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Insomnia

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I think the title is fairly self-explanatory.

 

So I'm doing my re-watch and I'm on the first ep of season 6 and this jumped out at me, so I had to make a topic because there wasn't one yet.

 

Pam to Tara- "We fucked once now it's you and me, girlfriends forever?" When exactly did this happen? They just get back to the bar, after they were all running away from Bill, after the slaughter at the Authority where Tara set Pam free. And they kissed.

 

Did everyone wait around while they got it on? Did they fuck on the way home? If vampires kissing is fucking then what is sex to them?

 

Also, that whole speech is out of order from everything else. It's night when they talk to Bill and Jessica stays. Then when the humans show up it seems to be daylight outside of Fangtasia, and then it's night with Sookie and Eric, and night again with Jessica and Bill after it. But even if the Pam and Tara scene was supposed to sequentially later, still doesn't explain when Pam and Tara got it on.

 

It's a minor quibble with all the things that could be nitpicked in this show, but it's a good start, I think!

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roctavia

roctavia

Pam and Tara have sex on the beach after Pam's line about fish piss and sand in your cooch.

 

Tara is like fastening her pants when they walk back up to the rest of the group... before Bill summons Jessica.

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roctavia

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Oh. Well. Shows how much I'm paying attention.

 

The daylight thing stands though. >.>

 

I'll have to look at that again, since I don't think it was supposed to be daylight... maybe they had flood lights or something?

 

But certainly there have been plenty of other continuity things that have been missed... Or things that have been left intentionally vague so the writers can hand wave it away later- like the rules on inviting/disinviting a vampire... Bill in S2 says that someone who lives in the house has to invite him, but then in later seasons, Coot invites in Russell, Sarah Newlin kicks Jessica out of Jason's house... So either the writers decided Bill's statement in S2 was too limiting and conveniently "forgot" about that little rule... or there some strange sex clause that if you have sex in a house you suddenly have invite privileges.

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Insomnia

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They also say it's physically impossible to try and come in, yet Eric sticks his arm through Lafayette's window. Then in season 6 Eric, Pam, and Tara all stick their heads in when telling Ginger to invite them in.

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roctavia

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They also say it's physically impossible to try and come in, yet Eric sticks his arm through Lafayette's window. Then in season 6 Eric, Pam, and Tara all stick their heads in when telling Ginger to invite them in.

 

Bill's arm was stopped at the threshold when he was trying to stake Warlow... 

 

I guess how good of a barrier there is depends on the plot needs :P    Warlow didn't need an invite at all, since he was fae and vampire... too bad he was such a loser, he had all the best powers of fae and vampire- strength, healing (can he control his healing? His arm should have healed after he bit himself and moaned on the side of the road to get Sookie's attention), magic blood, but he can also eat food, doesn't need an invite, walking in the sunlight, silver doesn't bother him... The writers didn't need any continuity to write him.

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DollEyes

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Another nitpick: in Season 1, Terry said he couldn't be glamoured, but in Season 6, Arlene got a vamp to glamour Terry into forgetting all the trauma he had gone through during the Iraq War, or so she thought.

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roctavia

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Another nitpick: in Season 1, Terry said he couldn't be glamoured, but in Season 6, Arlene got a vamp to glamour Terry into forgetting all the trauma he had gone through during the Iraq War, or so she thought.

When in S1 did Terry say he couldn't be glamoured? I don't recall that.. and how would he know? Had Terry ever had a run in with a vampire before?

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ParadoxLost

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Soooooo, was it ever explained why Adalyn stopped rapidly aging? At this point it's basically like TPTB said "Oh, ok. She's hot now, so we can keep her this way, right?"

Did they ever explain why Adalyn was rapidly aging in the first place?  If its the fairy blood, then how much is needed to kick that off and is there a rapid ager in Sookie's lineage?

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DollEyes

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When in S1 did Terry say he couldn't be glamoured? I don't recall that...and how would he know? Had Terry ever had a run-in with a vampire before?

 

  IIRC, it was in the episode when Bill gave a speech about the Civil War to Adele's church group and Terry said that because he had a metal plate in his head, he couldn't be glamoured.

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roctavia

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  IIRC, it was in the episode when Bill gave a speech about the Civil War to Adele's church group and Terry said that because he had a metal plate in his head, he couldn't be glamoured.

hmm. Thanks... I'll have to watch for that, since I don't remember that ever coming up...

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roctavia

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Season one- Sookie has flashbacks of her terrible childhood where her mom wonders what's wrong with her. But in season 6 they know she's a fairy and want to kill her so she can't be a fairy vampire bride?

 

 

I think that one makes sense, because they didn't know what she was until Warlow made the dumbest move ever (I mean, come on, was he going to turn an 8 year old? That's fucked up!) and did he ever say anything about Sookie being a fairy, or just that she was special and vampires existed? Then they both died within a matter of days of that happening, so there wasn't a chance for them to suddenly know what she was while Sookie was around to hear it.

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ChlcGirl

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This is stupid but ... one of my big annoyances is how in season 1 it is alluded to that Grandpa Stackhouse is dead.  But then suddenly, there he is in S4 as having been hanging with the fairies for 20 years.  If all they wanted to do was show that time passes very fast in fairyland, could they now have done that another way?

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leocadia

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Great topic!  I am sure there are many more, but it has always bothered me that Bill "releases" Jessica in Season 3 when he finally gets out of Mississippi, but for whatever reason it doesn't take.  It seems to me that the show made it pretty clear with Bill/Lorena and Eric/Pam that all the maker has to do is "say the words" and its a done deal.  Even though Jessica protests after the fact and doesn't end up leaving, it doesn't change the fact that Bill said "As your maker I release you."  If they wanted to maintain that bond (as they clearly use it in the remainder of the seasons) they should have stopped him mid-sentence or at least explained why it didn't work.

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Insomnia

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I think it did work, actually. I think release in this case is having to follow the commands of a maker, not live with them. Bill left as soon as Lorena let him, but Pam stayed around and still obviously deeply cares about Eric. Jessica was an 18 year old baby vamp at that point I think and she didn't exactly have life experience. Bill isn't the type to kick her out of the house.

 

Plus the only time we've seen him say it to her was when she was crawling out to the sun, and he said "As you maker I command you... to let me free too." or something along those lines. Now, you could argue that the witches magic was stronger than the maker and progeny bond, but it's like entering a house, it works when convenient too.

 

Except summoning, because apparently they can still do that whenever.

 

And since Lorena could over-power Bill, why didn't she just summon him after she felt he got it out of his system. Or until he loved her. Because I can so see her doing that. It doesn't matter how often Bill runs away, he'll always come back, he has to.

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roctavia

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I think it did work, actually. I think release in this case is having to follow the commands of a maker, not live with them. Bill left as soon as Lorena let him, but Pam stayed around and still obviously deeply cares about Eric. Jessica was an 18 year old baby vamp at that point I think and she didn't exactly have life experience. Bill isn't the type to kick her out of the house.

 

Plus the only time we've seen him say it to her was when she was crawling out to the sun, and he said "As you maker I command you... to let me free too." or something along those lines. Now, you could argue that the witches magic was stronger than the maker and progeny bond, but it's like entering a house, it works when convenient too.

 

Except summoning, because apparently they can still do that whenever.

 

And since Lorena could over-power Bill, why didn't she just summon him after she felt he got it out of his system. Or until he loved her. Because I can so see her doing that. It doesn't matter how often Bill runs away, he'll always come back, he has to.

 

 

The Jessica/Bill release thing is very unclear... since I think once a maker has released it's progeny, then they can't summon their progeny anymore. That's part of the release, they no longer have the blood ties they used to have. Summoning is like an "As your maker I command you" sort of thing, so it'd make sense that it would be gone with the magic of the release... and why Lorena couldn't summon Bill any longer.

 

Up until Billith summoned Jessica, we could have pretended that the releasing worked but Jessica didn't want to leave.  He said the "as your maker" during the witch spell, but could be complicated by the spell... and he also said it once when he was in the authority and trying to get Jessica to go with the guard people to come to him... so I could see that being more a case of the magic doesn't work, but when I say these words you know I'm serious... like using first-middle names when your kid is misbehaving...

 

Or the writers just are ignoring the releasing thing because it doesn't work with the story now.

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Insomnia

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Yeah but Bilith was able to summon Warlow, and she died. If anything is going to break a bond, you'd think that would. Plus it was just Bill summoning her, not with her reaction to it, so we can't really know for sure on that front as we haven't seen it since.

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whyjen8

whyjen8

Late to this party but I'm binge watching and this sticks out for me.  In season 1 Jason's V-addict girlfriend Amy cuts the blood with aspirin.  She explains that she has had the blood awhile that it is not fresh so it will clot unless she uses the aspirin.  I'm currently on season 5 and clotting has not been an issue for anyone else no matter how long the blood has been in the vial.

 

This just annoys me, why can't a vampire enter a house without being invited but CAN glamour the owner into extending an invite?  Just not fair, if it's a rule then they shouldn't be able to glamour.  Why have that rule if the vampire can easily get an invite?

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Jlay632

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Hi I know this thread seems old but I'm new and have something that's bothering me with this show and am hoping someone else may know the answer!

Okay so Jessica killed 3 of Andys daughters because she couldn't control herself and even later in season 7 when she is protecting the only daughter remaining she still can not stop the urge to almost drain her as well (however she doesn't drain her). 

I just don't understand why she hasn't had this urge with Sookie since she is also half far etc. and has been around sookie ALONE multiple times.. Never once did she think she wouldn't be able to control herself...  

Any insight with this would help! I thought maybe because Sookie was "Bills" but how about after that when she was no longer his? She was still able to be around her like a normal person. 

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Athena

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On 2016-05-08 at 0:42 AM, Jlay632 said:

Hi I know this thread seems old but I'm new and have something that's bothering me with this show and am hoping someone else may know the answer!

Okay so Jessica killed 3 of Andys daughters because she couldn't control herself and even later in season 7 when she is protecting the only daughter remaining she still can not stop the urge to almost drain her as well (however she doesn't drain her). 

I just don't understand why she hasn't had this urge with Sookie since she is also half far etc. and has been around sookie ALONE multiple times.. Never once did she think she wouldn't be able to control herself...  

Any insight with this would help! I thought maybe because Sookie was "Bills" but how about after that when she was no longer his? She was still able to be around her like a normal person. 

Sookie is only partly fae, but not half fae. Her connection to Niall was farther up the line and the Warlow contract (wow, haven't though about in awhile) said that the first fae-bearing female would be his. Sookie won some genetic lottery there, but she was never even half fae. All vampires say she smells good, but most of them can control themselves around her. You may also be right that Bill's claim on her helped any other vampire from harming her.

Andy's daughters were all half fae and the scent of all of them in one spot must have driven Jessica mad. As for the last daughter, that was indeed,  a moment of weakness on Jessica's part since especially she knows what her sisters' blood tasted like.

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