when they got back to the bunker. Still, it's nice to see a "beauty shot" of Baby.

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I'm going to bet we don't have a Cain sighting again this season so that IMO leaves Crowley or Dean. Since Crowley is "King of Hell", and Dean is not yet dead - "Damned" seems more appropos for him. He's going to go to Hell (hence Damned) and yet is potentially in charge. I really hope they don't kill off Abaddon quickly, I'd like her to be in more than one more episode. AH can chew scenery so well. All the titles are interesting to me. I'm a little surprised that we have three more eps (Meta fiction, Stairway, and Miracles) that seem potentially more Angel-story than Hell story. I hope they don't rush either but I could also see Heaven being closed a more immediate issue than Abaddon's factory. What if she gets ahold of those souls chilling in the "waiting room"? Those guys need to get tucked up in Heaven and away from her mitts.

Alright... I'll start a topic that's not allowed on TWOP for our beloved Supernatural because apparently we have not behaved well in the past. But we're better than that now... RIGHT?!?! Right. So....here's I go... Spoilers I know of thus far (sticking with big things...I'll figure out the whole linking etc... later). - Misha is obviously in Metafiction EP 9.18, and then the last three (EP 9.21 King of the Damned, EP 9.22 Stairway to Heaven, and EP 2.23 untitled finale). - Curtis Armstrong obvious in EP 9.18 as well as Tahmoh Penikett - Kim Rhodes (Jodi Mills) is in EP 9.19 Alex Alexis Annie Ann -- which is by far the most intriguing title and has the least bit of spoilers. Other tidbits: - There's a dark haired actress who has a prominent role in 9.19. Actress name is Katherine Ramdeen and she posted alot on Twitter while filming. I'm wondering if she is one or all of the titular characters. - Jensen mentioned he was doing pushups these days due to Mark of Cain. Now I'm wondering if it was also tied to shower scene. Brave soul. - Jensen and Jared are currently filming exteriors in Chicago for 9.20 Bloodlines. So there's some starter dough.