strikera0

I still think the writers have chosen to sabotage Rene, Dinah and Curtis on purpose because they're planning to get rid of them at the end of the season. In light of the ever-shrinking ratings, the show will probably have to contend with further budget cuts and the best way to cut the budget is to trim the cast, so...

I just found this article:

Somebody should ask Echo or Juliana that question. I would like to know how they are trying to make sense of the ridiculous script.

Live+7 ratings for week 19: Arrow (6x12): 0.8 in A18-49 and 2.135 million viewers Supergirl (3x12): 1.0 in A18-49 and 3.322 million viewers The Flash (4x12): 1.7 in A18-49 and 4.431 million viewers Riverdale (2x12): 1.0 in A18-49 and 2.395 million viewers Black Lightning (1x03): 1.4 in A18-49 and 3.766 million viewers Supernatural (13x12): 1.0 in A18-49 and 2.628 million viewers Jane The Virgin (4x09): 0.6 in A18-49 and 1.277 million viewers

Good god, this show needs to remove all traces of Black Canary. Period. It doesn't matter how often they try - they somehow manage to do worse with each new version.

And after they killed off LL, they brought back another version of her and made her a series regular. There's no rhyme or reason to their decision-making, which is why I have stopped trying to make sense of it eons ago.

No idea, but they did it with Sara as well, so I wouldn't put anything past them.

I really hate thinking this, but it feels like the writers are deliberately sabotaging the Dinah character to force Black Siren into her place. The writing is just too ridiculous to be believed.

You know a writing staff is beyond saving when they have made their entire supporting cast unwatchable. I can't say that I have ever cared for Rene, Dinah, Curtis or Black Siren because they never had much of a character to begin with, but with the exception of Curtis, I honestly didn't mind them and was willing to give them a chance. However, the writing for these characters throughout the ongoing "Civil War" (LOL) storyline is beyond obnoxious and what's worse, the insanity of a redemption arc for Black Siren is also dragging Quentin and Thea into the mud right next to them. But - I guess this is what inevitably happens when a show runs on a shitty network that never seems to cancel anything. Sooner or later, the producers and writers go onto autopilot and just churn out script after script as part of a money grab. Quality dialogue, continuity, characterization, actions and motivations that actually make sense? Who would ever care about that?

Live+7 ratings for week 18: Arrow (6x11): 0.8 in A18-49 and 2.335 million viewers Supergirl (3x11): 1.0 in A18-49 and 3.208 million viewers The Flash (4x11): 1.4 in A18-49 and 3.811 million viewers Riverdale (2x11): 1.0 in A18-49 and 2.538 million viewers Black Lightning (1x02): 1.3 in A18-49 and 3.484 million viewers Supernatural (13x11): 1.1 in A18-49 and 3.029 million viewers Jane The Virgin (4x08): 0.6 in A18-49 and 1.391 million viewers

Meh, all characters on Arrow are hypocrites because the stupid writers can't write anything else.

Live+7 ratings for week 17: Arrow (6x10): 0.9 in A18-49 and 2.388 million viewers. Supergirl (3x10): 1.0 in A18-49 and 3.412 million viewers. The Flash (4x10): 1.5 in A18-49 and 4.055 million viewers. Riverdale (2x10): 1.0 in A18-49 and 2.586 million viewers. Black Lightning (1x01): 3.629 million viewers (A18-49 unknown). Supernatural (13x10): 1.0 in A18-49 (total viewership unknown)

I just found this opinion piece: ‘Arrow’: It’s Time to Put Quentin Lance Out of His Misery

What is it with the salmon ladder obsession of these actresses? If I remember correctly, KC always wanted to do it, too, and even claimed that she can but for whatever reason, the show never let her. IMO, the ladies should be more concerned with getting proper writing for their characters - like maybe asking the writers/producers if they could write more than one emotional beat (in Dinah's case it's anger) for their characters in any given script.

Unrounded preliminaries from SpottedRatings.com:

IMO, there's only one satisfying conclusion to this BS/Lance nonsense and that is for BS to kill him in cold blood.

Superpyroman has spoiled episode 13 in great detail on Reddit:

Dinah/Vincent flashbacks? Yeah, he's totally going to die.

Has this been posted yet:

Supergirl has been doing really well since the midseason break. It's too bad that the CW is killing all of it's momentum with the fucked up scheduling.

I'm sorry for the double post, but I just saw this on another forum and wanted to share:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Quentin should have died in season 4. His character has been going round in circles with his endless dead daughter drama since the pilot episode. At this point, his character has become thoroughly unwatchable to me.

JH's dad used to be Senior Vice President of International Content and Creative Affairs for Warner Bros, but that was almost 20 years ago. I doubt that he still wields much influence there.

It truly amazes me how one show can fail one character in 4 different incarnations. Dinah looks completely unhinged in this trailer and it's already obvious that the Vigilante plot's nothing more than a rehash of Laurel's failed season 1 storyline with Oliver and the Hood. In some scenes, she'll be visibly turned on by her murderous ex-boyfriend while in others, she'll recoil from him in disgust. This is what the Arrow writers consider complex storytelling. Sadly, they do not have the necessarry writing skills to pull it off and Dinah will come across like a total shizo. Just another terrible writing choice for a character that's already walking on thin ice with a lot of people.

I think I am having a brain freeze at the moment, but which secret are you referring to? The group knows about Vigilante by now, don't they?