missy jo

Lol, Bungalow 3 needs to be in the credits. But I don't think it's any more than a symbol of Sally falling apart and losing track, which is pretty understandable under the circumstances. But yeah, she was cold to Eve and it sounded like she'd told her to get an abortion back in the day. Still, $60k off the books per year is more than enough to live in Miami without constantly being on the run from bill collectors. Thanks for pointing out Meg's boss was from Frazier! It was driving me crazy trying to figure out where I knew her from. As far as the vaunted Rayburn name, I think the show strains believability with that. But I will say that the Keys are akin to a very small town, and also have a high transient population. So family roots do count for something. Still, I have no idea how Danny having a child would ruin their freaking name, come on. Lots o' Leguizamo butt to open the episode, lol.

This was THE episode of the season for me. I was on the edge of my seat. I totally fell for the fakeout that John was going to have to face the music. And he almost did! The scene with John and Ghost Danny while John was deciding what to do was masterful acting work.

Thomas and Landon definitely hooked up, but who cares. And I'm the last one to take Landon's side, but she's allowed to post whatever she wants on her own social media. Thomas is wealthy, but they showed how cheap he was with Kathryn (the difference in their two houses, his own THs admitting it, etc). In my experience, the more money people have, the cheaper they are. That's how they stay rich! Anyone know what happened between Kathryn and Jennifer before filming? Kathryn wouldn't even look at Jennifer during her segment and she looked absolutely disgusted. Very weird and noticeable. Also agree it's strange not to have JD on. Too bad Bravo ruined this show. It was charming af the first season.

Season 1 was magical, but the producers can't resist showing us the worst of people in the sophomore season, and then resorting to boring producer setups by season 3. It was organic and charming at first. I had the worst crush on Shep! I still think he's too hard on Craig - it's valid, but not his place. Other than that, they bag on Shep for being a slacker when he actually owns and runs two businesses. He's under no obligation to settle down, the same way Cameron isn't under obligation to have a child. He actually explained being an ethical womanizer perfectly. Just be honest. Don't lead people on. He seems to be firm on that. I don't think Whitney is weird about Katherine because he has feelings for her. I think he is holding a grudge about how she went off on him at Jekyll Island, screaming and nearly attacking him physically. That was so trashy. I don't watch this show for that. I think that's where Patricia gets it from too. She's uber protective of her son and watched it on TV. I absolutely believe Landon slept with Thomas. Remember how cozy they were at the beginning of the season? It would be funny if they actually started dating and she had to deal with Katherine and the three babies, including Thomas.

I can't believe they got to the very end of the season without Meri "calling a thing a thing" and admitting she had an affair. I mean, she told the family she might be leaving them at the end of the previous season! Meri had an affair. By every definition. It doesn't matter that the person on the other end was a fake. Mariah is the only one who seems to get it. So we watched table settings, beach umbrella debates and parking cars. And more therapy sessions, because all these people hate each other. I think they showed two episodes at a time each week to get it off the air more quickly. Doesn't bode well.

As a Floridian, I totally agree - they do not GLAMORIZE the climate down in the Keys! It really is that humid and miserable! John's house, right on the canal, would have swarms of mosquitoes. I don't even know how they filmed those outdoor scenes!

Yeah, I think Sally flat out didn't believe he actually "threatened." He did it in such an ingenious way that made it hard to really describe.

I can't stand Ben. He almost kept me from watching this season. Snitches get stitches!

I LOVED the choice of song over the end credits, screaming "I'm a liar, liar liar!!!" Anyone know what that song is? The perfect bookend to John convincing his mother he was actually doing a *good* thing by moving the drugs to Danny's apartment. I think all their reactions are pretty realistic. John, Meg and Kevin aren't exactly hardened criminals, so they're shocked, terrified, grieving, in denial and cover up mode. Kevin was already a partier, but is it any wonder that guilt and money troubles would make him even more desperate? Whether or not Diana's points were valid, it's awful to say those things to a mother whose child has just been murdered. Sally is grieving, has a lot of guilt, and at the end of the day mothers love their children regardless. JBC344 - Thank you for noticing the woman in the pharmacy as Nolan's mom! I only caught it on second viewing. Glad to hear it was right on. Lastly... I don't think I'll ever look at lollipops the same way after seeing John Leguizamo have his way with one, lol.

Retyping my Season 1 post here (can't quote from different topic), so I can compare and contrast: QUOTE: "Rewatched the 1st season to prepare for the 2nd. No nitpicks here, I was a fan from the start. The Florida Keys are their own character, depicted true to life in meticulous detail. From the picture perfect veneer that draws the tourists to the seediness lurking below. The environment outside the resorts isn't quite as enticing. They don't dress up the actors with fake Hollywood glamour. Everyone's sweaty, with weathered skin and wilted hair, and a bottle of liquor close at hand. I had a lot of sympathy for Danny at first, as the ostracized black sheep. Especially when they revealed the unfair way he was treated after the accident. I saw his breaking point, preceded by obsessively listening to the old police tapes, his heart broken when his father wanted to pay him off to leave, and finally he snapped. Tragedy was inevitable from there. All the acting is fantastic, and I 'got' the characters, despite their flaws. The only unredeemable one was the cruel, unforgiving father. Sissy Spacek was amazing , and of course Ben Mendelssohn stole the show. "We're not bad people, but we did a bad thing." A suspenseful tagline and a shocking understatement!" /END QUOTE So Season 2 starts with the picture perfect veneer gone and only the seediness remaining. It was gloomy, but still an accurate portrait of the Keys. They're reeling from their actions and trying to cope. Meg flees. Kevin is the weak link, which is realistic under the circumstances. John radiates tension and never takes a breath. Didn't like John's treatment of Nolan. Your nephew, who lost his father, shows, up. Normal response is to be sympathetic and welcoming as you check it out. Even Diana was rude and she doesn't know the half of it! Thrilled to see Danny back! Wasn't sure how they'd do the show without him. Adding insult to injury, he knows John left him to be killed. No wonder he was ready to burn it all down! Glad Sally wants the whole story. Despite his actions, he was her son. Of course she would torture herself over whether she could have done differently. And now she doesn't trust her Golden Child who's been caught in a lie. John says, "Danny was involved with bad people, Mom. It was never going to end well." This is a callback to the Season 1 tagline, "We're not bad people, but we did a bad thing." Well, turns out the real bad people were right there in the family. And it was bound to end poorly.

So Beth's argument to LuAnn was... "Admit you're a bad person. She only wanted to make Lu cry (how gross is that?), and then she backed off when she finally shed a tear over Sonja. Only to start in again the next day. And without Carole insisting, Beth really was going to leave without thanking Dorinda. Raised by wolves indeed! Meanwhile, Lu compliments dinner and the property. I prefer the Countess!

Cosign to Chelsea admitting at each reunion that she still hooked up with Adam. I don't have any reason to believe she still wouldn't be, if she hadn't found that doofus replacement. Cole is actually hot, but his baby talk ruins it. I don't believe the stats about Teen Mom lowering pregnancy either. I'd have to see causation. However, I notice Dr Drew has stopped talking to the girls using about birth control, lest they join the sad statistic of teen mom's having second kids soon after. Fail!

When Bryan said he was former SAE, viewers all over the country were like, "OH..." (Or at least I was.) He was disgusting when he was talking about her even before he was falling down drunk, so no. Not a gentleman. Those anniversary decorations were so tacky! They looked like they were done by some broke ass junior-prom committee.

Leah performed that monologue at the BBQ like she was going for an Academy Award. Her brother and sister just stood there as she droned on and on about her "progress" over the past year. I don't know how she even memorized the lines.

I'll be back with more comments, but yes I think Bungalow 3 deserves to be listed in the credits by now. I figured it just kept getting referenced for continuity's sake, but maybe y'all are onto something. John is the stereotypical middle-child "fixer." I thought they played out their roles in the family very well.

MJ is horrible. She deserves to end up like her mother. I'm glad Tommy stands up to her. Really pissed about them going at GG for her disease. I have a chronic illness and I'm not OK with questioning people's diagnoses. Find another production driven storyline. This show is going to get canceled.

I hope Jenelle loses custody of Kaiser. I was so nervous when they were angry at the *baby* for crying, and then taking them all out in that little boat. The filming timeline has really confused me. Leah was high as hell at the start of the season, but now she looks OK (Except for the dinner with Jeremy) and has been out of rehab for a year. Vee gave birth a few episodes back, but the baby looked older than a newborn. I wish it hadn't taken me all season to realize to mute Chelsea's stupid voice!

Thomas' comment about daughters being a "derivative" couldn't be as offensive as it sounded, right? Right? Cameran's storylines this season about whether to have a baby and working with Shep were 100% producer-driven. Landon is a dim bulb for letting Cameran talk her into confessing her love to Shep. I thought his heavily advertised spit-take at hearing it was going to be down to editing, but he actually did that in real time. Lol!

Someone reiterated in the episode thread how Jenelle divorced Meri's brother and then married her husband. I mean, when I read that back a few times, I'm stunned. That's batshit crazy and sleazy af! No wonder Meri despises her. I would! I can't cede Jenelle the high ground on anything, considering that. Funny how they get the vapors over the possibility of Logan living in sin, but divorce is no biggie. Such a convenient religion.

I'm Team Mariah on this one. Her mother had an affair. That's a BIG deal. And it was a relationship that she'd warned her against, and that Mariah ended up tangentially associated with. It's gross, and a major betrayal. I have issues with apologies. They are often selfish and manipulative. People expect to do whatever they want, and then demand absolution. It's for their own benefit to make themselves feel better. Well, "I'm sorry," but you don't get to dictate the timetable of other people's feelings about your behavior. I think Mariah explained it pretty well, and she has the right to take the time she needs.

Logan is hawt. And sane. How did that happen? Yeah, I don't get the excitement about baby #18. The others don't get any attention as is. I think it's really selfish. I understand it's part of their f'd up religion, but frankly, they don't strike me as very religious. Aside from Robin's "there was angels there," lol.

Wow, that's disappointing about the end of tax incentives for Florida filming. That goes for all shows and movies shot here. The state looks great on film. Let alone, according to the article, how much tourism it brought to the Keys. "Come get drunk and murdered!"

It would be impossible to explain how annoying Kody was during the birth to anyone who didn't see it for themselves. Words don't do it justice. How about his exasperated, "If she passes out (from not breathing the way he tells her), then we're all going to have to wait on her!" Loved them leaving Meri at home waiting for a mass text. (I guess she could've just gone across the street though.) And Robyn saying there was no way Areola was gonna share a birthday with Meri and Dayton. Omg, y'all. Robyn's creepy American gothic parents at the foot of the bed! I kept imagining them holding a pitchfork.

Good for Mariah! This should be an ad for going to college. She went to university, and "learned critical thinking skills," then realized she didn't agree with polygamy or the tenets of her religion. As annoying as she's been, it just goes to show that she had the capacity to grow outside her environment. Saw the previews for tonight's episode. I don't know if I can tolerate Kody mansplaining labor and childbirth.

Rewatched the first season to refresh my memory for the second. No nitpicks here - a fan from the start. The Florida Keys are their own character, depicted true to life in meticulous detail. From the picture perfect veneer that draws the tourists to the seediness lurking below. The environment outside the resorts isn't quite as enticing. They don't dress up the actors with fake Hollywood glamor. Everyone's sweaty, with weathered skin and wilted hair, bathing suits under their clothes, and a bottle of liquor close at hand. I had a lot of sympathy for Danny at first, as the ostracized black sheep. Especially when they revealed the fundamentally unfair way he was treated for the accident. I saw his breaking point, preceded by obsessively listening to the old police tapes, and his heart broken when his father wanted to pay him to leave. Tragedy was inevitable from there. All the acting is fantastic, and I "got" the characters, flaws and all. The only unredeemable one was the unforgiving father. Sissy Spacek is amazing, and needless to say, Ben Mendelssohn carries the show. "We're not bad people, but we did a bad thing." A suspenseful tagline and a shocking understatement by the end. Altogether an excellent and overlooked show. Oh well, we can keep it for ourselves!