Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)

[Danny Franks]

This discussion highlights one of the problems with comics being translated to the big screen - honouring canon. 

I don't consider Zendaya's character to be the Mary Jane Watson that I used to read in the comics. She's not. She's completely different. She's a new character and that's fine by me. Why bother doing MJ again? Why bother doing Gwen again? Previous movies did those characters already, with varying degrees of success. Giving her that name was probably a bad idea, because it caused this level of confusion, but I agree that it was just a nod to the comic book character and a twist to let the audience know that she was going to be important to Peter.

This entire Spider-Man franchise is a departure from the comics, and it's been refreshing for that. We get Peter, we get Aunt May and we get some villains, and everything else has been fair game for reinterpretation. I think it's cool that Marvel were willing to be a little daring and creative in a way that Sony had proved incapable of in their previous versions of the character.

They skipped his origin completely. They barely mention Uncle Ben or Peter's tragic parents. They give him Tony Stark as a mentor right off the bat. They put him in the Avengers as a teenager (Spider-Man was famously never an Avenger until Brian Michael Bendis got to write the book in the mid-2000s). They make him the heir to Stark Enterprises. They completely reinterpret his rogues gallery - Vulture and Mysterio were both very different from their comic book origins. And, last but not least, they reveal his identity (something Marvel comics only did with Civil War, then undid later).

[Kel Varnsen]

32 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:

don't consider Zendaya's character to be the Mary Jane Watson that I used to read in the comics. She's not. She's completely different. She's a new character and that's fine by me. Why bother doing MJ again? Why bother doing Gwen again? Previous movies did those characters already, with varying degrees of success. Giving her that name was probably a bad idea, because it caused this level of confusion, but I agree that it was just a nod to the comic book character and a twist to let the audience know that she was going to be important to Peter.

That is sort of where I am at, she is a new character. Peter in the MCU also doesn't have a close friend named Harry. It doesn't matter to me as long as the stories are good. Although I would find it a hilarious level of trolling if the Spiderman writers decided that her character's name was Michelle June (MJ) Stacey.

[Lantern7]

Compilation of Robot Chicken sketches. I cued it to a bit goofing on Nick Fury’s entrance in NWH.

[aghst]

Watched this back to back with Homecoming.

This is certainly not your father’s Spider-Man.

Nor for that matter, it’s not the Spider-Man of my youth either.

I didn’t mind the Disney MCU treatment of Homecoming but in this one, it’s overbearing.  I see some cynical attempt to jam this character into the Disney MCU, which ties with so many other very high budget movies of both the past and the future.

It seems like cross promotion or serving as a commercial for other MCU movies is one of the main goals.

For instance, the traditional Spider-Man villains are nowhere in sight.  Instead they’re imported from other Disney MCU properties.  Stark underlings who want to use Stark tech to take over the world?

Oh a network of satellites which can send swarms of killer drones to anywhere in the world and destroyed iconic London sights?  That should be the biggest scandal and cause of outrage.  
 

‘Now the Spidey suit is this high tech AI-driven system which allows Peter to show his face more often.  Yeah they want to show the actors face, to show him emote.

He does use the “tingle” to finally defeat Quentin but after he reconfigured the suit and had nanobots weave him a new one from scratch.  

The OG Spider-Man, his Spidey sense was one of his key advantages.  But now he’s got AI, killer satellites and morphing tech.

Maybe he’s learning to use the “tingle” because they have his temperament as the aww shucks teen superhero just wanting to ask out a girl.

Of course these days, high school kids would be more jaded — kid like Peter would be gaslighting girls like MJ into sexting with him, not trying to have a first kiss in some special place.

Well the next movie he should be out of high school?

As far as Zendaya, she’s talented actress, better performance here than in Euphoria.  In the comics books, the men were all ripped and the women voluptuous.  I remember thinking that the body types in all superhero comics were ridiculous.