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I just read that PTV will be off-line for most of Thursday when this episode is airing, so I thought I should get this out there now. I hope that's cool.

 

I know, I know, I bitch all. the. time. but it is a landmark that not many shows achieve. For better or worse, I'd still rather watch an hour of Supernatural than most other shows on television.

Congratulations to Jensen, Jared, Misha and the entire cast and crew on 300 episodes.

ETA: See @Cambion's post down thread if you want to chat about the episode while PTV is off line.

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Oh, wow, what a time for them to be down. I don't have high hopes for the episode, but at the same time I'm still looking forward to it. In fact, I may get to watch it live for a change. I'm going to be out of town until the beginning of next week, so I won't get to read or post any commentary about the episode for a few days. But the show is going on hiatus after this, right? So at least it will be the only new episode to talk about for a while.

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I had low expectations for #200, after a number of truly dismal episodes, and it was brilliant. But that was Thompson/Sgriccia. This has the stench of Dabb/Singer, so it's hard to imagine it not sucking and sending me into a deep depression. I guess at this point I should just be happy it's not another backdoor pilot.

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Congrats to the entire cast and crew!  It is quite a milestone.  I shall remain optimistic about the episode until it airs.  I'm expecting quite the emotional ride, if nothing else.  Not sure I'll be able to watch live yet, and my sources for viewing without commercials the next day appear to be drying up.  Amazon doesn't have the show now and Google Play hasn't yet uploaded last week's episode, so I have no idea what's going on there.  It is annoying, to say the least.  Not sure why Warner Bros. would choose to do this right in the middle of the season, but maybe they feel it gives them a bit more leverage because people will be complaining.  It doesn't appear to be working, however.

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8 hours ago, MysteryGuest said:

Not sure I'll be able to watch live yet, and my sources for viewing without commercials the next day appear to be drying up.  Amazon doesn't have the show now and Google Play hasn't yet uploaded last week's episode, so I have no idea what's going on there.  It is annoying, to say the least. 

Yeah, I don't have any of those services, because my cable is expensive enough, so I generally have to watch with commercials***, however our On Demand is pretty quick for quite a few channels. The episodes go up by 2 AM the same night/morning the episode airs.

*** At least until a couple weeks after the episode... after that, I guess they don't care and the commercials seem to mostly go away.

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I have recently subscribed to the Rogers IGNITE (Canada).  And really like it.  I especially like the option to 'restart' a show if you've - say - missed the first ten minutes.

I watch live and record and then get the season blu-ray as a Christmas prezzie.  I have every season except 12.  Although when the show truly does end I'm sure they'll come out with a fantastic boxed set with all kinds of scrumptious extras.

There's never quite been a show like this. And after all this time it's still the two leads that carry all the weight.  The Vampire Diaries was ok for 3 seasons but then they had to bring in a whole bunch of extra characters to prop up the Salvatore brothers - who'd become tiresome and repetitive by then.

Not the Winchesters, tho...

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23 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I just read that PTV will be off-line for most of Thursday when this episode is airing, so I thought I should get this out there now. I hope that's cool.

 

I know, I know, I bitch all. the. time. but it is a landmark that not many shows achieve. For better or worse, I'd still rather watch an hour of Supernatural than most other shows on television.

Congratulations to Jensen, Jared, Misha and the entire cast and crew on 300 episodes.

Same I may bitch about the show but I am so proud of them, this is such an amazing achievement.

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If y'all would be interested, there is a way we can have a private chat room that you won't have to register for.  If anyone is interested in doing this at a little after say, 8 pm Pacific Time when the last time slot is done, I'd be happy to set this up and provide the url.  This would be through hack.chat (in case you'd like to check it out before hand), so it's a disposable web chat room.  Since it's in a browser it should be usable from phones and tablets as well as computers and will work for any OS format.

 

If there's anyone else who'd like to do this, I"m happy to set it up.  Cause I'd like to have a chance to chat afterwards, too.  So, like this post, or answer, and if there are a few people interested I'll put in a url that we can use tomorrow night.

Cheers!  

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5 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I'm Eastern time but I'll likely still be around by 11 pm :)

ETA: If you want I'll edit the thread title so more people may see this.

That would be great.  We could start earlier, but I don't want to spoil for people who will see it later in the west.  Also, hack.chat doesn't allow for logging, but the chat can be saved through copy and paste, so if anyone misses and still wants to see what is discussed, I'll copy it and save it in an anonymous google drive.  Could paste it here as well?  (also,would be good if those participating used the samevnicknames as they use here.)

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52 minutes ago, Cambion said:

Okay, here is the url  https://hack.chat/?SPN300   I'll open it up about 8pm Pacific time.  Please join if you'd like and use your PTV handle so we'll know who everyone is.

 

Looking forward to the ep and chatting with all of you!

It’s asking for a ‘nickname’.  What do we type?

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Cambion, thanks for setting this up.  The timing of the board shutdown is certainly inconvenient, but what are you gonna do.  Not sure this East Coaster will still be up at 11:00 to chat, but I just wanted to thank you for thinking of an alternate solution.

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46 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Cambion, thanks for setting this up.  The timing of the board shutdown is certainly inconvenient, but what are you gonna do.  Not sure this East Coaster will still be up at 11:00 to chat, but I just wanted to thank you for thinking of an alternate solution.

East coasters could go in earlier, I only ask someone copy and paste what was said so that us prairie dogs, mountain goats and left coasters can share it!  

 

And everyone, don't join until you've seen it to avoid spoilers!!

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Everyone, it was great to chat with you all in real time last night!  

I wasn't able to get everything, but Ithink at least one other person got part of the conversation(s) last night.  Here is a copypasta of what I did get.

Users online: Aeryn13, SueB, IloveReading, res, Cambion
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Cambion
And I really liked that John remembered at the end, even though he thought it was a dream.
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It was just okay for me. Typical Sam- worshipping Dabb. Pissed he killed Zachariah. It actually felt like a personal screw you from Dabb to the Dean fans. 
gonzosgirrl
Cooule of fun moments, but underwhelming on the whole. 
Cambion
Are you pissed that Sam killed Zachariah or that Zachariah was killed?
gonzosgirrl
The first
Cambion
ah, okay.  
gonzosgirrl
They just keep chipping away at all Dean's iconic monents and arcs
gonzosgirrl
Meh
Cambion
I didn't really think zach was gonna last long but that was like a cameo.  lol
gonzosgirrl
Just ling rnough to give Sam the kill. I hate Dabb for that
gonzosgirrl
Long enough lol
Cambion
ah.  Well, at least he's consistent. 😞
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And of course AU Sam is a lawyer, Dean is a criminal 
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Its just all so predictable 
ahrtee
Kind of underwhelming.
gonzosgirrl
Lol my word exactly arhtee
ahrtee
Just joined in and can't see earlier posts.
gonzosgirrl
Predictable from Dabb
ahrtee
No, not really offensive.  Just boring.
gonzosgirrl
Lol it was just me rsnting4
gonzosgirrl
The Zach thing. Grrrr
gonzosgirrl
One more thing taken from Dean
ahrtee
Well, it was undone so it never happened. 🙂
Cambion
no you can't see the earlier stuff,that's why I was asking for people to copy past.  I missed some because I got kicked.  So, I guess copy and past from where you come in and we'll lookk at them all in posts tomorrow.  Someone else got some of the earlier stuff.
Aeryn13
Where the hell did Dean get any closure with John in this? Nothing really meaty about them was addressed.
Cambion
What would you have liked to see?
PinkChicken
I havent actually watched yet lol but I was curious and cant help spoiling myself
ahrtee
I kept waiting for Sam to say "no, I forgive you, and I understand, but you really need to apologize to Dean."  Hah.
PinkChicken
😞
gonzosgirrl
Lol I can see why Jared was so enthusiastic, Tweeting all day.
Cambion
lol  I just figured he had the day off and was bored...
Aeryn13
It was more Sam-leaning/worshipping. As is Dabb's want.
Cambion
Pink   swatchseries.to   has the episode up.
gonzosgirrl
Hiw about a real plot twist: Dean is a teacher and Sam is a douchey criminal 
Cambion
Well, you knew that was going tohappen.
gonzosgirrl
Jared knows exactly what hes 
Cambion
Good one.  Dean wouldhave to be one ofthose inner school tough love kind of teachers.
gonzosgirrl
Doing 
PinkChicken
Im still trapped at uni for 2 hours. they wont let us through their wifi
ahrtee
Nobody addressed the fact that if it was all going to be undone and returned to the moment it changed, John could have stayed there for years and then returned.
ahrtee
Maybe Sam and Dean could have gotten another baby sibling! 
PinkChicken
haha people on twitter already acting surprised that Adam wasnt mentioned
Cambion
Wait, wasn't that what Sam was talking about -- the timeline self correcting?
gonzosgirrl
Mary was completely unbelievable.  Not the woman they've written the past two years 
gonzosgirrl
I am the biggest sap for a tearjerker and it left me cold 
ahrtee
I guess they're all used to unexpected resurrections these days, and only get a blink.
Cambion
They haven't mentioned Adam in forever.  Why would they start now?  I felt like he was just a stand in so they didn't have to put Michael into Dean back then.
ahrtee
Well, they mentioned Adam in ep. 200.  Maybe once every hundred eps or so?
Cambion
lol
PinkChicken
haha
gonzosgirrl
Jake Abel had the tweet of the day lol
ahrtee
?
Cambion
yeah, I didn't  see that.  I didn't spend too much time watching twitter.
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https://twitter.com/MrJakeAbel/status/1093639809514405888?s=19
gonzosgirrl
It was in response to Jared
Cambion
lol

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To Myrelle and late joiners:  consensus, underwhelming.  No closure for Dean.  
gonzosgirrl
More like a love letter to Sam
gonzosgirrl
Sorry, that's how I feel 
ahrtee
Love letter to John.  Everyone loved/forgave him and he didn't have to apologize for anything.
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gonzosgirrl
I wish so much that the show wouldn't end under Dabb.
myrelle
Definitely underwhelming. It's just so clear that Dabb has no interest whatsoever in writing for Dean or Jensen.
PinkChicken
tbh i was pretty much expecting fluff that ignored anything too complicated
gonzosgirrl
Yeah that too arhtee

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ahrtee
JDM said that he wanted to clear John's reputation.  He did that by having everyone ignore it.
gonzosgirrl
I don't think its coincidence that there was one obligatory tweet from Jensen, whike 
myrelle
It was exactly what I expected. Bringing back John was just a gimmick for the 300th. so true, ahrtee,
gonzosgirrl
Whike Jared was all over Twitter and Facebook for days
gonzosgirrl
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ahrtee
I wouldn't mind bringing John in as a gimmick if it made sense/had any emotional resonance.  But no.
myrelle
Jensen did what he could, as usual and I'm sure that Glynn wrote his material
gonzosgirrl
But the old lady in the post office likes Dean. What more do you want?
myrelle
Nothing really got to me, except his flinch when the pearl was crushed and his face when John was hugging him good-bye
gonzosgirrl
I could not get emotional about John when it was just so much bs revisionist history
ahrtee
And unnecessary.  And illogical.
gonzosgirrl
Me2 myrelle
gonzosgirrl
https://twitter.com/clarissa373/status/1093712636653404160?s=19
gonzosgirrl
Wtf Dabb?

ahrtee
The only thing I got out of the final scene was that John (finally) answered one of Dean's phonecalls, and (maybe) he had been about to take off and leave him entirely but decided to go back.  At least until 2005, because everything else had to happen.
ahrtee
That's being kind.
ahrtee
I mean it's a kind interpretation.  I don't think it's true.
myrelle
Dabb is delusional.
ahrtee
Dabb is a comic-book writer.  His characters are 2-dimensional.  
gonzosgirrl
And he carried his SamBoy comicbook tendencies into the mothership 
ahrtee
I think he doesn't understand 3-D.  Everyone has one basic characteristic and he sticks to it.
myrelle
I thought that John and Dean seemed more like equals during their brief one on one interaction and when they talked about John having to go back, but when John tried to get personal it almost seemed as if Dean finally understood that his father never had a clue about who Dean ever was at his core and I think that's part of what that exchange with Sam was all about while they were doing the dishes.  
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That's a good interpretation myrelle
myrelle
I found it interesting that Dean even seemed a little annoyed with John thinking that he would even entertain the thought of a "normal" life
Cambion
That all makes good sense myrelle.
Cambion
going back a little because I was afk and just catching up now:  what is the background on Jensen not tweeting?  Has he done a lot in the past and slowed down now?
gonzosgirrl
Are we to believe they told him that Michael is in Dean right now? I kniw he summed up the Lucifer's kid thing, but its crazy if he knew about Michael and didnt even talk about trying to save Dean 
gonzosgirrl
It's not a pattern Cambion
gonzosgirrl
But this is a pretty big deal episode and.... nothing?
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ahrtee
They didn't really try to save anyone but Mary.  That's the reason they decided John had to go back. *sigh*  And why didn't she disappear at the same time the other changes  happened?
gonzosgirrl
While Jared and Misha have been Tweeting and Facebooking for two days?
Cambion
Ah,, I see.  I just haven't noticed a lot of social media from him compared to many of the other actors.
gonzosgirrl
He has with episodes brforer
gonzosgirrl
Before
Cambion
Yeah, I thought John might have glommed onto the Michael thing, too, but I thought at the end that they were deliberately giving the Michael angst a rest this ep. 
gonzosgirrl
Jared doesn't normally tweet much show related either 
ahrtee
It looks like Jared wasn't tweeting on this ep in particular, just celebrating the past 13 years.
Cambion
Yeah, that's what I meant.  Did he do this on episodes before and that's why it was so noticable now.
gonzosgirrl
Unless it's Samcentric 
gonzosgirrl
Not trying to convince you
gonzosgirrl
This is a landmark, regardless of history 
Cambion
no, Iunderstand, I am just trying to see where you're coming from. 
gonzosgirrl
And its odd that there's nothing 
Cambion
yeah.  I see what you mean.
myrelle
It didn't seem like they told him about Michael in Dean's head and if they did it's even worse because it was so pointedly ignored.
Cambion
Well, I thought that Sam as the Kale Guru was a perfect jab.  lol
gonzosgirrl
Anyhow that's enough bitching for me, lol. Night folks.
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Cambion
Yeah, I don't remember them talking about that with John, but I'm going to need some rewatches to catch everything.
Cambion
Night Gonzo.
myrelle
I was also left wondering if Mary knows about Adam.
Cambion
I doubt she does.  
gonzosgirrl
Yeah Sam's a healthy genius 
gonzosgirrl
Dean's a criminsl
Cambion
well, I'd rather be a criminalthan a douchebag health idiot, but that's just me.
gonzosgirrl
That's the kind of 'insult ' Sam usually gets
gonzosgirrl
Too smart, too tall, too respectable 
gonzosgirrl
Dean's too dumb, too sloppy,  too horny, etc
ahrtee
And too needy.
gonzosgirrl
Uhh huh
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Because he can't live without his brother, and that's why he's going to lock himself up...um...
gonzosgirrl
It's no surprise the Sam girls love the episode and the Dean fans are meh
gonzosgirrl
I would live to ge a Sam fan ... it's a lot easier lol
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Cambion
Well, he can't live  without his brother because he's been programmed that way and because Sam is the only one to have ever shown him an ounce of love.
gonzosgirrl
Holy crap i can't type
sarthaz
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Cambion
Not okay?
sarthaz
Sorry, not literally. Just finished the episode. Emotional wreck
Cambion
yeah, some heart ache for me, too, but I'm still new to the show and  the shine is still bright
Cambion
Any high or low points you want to share?
sarthaz
When John realizes Mary is alive. JDM was brilliant. At that moment, I lost my shit and I never regained it.
Cambion
ah, yeah, the  look on his face was really something.  Could really see his disbelif give way to happiness
ahrtee
I might have had a more emotional reaction if they hadn't spoiled so much.  And I usually like spoilers.
sarthaz
Really the only things I knew were JDM and Kurt Fuller appearing. I avoided everything else.
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yeah, it kept the excitement high, but I watched all the spoilery stuff and feel like I went in with more knowledge than I would have liked.  I'm going to have to reform my ways.
ahrtee
Yeah, they showed the John/Mary reunion scene in advance.  That kind of killed the excitement for me.
sarthaz
Yeah, I avoid all that stuff. I don't know why people want to know spoilers
Cambion
yeah, that's one I'd have rather not seen  screwed myself on that one  lol
ahrtee
I love spoilers.  When I was a kid I used to write whole eps in my head based on the "coming attractions."  But they were supposed to make you want to watch, not show everything that happened. 😞
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welp......
Cambion
Ahrtee, yeah, too often  that is true now a days
Cambion
Welp, what did you think catrox?
Cambion
btw,  I've been saving this, I did miss a section when I got kicked off awhile back, but I will post this on the forums when they are back up
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Bergamot
They are now saying it won't be until at least tomorrow evening for the forum to come back up.
Cambion
yikes  
Cambion
great timing for us
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sarthaz
We probably would have broken the forum tonight anyway
Cambion
ha!
AwesomO4000
Hey everyone! Just dropped by mostly to say hello.
Cambion
Hello!!!
PinkChicken
hey
sarthaz
Bitch
AwesomO4000
Jerk
Bergamot
It's weird to me how they don't seem to check anymore, with silver or holy water, when someone returns from the dead. It's John -- hooray, Dad's back. And Mary just falls into a kiss when she sees John without a single question.
Cambion
good point
AwesomO4000
Yes good point
sarthaz
Mary has silver in her lipstick and drinks holy water throughout the day. NEXT!
AwesomO4000
Hee! I would not have guessed that he car napping was going to be one of the town teens.
Bergamot
Also, it shouldn't bother me, but it does, that the actor looked so different. That 2003 John looked older than 2005 John. It made it hard for me to accept him as 2003 John.
Cambion
hmmm  that would make a good bit of plot in the future..."The Story of how Something got in to the Bunker and we all have to go back to Hunter's Hogwarts".
Cambion
yeah on the car napping.  someone mentioned maybe it was John, I kind of expected that.
ahrtee
Dean and Sam have their own Scooby gang now.
sarthaz
John gained weight from 2003-2005 and that made him look younger. NEXT!
AwesomO4000
hee - you're on a roll!
Cambion
yeah, I really thought about that, too,but I figured that was one of those suspend disbelief moments and just roll with it.  Cause I think they'd have written themselves into a corner if they tried to  explain it
Cambion
Their own Scooby gang  hee
AwesomO4000
I really wanted to see what that creepy old teddy bear was gonna do... they kept teasing us with it.
Cambion
oh, I know!  Why did it look like it's mouth was sewn shut?
Cambion
And the look Dean gave Sam when he picked it up.  
ahrtee
They left all that stuff in the back seat?  Not even in the trunk?
AwesomO4000
Sam was intrigued for some reason, too, like he knew it had that key thing and what it might do.
Cambion
Oh yeah the string in the back?  And ahrtee, I know!  Back to hunter's school for you.
AwesomO4000
Hopefully Garth isn't still in the trunk :: joke ::
Cambion
well,maybe that's why they had to put the stuff in the back seat....hmmmm
AwesomO4000
(I did forget where Garth is now however)
catrox14
I was underwhelmed and pissed.
PinkChicken
its a big trunk lol
ahrtee
And Garth is pretty small.
AwesomO4000
hee!
PinkChicken
they didnt say, dungeon or back to normal and gone once michael was locked in?
catrox14
@ahrtee, plot contrivance stupidity
catrox14
Mary is still on my poop list
AwesomO4000
Well, the town kids were talking about noise from the trunk... oh I hope poor Garth isn't still in there = hee
ahrtee
Catrox, "underwhelmed" got used quite a bit here.
Cambion
indeed
AwesomO4000
Thanks, PinkChicken - I thought it was just me forgetting
catrox14
They wasted so much time on the stupid teenagers.  
catrox14
They could have gotten to John's return like in the first 5 minutes.  
AwesomO4000
I liked the beginning more than the end. I thought the set up was pretty clever, and better than I expected concerning the townspeople.
catrox14
Dean telling John he loved him, just fuels my ongoing spec that Dean is gonna die for real
Bergamot
It seemed to me like two different episodes awkwardly fastened together, with the town stuff and the John stuff. Not exactly seamless.
AwesomO4000
(I liked the stupid teenagers.)
Cambion
You don't think it was just that he got the chance to say it because he never had?
AwesomO4000
agreed Bergamont
Cambion
(the teenagers were kind of fun for me)
sarthaz
I think they were trying to do a nod to the fans with the teenagers, like The Real Ghostbusters or Fan Fiction, but Dabb's not a good enough writer, so it fell flat
catrox14
Bergamot, YES, exactly. It felt wildly disjointed and IMO robbed much of the emotional appeal of the reunion
ahrtee
I wouldn't have had a problem with the teens (other than stupidity) in any other ep.  It just didn't fit with this particular ep, and took time and attention away from what the real story should have been, which is the Winchester Family reunion.  
Bergamot
I have to say that I thought it was odd, the way that Dean and Sam casually went out grocery shopping shortly after their father had returned from the dead. If that happened to me, I wouldn't leave his side for days.
Cambion
Well, I gotta roll.  I've copied to here.  If anyone else wants to copy and save what comes next to share on the boards when they are back up.
Bergamot
Of course, I'm not a Winchester.
catrox14
Cambion, I think that might be true, but Dean has so far told Sam he loved him, in a sneaky way. and now John. There is little that will dissuade my spec about Dean. LOL
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Cambion
gotch catrox, I'm not arguing with anyone, just have seen you guys refer to these things in your posts and now I have a chance to ask and see where you're coming from on them.  That's all.

Bergamot
I did like some of the stuff in the town. Not the teenagers though. They were too cliched.
Cambion
Well good night guys  it was great to talk to you in real time!
catrox14
No worries, Cambion.  My spec started back with Regarding Dean and the closing homage and song. And since then I see them morphing Sam into Dean in many ways. It's just a lot of things. 
sarthaz
Carry on, Cambion
Cambion
oh yeah  I know the one you mean
Cambion
hmmm
Cambion
thanks sarthaz!
catrox14
Have a good night, Cambion! and thanks for creating this chat for us!
ahrtee
Goodnight!
Cambion
you bet!  I have to take care of my peeps!
 

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44 minutes ago, PinkChicken said:

Only because this site was offline when the ep aired; courtesy Cambion. It was kinda nice having a real-time chat for once.

Do we continue the conversation here or should we make an episode thread using the S14 E13 label format?

You should make an episode thread.

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