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For me, Lu's best asset, besides her easy style, are her arms. I don't like ripped arms. Hers are perfectly well toned and the skin is so smooth. No sign of crepey-ness at all. I think Money Can Buy You Great Beauty Treatments. And exercise classes. But I think Lu has good genes and no amount of money is going to make you look like that unless you use those pricey products and take those Pilates classes religiously. I'd bet dollars to donuts that Lu doesn't eat donuts. Or much junk at all. And though there are rumors that she likes to get her drank on, my guess is she doesn't do it often because here is a woman who is in control of her looks and she's not going to risk empty calories on booze and then scarf that entire economy bag of ships while weakened by the booze. Persnickity, does she mention on her twitter what kind of exercise she does?

This. I saw the re-run of Heather following Ramona around that party last season, with the evil jack o' lantern grin and getting all up in Ramona's grill. 'Creepy' was the word that came to mind. And 'stalky'. And aggressive. And intrusive. When Heather feels wronged maybe, for a change, she should try to let it go, let it goOoooo.... I'll bet Heather is awesome at jazz singing, too. Ha!!

But after you click on the red quote signs, a black box pops up that says 'Reply to 1 quoted post(s).' You have to click on that, too, to get the quoted post in a window. Then start your post outside the quoted post box. Is that how it works for you, Persnickety, or does yours skip the black box part?

The King should set up LU! Why doesn't that happen? I wonder if Lu and Yo would/could be friends. Or would they just cancel each other out?

I didn't see Kristen insisting on going first as much as I saw Heather and Luann BOTH pointing at her when the instructor asked who was going first. Kristen said she'd go to get it over with "in a good way". Actually, when he asked, Heather crossed her arms and pointed at both Kristen and Lu. Interesting. Like, nuh-uh. Not me first. Which leads me to this... In case you didn't hear, Heather is a tomboy. If she spent her youth competing with boys, some I'm sure stronger and faster than her, she learned about false bravado at a young age. Her speech, swagger, bossiness, which some call self-confidence - are at odds with her angry, mean outbursts imo. If she were the ultra self-confident 'boss' that she calls herself, I think we'd see a calm, in-control Heather who didn't need to flaunt her excellence or make fun of someone 'less' excellent. I think she was telling Kristen that she didn't have to go off that cliff, that it was against human nature, yada yada because SHE herself was afraid. But she couldn't back down because she's built this image of this hard ass, take-no-shit from the neighborhood boys or anybody else attitude. She's going to fake it 'til she makes it, come hell or high water. Which is fine because that's usually what it takes to succeed but imo, she could lose the nasty streak and she'd get further, faster. Just my armchair therapist opinion. I am VERY excited for next weeks show because of Heather.

No, Maharincess. You're doing it right. What that little boy is doing is the oddest, most epic victory dance I think I've ever seen. Though I don't think Heather will raise her shirt and gyrate with tongue wagging when she "wins" again next week, I do think a victory dance will be involved. Extended footage from Luann vs. Sonja. Sonja is channeling Kelly on Scary Island. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/unseen-footage-of-rhonys-biggest-fights

Heather's reaction when she 'wins' at hatchet throwing next week: https://vine.co/v/MtZ2xhIjDPe Courtesy of MichaelK and Raven. OMG. So wrong but so right.

I think it's great that Heather is so athletic and competitive. That's probably the only thing I can relate to her about. But she just needs to stawp putting it in everyone's face. Surfing, mudrunning, working out - the list is long in what she's shown us - and tells us - she excels in. Looks like next week she kills it while hatchet throwing. Can't wait to see more humble from Heather. LOL - a battery? Long before I knew what geo cache-ing was, at the zoo I found a ziplock bag tucked under the slide with a couple foreign coins and some other random stuff. It looked like it had been there a long, long time. My son liked the coins so I let him have them. Once I learned about geo cache it made me wonder if I ruined hours and hours of fun for someone. Or a whole group of someones. Lesson learned.

C'mon youse guys. LOL Every time I see Heather's thread up near the top, I get all flushed and excited and like, "Finally! Heather's thread is moving up! Heather's thread is moving up! It's going where Aviva's and George's have been for almost the entire season. Snark!" And then I see it's about George. No snark about Heather? She's making it so easy! That said, I can't believe ANYBODY thinks it's a good idea for George and 'Cody' to have their own show.

From Lu's blog: Is 'well wisher' some kind of new age term that I missed because I don't pay attention to Oprah? Like The Gift's- Ask, Believe, Receive? (or whatever it was.) I mean, I know it's a noun with a true definition. But the way Aviva throws it around - and now seeing Lu use it, makes me wonder if it's some sort of movement that's based on a self help book or something.

I haven't read the blogs yet but it wouldn't be the first time Lu has surprised me in that regard. I want my Countesses to be above that kind of thing. Especially when Mrs. DeLesseps tries so hard to present herself in that manner - calm, cool and above it all. ETA: Hilarious, Midnight Cheese.

I've not ever really been a fan of Lu but my heart may have thawed a wee bit when she recognized that Kristen was feeling embarrassed and hurt about the geocache thing falling apart. She tried to help her find it when they finally got close. Empathy is important.

In the woods, Heather wasn't even what I'd consider "drunk". She was mildly buzzed which should be a pleasant experience. But she sure was nasty. She'd be a mean drunk, yo. I agree with whoever said, upthread, that she sounded like Josh. She also sounded a little like Ramona - when she was on the bridge with Bethenny. Condescending and hurtful. Calling Kristen a crybaby and speaking for the group when she said "get your ass out of the woods and stop trying to find something that nobody else cares about." Ouch. I hope she doesn't talk to her kids that way. Because that's what Heather sounds like, to me, whenever she talks. Like she's talking to children that she thinks are stupid. Even in her talking heads, it's like she's talking to us - a bunch of toddlers - who need very concise explanation. Complete with hand gestures. I agree that Heather wasn't the only one being awful, though. I can't believe that even if Montana, or geocache-ing, or rappelling isn't your thing you still couldn't at least participate from the sidelines by watching or encouraging. They're all being ridiculous.

Maybe part of the 'problem' is that some (most?) of the Hos and many people in general (me) have is that in our youth we don't think that time is ever going to catch up with us. Not wearing a bra because you're essentially flat chested, tanning because you never burn, not taking care of your feet, eating for 5 when you're pregnant just because you can, sub-par dental hygiene, crappy eating habits overall - it all catches up, duh. Sure the media promotes the high boobs, over toned bodies, and glowing sun-kissed skin but the media/internet can also provide any one who wants it the info to help themselves look and feel better when they hit middle age and things just start to naturally fall apart. My feet have always been flat. Had I known then what I know now I would've worn those expensive prescription orthotics that my mom bought for me when I was 17. But they didn't fit in my 'cute' shoes. Or in flip flops. LOL Youth is wasted on the young. I think Kristen looks beautiful. But I'll bet at 52 she'll wish she'd worn a bra. And divorced Josh sooner.

Bethenny sharing the stage with four other opinionated women who have more seniority than she? LOLOL. Whoopi will KICK HER ASS. From the article: Wait. She's been a food chef/cook/chook, cocktail creator, author, undergarment maker, work-out video star, poser for naked billboards, beauty product developer, restaurant hostess and a chauffeur/nanny. I think she even shoveled horse shit for a while. I feel like I'm missing something.

The apartment she looked at with Jill (Cher called. She wants her outfit back) was one that she and Jason1 were looking to buy together. Beth talked about having 3 bedrooms so when they had his kids over, they'd have rooms. Jason1's kids were luckier than they know to have dodged that bullet.

Don't feel bad. Mine contains: "Aviva Drescher's stump".

And we know how that worked out for Bill Clinton. Even though, Jac and Lu weren't married at the time, I hope she didn't have sex with the pirate. Although I kind of think she did.

I agree with it all. With a tiny caveat...I just can't say Bethenny was 'sweet' without choking on my croissant. I think she thought she was in love. And that softened her. Slightly. I watched some clips from BGM and BEA and although the problems seemed evident in the beginning, the attraction was certainly there, too. At times, I wondered how 2 people who looked at each other like that and seemed to make each other laugh so much could be filing for divorce less than 2 years later. I think he did want to rescue her as he appears to have been raised in a solid, loving household while she wasn't. But he got in over his head. She got the baby she wanted, the business went crazy, neither one of them knew how to cope. I really don't think there was a devious plan on either side. It's a pity there was a divorce but it's really a shame the way it's being played out.

So do you think that means that there's a lot of footage in the can of Jacques and Lu acting like a happy couple? Bring it, Bravo! The sheer crappiness of their acting would be so snarkable. That said, I wonder why Bravo wasn't happy about them faking it. Why couldn't it still be a part of the storyline? It's not like even 50% of this show is organic anyway. The whole baby storyline was when Lu and Jac finally jumped the shark for me. They had a toe in the water when Lu was singing with Natalie Cole and Jac was acting either dis-interested or overly enthusiastic - in the same frame. Another thing that I think is silly: So they cut Lu out of the intros because she's not a F/T Ho. Aviva was cut out of the intros (she's back now) as a means to punish her for whatever it was she did? That just seems so...so...un-corporate to me. It's like, nyah, nyah, we're taking your apple away. Bad Housewife. Bad. I guess as long as the paychecks kept rolling in I wouldn't care much. How infantile if that's why they do it, though. But what other reason could it be?

That makes sense. Now on to Kristen's boobs. LOL... Being relatively flat and not wearing a bra is going to bite her in the ass. Since she works out, her pecs will continue to stay firm while her boobs naturally get saggy. Gravity, yo. So she's going to end up with nice firm pecs and underneath those firm pecs - 'golf balls in tube socks' boobs. I can already see it happening in that pic. The only thing that will fix that (if she sees it as unattractive) is surgery or a weight gain. If she gains weight, she'll still have saggy boobs but having more flesh on her chest overall will blend the pecs into the boobs. She could've avoided that by wearing a brahr. But perhaps she doesn't see it as a problem. I think she's beautiful but one thing I would tell my 20 year old, flat chested self is that no matter how flat you are, you should always give the girls a boost.

Stumps swell and get larger and smaller depending on the time of day, circulation, humidity, medications, altitude (!), etc. so if she needs one after sitting on a cross country plane ride, she should get one without 2 legged people who have no idea (Heather) what it's like to have a swollen stump. Her swollen stump, jammed into that prosthesis in that pic looks awfully painful to me. Maybe she griped about THAT particular wheelchair being a cruel joke because everyone knew she wasn't taking the trip and somebody ordered the wheelchair anyway. And put the placard on it, to mock her "banner moment"? Could that be the cruel joke part? Maybe she can walk around Central Park during the morning before she gets swelling. Who knows. Her pictures all look staged to me anyway.

While searching for the designer of Aviva's bikini tops (love them but at $275 for just the top, I can't afford them) I came across this pic. The bulging tissue of her stump where it joins to her prosthesis looks like it would be painful if she had to walk a lot on it. The chafing alone probably gets uncomfortable. She can have a wheelchair, a trolley or a covered wagon to get her through the airport - large or small - as far as I'm concerned. They ALL need to draw attention to themselves. That's why they're on my TV. That's why they keep interrupting each other, having asinine fights and getting bikini waxes.

Actually, Lotus, my orthopedic surgeon did write a note against traveling to NYC, of all places. After the date of injury, date he saw me, yada yada, he wrote: ".....Mrs. Ryebread has experienced increased pain and inability to walk long distances. An MRI of the right knee has been ordered to rule out a lateral meniscus tear. For this reason, I feel the patient is unable to travel." Did he prohibit me? No, on that point I agree with you - he couldn't. But had my boss forced me to go and my knee gave out, plunging me onto the subway tracks, although I'm not an attorney I'm certain there would be at least Worker's Comp and then some. Helllooo vacation home. (FWIW, the note wasn't for a boss. It was requested by my airline to refund my tickets.) If the hags were so upset Aviva wasn't going because she keeps getting out of work commitments, they should get their own damn notes. LOL. Or refuse to film with her. Or something. Because challenging Aviva's real or imagined illnesses got them absolutely nowhere. Except looking stupid for poking the crazy. Again. Why do they even engage or care? They hate her.

While I mostly agree with you, she brings the snark and that counts for something as far as Bravo is concerned. Look at any RHONY forum since this season started and it seems like the majority of the posts are about Aviva. Aviva being a lunatic, to be sure, but still about Aviva. Andy fired Jill because she personally insulted Andy's intelligence. I don't think he cares when a Ho insults any of ours. LOL. As long as we're still talking about them. Silex were boring and Alex found her voice a little too late to be saved. I think Aviva should go because she is so roundly despised. But if she doesn't, her dad should DEFINITELY go. Because while Aviva may be different levels of vile for different people, I've not seen a single post on ANY site, in support of George. Besides, I think Andy is just twisted enough to try to create a complete image turnaround for Aviva just because he thinks he can. That's the only reason why I wouldn't care if she came back. I'd like to see him try.