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But, in this case, it would be her husband's firm that would be held up as doing the underhanded dealings. So, IF what Kim says is true both of her sisters' husbands would have been involved in shady underhanded dealings. Maybe Kim doesn't realize that she is saying that when she says that her house was stolen from her, but it is what she is saying.

So after my husband and I watched this episode we both decided the following: 1. We have to now find a way to own property in PS, because DAMN that was gorgeous. 2. We need to each find an opportunity to accuse one of our siblings of stealing our GD House. I told him that it only really works if it is slurred drunkenly during the heat of an argument. He said that was a given because otherwise what is the point of making such an accusation? He said that I would get bonus points if I pointed my finger in my sister's face while making the accusation, and that was when I reminded him that our family believes that if any unwanted body part invades the others personal space, the person doing the invading risks losing said body part. I told him he could try it with his brother and he said, I don't think guys do the finger point thing, so it might actually be hilarious enough to work. Honestly, aside from these boards, the only reason i even watch this show is because of how much fun he and I have making fun of the women.

Brandi said point blank that she can't talk to Kim about her concerns about her sobriety. She has talked to Lisa R and Jennifer about it and she flat out told Jennifer that Kim used and Jennifer told her it was a relapse. But, Brandi has not approached Kim with her concerns and even said that Kim would kill her and herself if she did. So, if Brandi is saying point blank that she can't and won't discuss her concerns with Kim, I highly doubt that there is some edited out footage of her talking to Kim about her concerns. 1. Since Brandi has said point blank that she can't talk to Kim about her sobriety, it is highly doubtful that there is footage of her doing exactly that. 2. Brandi was very clear when talking to Jennifer about Kim's issues that Kim had in fact used and Jennifer told her it was a relapse. There was no question of what she meant in that conversation. Although, I disagree that what she said to LisaR is in questions. She was very clear that she was worried about Kim and wanted LisaR to approach Kyle about it.

Rinna spoke her piece directly to Kim in Eileen's Kitchen. Brandi is the only person who has voiced concerns about Kim's sobriety without EVER approaching her directly. Lisa hasn't voiced any concern about it she has only advised Rinna tread carefully.

Lisa said that he was 23 which is about right since this was filmed last year. Brandi at the time was 43 an even 20 year age difference.

I almost forgot to mention this because there was so much happening in the last two episodes. When Kim came to LisaR's room to basically manipulate her into apologizing again, I could have sworn that I actually saw the moment when LisaR realized that it was best to pretend everything was fine. Kim had started rambling about her kids and how she only took the one pill and it wasn't a relapse, and for a split second LisaR looks like she is about to correct her. And then, you can just see her realize what level of delusion she was dealing with and she either closed her mouth or just said "I am sorry." It's a little hazy now with all of Kim's fuckery, but I kept trying to remember to post that here after the episode aired. Because LisaR's behavior after that totally made sense. It was a very small moment, but it is the moment of resignation on her part.

Yolanda's letter to Bella became public because someone sold it to the tabloids. She addressed it on the show as a youthful mistake and if the letter hadn't become public, that would have been all there was - no big stink just the family handling it privately after acknowledging it. In this case, since it didn't happen on the show, there is no reason for Yolanda to take to the internet or address it on the show. So, it makes much more sense for her to ignore it on Social Media. To defend it on Social Media would be to give it credence. I would be willing to bet that Mohammad and David Foster feel the same way.

I don't agree that Kim had one bad night. If that were the case, she would not have been slurring and then claimed not to hear what Brandi said about Mauricio not wanting Kyle at Kyle's Gay Mixer. She would not have had difficulty remembering which day it was that Kyle came to visit her. Brandi herself has said that Kim has not been sober. So this wasn't one bad night being brought up over and over again. LisaR brought up her specific experience in the limo ride to the other women and all of the women point to Kim's behavior at Poker Night. But, it wasn't just that isolated experience, that experience just happened to be the one that ALL but LisaV shared. But there were experiences after Poker Night unless either Kim or Brandi is lying. Which, they both are liars so either Kim was so out of it that she really didn't hear what Brandi said about Mauricio at the mixer, or she heard and lied about it to deflect. Either Kim has been sober except for that one pill and Brandi is lying about her not being sober, or Kim has not been sober and her behavior has been noticed by the other women. Either way, Kim has not been sober for the past three years by her own admission and the deflecting being done by her BFF.

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. I do think that Yolanda, having had Brandi in her ear this whole time, was using Bella's DUI to both find out if any of the women were talking about it and address the issues that Kim had - whether it was about needing support because of Monty or needing support in her sobriety. It dovetailed way too smoothly with Brandi's suggestion of a group intervention for all of the women so that Kim wouldn't feel singled out for me to ever believe that wasn't part of her motive. Since LisaR wouldn't stage a group intervention at Brandi's request, Yolanda took up the cause.

So, Yolanda never should have brought up Bella's DUI or asked the women to share something personal and all of this would have been avoided.

Eileen didn't incorporate herself into a conversation any more than anyone else at the table did. She simply said that what Kim said was not called for, a sentiment that everyone expressed. She didn't list any issues she had with Kim. After Kim told her to shut the fuck up, she simply asked why she had a problem with her as she had never done anything to her. Lisa V also expressed that Kim was hitting below the belt and even said that Kyle defends and protects Kim all the time, does that mean that she was also inserting herself into a conflict and hijacking the dinner?

I believe it was done until Brandi stirred Kim up by giving her half the story of her conversation with LisaR just before they boarded a plane. Kim was radiating animosity, and Lisar wanted to know why it was being directed at her. That, IMO, is what stirred it up again on camera. And then there was Yolanda asking the women to share something personal in the name of supporting each other after they had already had that ugly confrontation on the plane.

Kim also said that LisaR was sending her texts which, to me, says that she tried to approach her privately before and/or after talking to her at Eileen's.

But, Lisa never told the other women that she wanted to do an intervention. She talked to them about the best way to approach Kim because there was obviously something off and she was concerned. She then talked directly to Kim and told her that she had support if she needed it because Kim was talking about all she had to deal with and how overwhelming it was. I believe that would have been the end of it since both Eileen and LisaR said their peace in Eileen's kitchen. Then, Brandi told Kim about the conversation she had with LisaR, leaving out the fact that it was Brandi that said that Kim doing worse than anyone knew and that she was the one who suggested the women all confront Kim but do it in a way so that Kim didn't feel ganged up on. You have to hand it to Brandi. The way she was able to wind Kim up just before they all got on a plane to fly overseas so that there would be no escaping the tension.

WireWrap already responded, but yeah. Brandi suggested it and LisaR vetoed it as not being her place. Then, Brandi asked LisaR if she would at least talk to Kyle about Kim. Her reasoning was that Kim would kill her and herself if Brandi said anything. And she followed that up by saying that she (Brandi) couldn't talk to Kyle - most likely because Kyle would then be well aware that Brandi was talking about Kim's issues. LisaR then went to the rest of the women to feel them out and "ask permission" to talk to Kim about whether or not she knew she had support systems in place. I suspect that Brandi also went to Yolanda with the same line and that is part of why Yolanda brought it up in Amsterdam. Yes, she probably also wanted to see if what Brandi said about Bella being an alcoholic was making the rounds in the HW gossip, but i would bet anything that she thought this would be a good opportunity to address the things that BRANDI was bringing to everyone's attention, whether it be Bella's DUI or Kim's relapse. So I am glad that Kyle is finally telling Kim what her BFF has been saying to everyone else.

What did Kyle do to her this season? I think I must have missed something.

Yes, Tamra gave up custody. I think that Tamra wants to be the alpha female in her home and the normal conflict between a teenage daughter and her mother was intensified because of that and the fact that Tamra is not emotionally mature. The text messages between her and Sydney that were in the court documents prove that to me. There were times when it seemed like two 15 year olds arguing with each other rather than a mother trying to reason with her daughter. Tamra's texts were all about her and how she feels and how Sydney is doing all of this to her and how hard the divorce was on her. Even when Sydney would say that they should wait and talk about their problems with the counselor, Tamra would keep going about how everything was affecting her.

That scene from the canal tour when Brandi insisted the women say nice things about each other reminded me of the time that Camille, Taylor, and Adrienne were on WWHL and Andy played that game with them where they had to say three nice things about Brandi Glanville. Obviously WWHL happened long after the season was filmed, but I do wonder if Brandi was maybe thinking her game would happen somewhat like that. With the women struggling to find nice things to say about each other and even offering backhand compliments instead of sincere ones. And when that didn't happen and she could actually see that these women had bonded with each other without her and that no matter how fucked up Kim and Kyle's relationship was, they would always love each other even if they didn't like each other at the moment. She freaked out when it became her turn to receive compliments. Suddenly she didn't want to hear what nice things these women had to say about her. She would never accept any of it as sincere because she knew she didn't have a place with them. Even if they said sincerely nice things, she would never be able to believe them because she knew she had damaged any relationships she had had with them so much. I think that is when it clicked with her that she lifts right out of the group and that is why she freaked. ETA: I also think that realization was what made her so desperate to share some sort of intimacy with Lisa V on camera hence the invading her space trying to force a kiss and then the slap.

That is entirely possible. Brandi did choose her words carefully. She didn't say she was prescribed a patch. She said that she was using a patch. So, it is possible that Kim boosted something much stronger from Monty's medication supply. If she openly admitted to taking one of his pills (which who knows how many she actually took), it isn't beyond her to take something else of his.

I agree her addictions could definitely stem from her desire to self medicate for her mental issues. I just don't think that it is conducive to any kind of support she could offer her children or Monty. I also don't think that she should be on television while trying to come to grips with either her addictions or her mental issues. And being on television certainly doesn't help her children. I wish Kim and her children a better reality. I just hope that she realizes they won't have one while being on television.

I don't think it is Kim's fault either, but I don't think that she is equipped to be a support system for whichever child it is and that is if the story is actually true. I truly feel for her children because they really don't have her as an anchor or to act as any kind of supportive force in their lives.

The thing is that Brandi has been given multiple passes over the seasons by the women and the audience. And each time she has received one, she acts out even worse than the time before. She has burned through friendships on this show so often that the only person she has left is Kim, she of the chicken salad and watching her laundry dry. Lisa V, Kyle, LisaR all of these women went out of their way to give Brandi a pass. Brandi had the opportunity to share that teflon routine countless times and each time she burned it in favor of - I'm not even sure what it is she is trying to accomplish anymore. If she hadn't gone out of her way to hurt so many people I would totally feel sorry for her because she is so obviously damaged.

Thank you. I still don't understand the whole they are the same person thing, but she said something about Twitter so maybe that is where the answer is. I don't tweet so I am sure I miss plenty of battles over the Housewives. ETA: I just read one of the articles. I think I get why TT thinks its the same person. This person really LOVES Brandi.

I am respond to a post from the episode thread: For me, the interesting thing about this dynamic is that Brandi has had multiple opportunities with all of the women to have her bad behavior overlooked or be given a pass. And, yet she burns those bridges as though her very life depends on it. I get having poor impulse control, but she seems to have something more than just that going on. I mean, I think back to Poker Night and how well she and Kyle were getting along on the ride over. Why did she feel the need to insert herself into the fray when Kim became unraveled? I mean I get that she didn't know that Kim of her own volition freely admitted to taking Monty's meds, or that Kyle even tried to get her to cover her mic when she did. But she knows that now as she has watched the show. She knows that when Kyle was talking about being embarrassed that she was talking about how bad she was at poker and it had nothing to do with Kim. But, her blog makes no mention of it. Not just that. Look at the incident with the pictures. Until they were posted in another thread, I have never seen any of Brandi's "pictures from that night." As much as I dislike Kyle, I have always appreciated the fact that those photos were the reason that she reached out to Brandi and tried to understand her as a person. Those were Brandi's words as expressed in her blogs and interviews. Brandi would only allude to the events of that night but she had nothing but praise for Kyle in how Kyle reached out to her. It makes me wonder why Brandi would go from praising her to seeming to despise her. I don't understand why Brandi would go out of her way to make an enemy of her. Brandi and Kyle were in a good place. They weren't true friends, but they were working towards getting to know each other. Brandi and Kyle talking to each other on way to Poker Night was something I never expected to see. They had both been recipients of Kim's behavior at that point, so I am still shocked at the way Poker Night went down when we consider the way it could have gone down.

Can anyone tell me what Tamara Tattles is talking about when she talks about here? She keeps talking about a someone name Katherine and someone named Kristine and how they are the same person and they are Brandi's ghostwriter? But, because she doesn't want to feed traffic to their site, she never provides any links and it is all very confusing.