Little House On The Prairie - General Discussion

[Zella]

20 minutes ago, Snow Apple said:

In the book, Mary talked about liking her teachers and fellow students. She even spent a summer break with her friend Blanche. Too bad there was no cute teacher to marry in real life. I wonder why she never married? I thought the point of going to school was learning to handle skills like homemaking.

Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of men at that time and place would have given her a second look after finding out she was blind. 

[Blergh]

15 hours ago, Zella said:

There's also a really gross moment played for laughs where Charles says all boys try to get a peek at the swimming hole, and Harriet protests nobody did that to her, and Nels has some flippant comment. Like you're supposed to be flattered that boys are peeping toms, and when they don't do that to you, they're showing good taste. 

That was wrong for SO many reasons. One, one would think that Charles ,being the father of four girls, would have been furious at the idea of girls getting gawked at merely for changing their clothes. Secondly, the plot of 'My Ellen' (Season Four) of the drowned friend's mother becoming totally unhinged after her daughter's tragic and needless death had happened right after her daughter and the Ingalls girls had ducked under water while skinny dipping when they saw they were being spied on by boys. Thirdly, Laura herself had caught Willie (!)[ what was ML thinking here re these RL sibs?) peeping at her getting changed in Oleson's Mercantile when she was trying on grown-up clothes and did NOT shrug it off but did her best to make sure he'd be punished  so why would she have shrugged it off him doing the  very same thing to another girl. Lastly, I think a more appropriate response would have been 'yes, teen boys may WANT to peep at girls and women in unclothed states but it's our responsibility as parents and adults to make sure they know from the start that actually doing so is  wrong because it is unfair, intrusive and upsetting to girls and women and that there will be consequences for that action  if they do this  .' 

[debraran]

1 hour ago, Blergh said:

That was wrong for SO many reasons. One, one would think that Charles ,being the father of four girls, would have been furious at the idea of girls getting gawked at merely for changing their clothes. Secondly, the plot of 'My Ellen' (Season Four) of the drowned friend's mother becoming totally unhinged after her daughter's tragic and needless death had happened right after her daughter and the Ingalls girls had ducked under water while skinny dipping when they saw they were being spied on by boys. Thirdly, Laura herself had caught Willie (!)[ what was ML thinking here re these RL sibs?) peeping at her getting changed in Oleson's Mercantile when she was trying on grown-up clothes and did NOT shrug it off but did her best to make sure he'd be punished  so why would she have shrugged it off him doing the  very same thing to another girl. Lastly, I think a more appropriate response would have been 'yes, teen boys may WANT to peep at girls and women in unclothed states but it's our responsibility as parents and adults to make sure they know from the start that actually doing so is  wrong because it is unfair, intrusive and upsetting to girls and women and that there will be consequences for that action  if they do this  .' 

I agree, wrong on many levels. Back in the 70's, my dad would see a box or something outside of our only bathroom window and try to catch anyone doing it. He did once and the kid ran like hell but with blinds, most of the time they were hoping for a miracle with 3 girls. I heard a neighbor say to my dad, "Boys will be boys" and my dad who was always quiet, getting very angry. His dad in the 30's and 1940's didn't think that behavior was okay. It's not always the "time" but teaching respect.

8 hours ago, Zella said:

Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of men at that time and place would have given her a second look after finding out she was blind. 

Probably true, she couldn't do a lot of things safely another woman could but with Adam, they could have adopted a child who didn't have a home to go too. I'm sure interracial adoption would be banned as it was much later, but Michael could have done some corny show about any adoption. Giving Adam his sight back, I understand MSA saying it was a "soap" now. Better for him but not Mary. If she adopted, this way he wouldn't feel compelled to have her keep losing her children the writers felt she couldn't raise. I know Mary didn't, but hey she didn't marry Adam or have such a colorful life either.

Edited February 24, 2021 by debraran

[Blergh]

13 hours ago, Snow Apple said:

In the book, Mary talked about liking her teachers and fellow students. She even spent a summer break with her friend Blanche. Too bad there was no cute teacher to marry in real life. I wonder why she never married? I thought the point of going to school was learning to handle skills like homemaking.

That's a good question. I never heard of any hint that RL Mary had had any suitors much less serious love interests even from the time before she lost her sight ( contrary to the show's character who seemed to attract boys like bees to honey) . Of course, if there had been any potential fiances, it's not that hard to imagine that Caroline and Charles might have outrightly forbidden any marriages from happening due to her blindness and that, being far more dependent on them than she would have been had she been sighted as well as never having been recorded as having attempted to defy any of their edicts, she wouldn't have done more than quiet albeit sadly accepted their edict (even though at age 21, she legally could have married any single man she wanted without their permission). BTW, it seems that Helen Keller did have a romance with a male teacher in her early 20's but that her widowed mother as well as Annie Sullivan nipped that in the bud before any possible engagement or marriage happened.

[jason88cubs]

I always thought it was interesting for Charles to be talke ddown to by his boss in Winoka You could tell it hurt him to me treated like  a dog in front of his wife

[bunnyblue]

On 2/22/2021 at 6:47 AM, jird said:

I think I was 10 or so when it aired, and until I was an adult I thought the guy in the mask was her dad. The whole thing was very confusing for me.

 

On 2/23/2021 at 8:49 AM, Wonkabar5 said:

I’m another one who had not realized Sylvia had died. I  just thought she was tired and went “to sleep.”

Count me in as someone who thought Sylvia's rapist was her father and that she just closed her eyes to take a nap. In my defense, I was just a kid who didn't always understand what was happening on LHOTP.

[Zella]

I met Nancy for the first time last night. I'm not looking forward to the fact that she's in more episodes. I also watched the first Young Michael Bluth episode a few days ago. I'm not entirely sure the reasoning in adding more kids except maybe they thought all the preexisting kids were getting too old and they needed some new fresh blood?

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

It's a standard tv trope to add new kids to an old show. It's a good sign that the show is long in the tooth. 

I know you've been watching these for the first time, and I'm sorry to say that it's well past its peak. There are a few decent episodes, but for the most part, Season 8 is pretty bad and Season 9 is worse. 

[Zella]

7 minutes ago, Superclam said:

 

I know you've been watching these for the first time, and I'm sorry to say that it's well past its peak. There are a few decent episodes, but for the most part, Season 8 is pretty bad and Season 9 is worse. 

This is what I'd feared. I've felt like it's definitely been on a downward spiral after the first few seasons, though even season 7 still had some pretty good episodes in the mix. TBH, I'm kind of here for the trainwreck quality. I want to see how crazy it gets. I may regret this decision. 

[Mr. Sparkle]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

TBH, I'm kind of here for the trainwreck quality. I want to see how crazy it gets. I may regret this decision. 

I will just say this: the orangutan episode isn't the worst one. 

Edited February 27, 2021 by Superclam

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, Superclam said:

I will just say this: the orangutan episode isn't the worst one. 

Oh you have my attention. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I scrambled to the internet to see how far away this is--looks like I'll be waiting a little while before I get to experience this--but the first sentence of the episode summary in Wikipedia is cracking me up:

"Mr. Edwards promises to care for a dying traveler's 'baby,' only to discover it to be an orangutan named Blanche, which makes quick friends with everyone except Nancy, who tries to swat the animal, only for it to fight back."

 

[Snow Apple]

I think the highlight of the later seasons is when Nellie returns and Willie's wedding. I hardly watch the rest and just wait it out until the pilot loops back.

[Tamiele]

On 2/5/2021 at 3:01 PM, alexa said:
 

I feel very on the opposite side of things these days, lol—  I have always loved Dean Butler as Almanzo, and loved his interactions on the show.  

You are not alone!!  I fell in love with him.  I still feel that way when I watch reruns.  Always felt MG didn’t measure up to him, in looks or appeal.  

[Tamiele]

Does anyone know where a person could view any of the 3 specials that aired after Little House TV series was cancelled?  I’d love to rewatch those. 

[Mr. Sparkle]

Amazon Prime has all the episode, with brief commercials. UPTv shows those episodes when they're finished with the regular seasons. 

[debraran]

20 minutes ago, Superclam said:

Amazon Prime has all the episode, with brief commercials. UPTv shows those episodes when they're finished with the regular seasons. 

I didn't think Prime had the movies anymore. I know they have all the seasons though. Good to know but I wouldn't personally want to watch them again.

Edited March 1, 2021 by debraran

[Mr. Sparkle]

5 minutes ago, debraran said:

I didn't think Prime had the movies anymore. I know they have all the seasons though. Good to know but I wouldn't personally want to watch them again.

No, you are correct, they don't have those movies. I've never actually seen "God Bless the Children" or whatever it's called. The Albert one is meh, and I can skip the blow up the town one. 

[Mr. Sparkle]

1 hour ago, Tamiele said:

Does anyone know where a person could view any of the 3 specials that aired after Little House TV series was cancelled?  I’d love to rewatch those. 

Looks like you can watch them on Peacock with a paid subscription. 

[die Frau]

I just saw the Granville Whipple Episode for the first time in over a decade. It was better than I remembered, but also shorter. The version I watched did not include him having any nightmares. It was sort of okay, since I (vaguely) remember them being creepy. Still, it seems like an important detail to leave out.

Also: I did see him scolding Mary for writing 8th notes incorrectly. Is that the only time he was less-than-nice to her or was there more? She told Pa that Granville "never wanted to see her again," and I wasn't sure if she was being melodramatic or if another scene got cut.

 

[debraran]

21 minutes ago, die Frau said:

I just saw the Granville Whipple Episode for the first time in over a decade. It was better than I remembered, but also shorter. The version I watched did not include him having any nightmares. It was sort of okay, since I (vaguely) remember them being creepy. Still, it seems like an important detail to leave out.

Also: I did see him scolding Mary for writing 8th notes incorrectly. Is that the only time he was less-than-nice to her or was there more? She told Pa that Granville "never wanted to see her again," and I wasn't sure if she was being melodramatic or if another scene got cut.

 

On prime I don’t think it’s cut, with long commercials they cut a lot 

[BigBingerBro]

The Garinville Whipple episode it one of my favorites.  I don't know if I'm dumb or a victim of syndication edits, but I don't really understand how he died at the end.  Did he get high on the morphine and fall out of a tree?  I know Charles discovers him with the morphine papers in his hand and he appears to be under a tree branch......  Is there more to it?

[debraran]

15 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

The Garinville Whipple episode it one of my favorites.  I don't know if I'm dumb or a victim of syndication edits, but I don't really understand how he died at the end.  Did he get high on the morphine and fall out of a tree?  I know Charles discovers him with the morphine papers in his hand and he appears to be under a tree branch......  Is there more to it?

He died of an overdose. The tree I don’t think was on him, I felt next to him.  Sad show but those demons are very real and I’m sure not talked about back then. I felt if he hung himself you’d see the rope 

Edited March 1, 2021 by debraran

[Mr. Sparkle]

43 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

The Garinville Whipple episode it one of my favorites.  I don't know if I'm dumb or a victim of syndication edits, but I don't really understand how he died at the end.  Did he get high on the morphine and fall out of a tree?  I know Charles discovers him with the morphine papers in his hand and he appears to be under a tree branch......  Is there more to it?

I've always found it vague if he died of an overdose, or if he had an accident with his carriage. Either way, morPHINE was involved. 

That is one of the better episode, IMO, and pretty creepy at times. I usually don't think of Richard Mulligan as anything more than a goofy comic from Soap or that later show he was on, but he showed acting chops here. 

1 hour ago, die Frau said:

Also: I did see him scolding Mary for writing 8th notes incorrectly. Is that the only time he was less-than-nice to her or was there more? She told Pa that Granville "never wanted to see her again," and I wasn't sure if she was being melodramatic or if another scene got cut.

I don't remember another scene. Melodrama was never in short supply on this show. 

[Blergh]

Of course, her dealing with Granville was the only time any kind of a background story for Mrs. Whipple got done.  She evidently was a widow and her husband had been prosperous enough to leave her a rather fancy, albeit cozy cottage with furnishings almost as grand as the Olesons' but in better taste- yet Mrs. Whipple didn't seem to have a great deal of liquid assets at hand because why else would she have been earning her living taking in others' sewing (especially since virtually all Walnut Grove women knew how to sew - even Mrs. Oleson once complained about having to darn Nels's socks).  And yet Granville returned expecting his aged mother to support him!

There also was the one-shot duo of the fallen soldier's mother and son who lived in Walnut Grove. It seemed that the soldier's father and wife had died (the latter perhaps in childbirth?) but whether they had their own farm and how they were earning their living never got addressed. Also, it seemed odd that the fallen soldier's mother hadn't connected with Mrs. Whipple herself in all the time either had lived in Walnut Grove despite both of them having had sons who had been in the very same unit. 

[Zella]

Add me as another one who was confused about what happened to Granville at the end. I couldn't figure out if he accidentally OD'd, if he committed suicide via morphine, or if he had an accident with the carriage while high. 

[jird]

1 minute ago, Zella said:

Add me as another one who was confused about what happened to Granville at the end. I couldn't figure out if he accidentally OD'd, if he committed suicide via morphine, or if he had an accident with the carriage while high. 

Yeah, I always assumed he was out in the storm and got injured (by a falling tree or something, I guess), and that's what killed him.

LH did a lot of 70s/80s-era episodes on the evils of drugs and alcohol.

[Pirpana]

Yeah, here's a couple of screenshots from that scene on Blu-ray. First one is a couple shots before the "big reveal", Charles is about to step into the frame to go to the fallen tree. Here we can only just see Granville's hand holding onto a bag of morphine. How are we even supposed to realize there is something there, except for blaring, sinister music.

And in second pic we see Granville's head facing away from us and his hand, holding bag of morphine, in a position it looks like he is sleeping using his hand as a "pillow". And it almost looks like as if he'd been lying there for many years or something, rest of his body is completely covered-up by dried-up leaves. Or better yet, like there's only his head! Very confusing. How exactly he ended up in that position under that fallen tree?

And just imagine how confusing it must have been for viewers in 1970s when they didn't have FullHD TVs and a possibility to pause to examine more closely.

Edited March 1, 2021 by Pirpana

[Blergh]

7 hours ago, Pirpana said:

Yeah, here's a couple of screenshots from that scene on Blu-ray. First one is a couple shots before the "big reveal", Charles is about to step into the frame to go to the fallen tree. Here we can only just see Granville's hand holding onto a bag of morphine. How are we even supposed to realize there is something there, except for blaring, sinister music.

And in second pic we see Granville's head facing away from us and his hand, holding bag of morphine, in a position it looks like he is sleeping using his hand as a "pillow". And it almost looks like as if he'd been lying there for many years or something, rest of his body is completely covered-up by dried-up leaves. Or better yet, like there's only his head! Very confusing. How exactly he ended up in that position under that fallen tree?

And just imagine how confusing it must have been for viewers in 1970s when they didn't have FullHD TVs and a possibility to pause to examine more closely.

I've never seen the screenshots before! 

 

So, IOW, it seems that Granville either passed out from the morphine and immediately afterwards, that huge old tree fell on him crushing him to death OR he was stumbling along in a morphine high when the tree fell on him (IOW, something that would have been termed 'an act of God').  

I had always just thought he'd passed out then died next to the tree  since it  was not  played out that clearly via actual filming but those virtually subliminal shots are far more disturbing (although how many viewers would have gotten the message of 'DON'T take morphine for highs or a random gigantic tree will fall on you!'?). 

Edited March 2, 2021 by Blergh

[BigBingerBro]

Thank God I'm not the only one that found that ending confusing.  😃

[jason88cubs]

Would the Reverend stay with people?

 

I would hear them say well the Reverend is staying with "so and so" this weekend

 

My question si where did he actually stay/sleep

 

Back then no one really had extra bedrooms

 

So if the Ingalls invited where did he sleep? i cant imagine them having him in the barn

[jird]

13 minutes ago, jason88cubs said:

Would the Reverend stay with people?

 

I would hear them say well the Reverend is staying with "so and so" this weekend

 

My question si where did he actually stay/sleep

 

Back then no one really had extra bedrooms

 

So if the Ingalls invited where did he sleep? i cant imagine them having him in the barn

I think he only stayed with people who did have room, like those random widows with giant houses. Eventually, in one of the stupid later seasons the town collectively gave him a house or something.

[die Frau]

They sometimes mention where he is staying in the early episodes. In one episode he was staying with Amy Hearne(the old woman from season one with the ungrateful children) and I believe he stayed with Mrs. Whipple (before poor Granville returned.) 

[Zella]

My grandparents grew up poor in the 40s, and they said they used to be kicked out of their beds onto the floor to give space to guests. It wouldn't surprise me at all if, as families took their turns with Reverend Alden, someone got evicted from their room to make space for him. People also shared beds a lot more back then, so it's perhaps even more likely that he would have slept in someone else's beds with them in it. [Think of the scene in True Grit of Mattie sharing a bed in the boardinghouse.] It seems weird to a modern sensibility, but my understanding is 19th century people didn't find it all that odd. (Or if they did, they didn't say so because it was just what was done.)

Just based on what I understand of the hospitality rules back then, I don't think anyone would have dared admit they couldn't put up the reverend, and it probably was a duty shared throughout the community, in much the same way that people took turns housing the teacher.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Zella

[jason88cubs]

you think they could have added a back bedroom or something to the school/church

[Zella]

11 minutes ago, jason88cubs said:

you think they could have added a back bedroom or something to the school/church

That wouldn't have solved the issue of his meals, though. 

[CountryGirl]

TV Reverend Alden was a roaming pastor, going from town to town, so he wouldn't have had permanent lodging anyway. I always envisioned him staying at someone's home or one of the empty rooms above Doc Baker's and the post office (the only lodging until Nellie's place came along).

[Mr. Sparkle]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

TV Reverend Alden was a roaming pastor, going from town to town, so he wouldn't have had permanent lodging anyway. I always envisioned him staying at someone's home or one of the empty rooms above Doc Baker's and the post office (the only lodging until Nellie's place came along).

I've always wondered about this. Sunday is obviously the big day, so did Walnut Grove not get him every Sunday? Did he do services on Thursdays in other towns? 

[Zella]

12 minutes ago, Superclam said:

I've always wondered about this. Sunday is obviously the big day, so did Walnut Grove not get him every Sunday? Did he do services on Thursdays in other towns? 

I think the show is inconsistent on this. They seem to indicate that he does a circuit, which would strongly imply he's not there every Sunday, but they never seem to show what they do on the Sundays he's not there. LOL So, he basically functions like a character who lives there, despite the show making it clear that he's not a full-time resident and even taking some pains to show him traveling (like in the Johnny Cash episode).

Edited March 3, 2021 by Zella

[Mr. Sparkle]

We know he goes to the town in Whisper County, we just don't know how often or when. 

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, Superclam said:

We know he goes to the town in Whisper County, we just don't know how often or when. 

I would think once would be more than enough with Miss Peale preaching from the Bible when she can't even READ!

Which reminds me...WTAF, Reverend Alden, having Mary leave home to go teach at that freak show town. And WTAF, ML, when it was RL Laura who had the teaching experience from hell with Mrs. Brewster and the knife on the other side of the bedsheet/curtain.

[debraran]

4 hours ago, Zella said:

I think the show is inconsistent on this. They seem to indicate that he does a circuit, which would strongly imply he's not there every Sunday, but they never seem to show what they do on the Sundays he's not there. LOL So, he basically functions like a character who lives there, despite the show making it clear that he's not a full-time resident and even taking some pains to show him traveling (like in the Johnny Cash episode).

They have mentioned Charles fills in from time to time. Who else would? lol   We saw him give the sermon when he wanted to dress down Harriet about different languages and being "literate" Probably could work today too.

I told someone who was checking in an Asian patient today with limited English, when she said "Why don't they learn English" most of our Italian relatives came here like that and many stayed that way. My grandfather spoke broken English most of his life and some learned, some didn't. I liked that episode because it showed another Landon lesson.

[jird]

16 minutes ago, debraran said:

They have mentioned Charles fills in from time to time. Who else would? lol   We saw him give the sermon when he wanted to dress down Harriet about different languages and being "literate" Probably could work today too.

I told someone who was checking in an Asian patient today with limited English, when she said "Why don't they learn English" most of our Italian relatives came here like that and many stayed that way. My grandfather spoke broken English most of his life and some learned, some didn't. I liked that episode because it showed another Landon lesson.

During the blizzard episode where Miss Beadle tried to kill all the kids, Harriet notes that Rev. Alden isn't spending the Christmas service with them (even though Walnut Grove donates more money than Sleepy Eye!) and that Charles giving the sermon will be "very quaint."

I always tell my kids that when they hear someone speaking English with an accent that it means they are fluent in at least two languages (which is more than I am!).

 

[debraran]

57 minutes ago, jird said:

During the blizzard episode where Miss Beadle tried to kill all the kids, Harriet notes that Rev. Alden isn't spending the Christmas service with them (even though Walnut Grove donates more money than Sleepy Eye!) and that Charles giving the sermon will be "very quaint."

I always tell my kids that when they hear someone speaking English with an accent that it means they are fluent in at least two languages (which is more than I am!).

 

Some know 3! Can you imagine my mom said it was an embarrassment to teach your kids another language at home and that's why so many Italian kids and many others I'm sure never learned to be bilingual. Other countries and cultures never thought that but its a shame because it would have been much easier to further my language abilities later.

I remember that episode, I had a feeling he did i more than once. I was going to say Caroline could have too but then I realized (shudder!) that would have been scandalous. ; )

 

[debraran]

Just watched last half of the circus episode. It could have been better but having blind children "watch" a circus when if blind from birth wouldn't make much sense to them. To touch a clown or elephant, maybe but it seemed odd having Charles narrate it. I hadn't remembered that before not seeing that one often. Almonzo's girlfriend was a bit too "This is so boring" For Pete's sake, what did they do in Walnut Grove for fun anyway? This was one of the big things. ; )  After the 8th closeup of her face, I was "we get it" .

Annabelle wouldn't be considered as big today and probably not a show on it but he did have overweight characters another time., the dad in the evil city and Elmer? I did love the Nel's hug at the end and the enthusiastic clapping of his children. The way Laura got to ruin the dress and they laughed at it, was not right. Caroline called her a "little devil" and smiled. Good thing it hadn't been Mary years before. She'd have been banned from tests/awards for a year. lol

Edited March 5, 2021 by debraran

[jird]

14 hours ago, debraran said:

The way Laura got to ruin the dress and they laughed at it, was not right. Caroline called her a "little devil" and smiled. Good thing it hadn't been Mary years before. She'd have been banned from tests for a year. lol

Yes! Remember how they framed a whole episode earlier in the season about Laura having to go apologize for the cinnamon chicken prank, and this seems way worse to me and her parents just laughed it off.

[Mr. Sparkle]

Say what you want about Michael Landon, but he does "emotionally destroyed" face as good as anybody. Both his and MSA's acting in Enchanted Cottage are top-notch. I got a little moved at the end. 

"Someone Please Love Me" on the other hand, is pretty crappy, as we've discussed here before. I'm surprised to find out ML didn't write/direct it, because it's a classic "Charles is better than anyone else" episode. I also realized for the first time that the daughter was played by the same actress who played Alicia. Also, the father seems to be wearing a really bad wig. 

ETA: Wiki says ML did write it and it's a copy of a Bonanza episode that he wrote. Imdb says Blanche Hanalis wrote it. I'm gonna go with wiki. 

2nd edit: I read imdb wrong. It was indeed Landon. 

Edited March 7, 2021 by Superclam

[Pirpana]

^Actually, he did write it and based it on a Bonanza episode which he also wrote. Moreover, episodes also had same director, Billy Claxton. Sometimes I wonder how it felt for Claxton to direct basically exactly same story twice. Like this one and "Caroline nearly cuts her leg off" episode.

ETA: Oh, you were faster to correct yourself than me, lol.

Edited March 6, 2021 by Pirpana

[Zella]

Season 8 has been as much of a slog as all of you warned me. The main thing I've noticed is just how shrilly and frantically unfunny it is, even when it appears to desperately be trying to be funny. 

I was looking forward to the orangutan episode--dare I say I was propelled forward with glee at the sheer absurdity of it. But I realized last night, I had miscalculated how far I am from it since it is toward the end of season 9. I have a long ways to go before I see the orangutan, and I am ashamed of how much that disappointed me. 

[Pirpana]

By the way, here's a good YouTube video about the infamous Thylvia episode: 

 

 

Guy makes a valid point there which has been overseen even over here, I think. So there's a rapist in Walnut Grove but no one seems to mind that. Where is the posse finding that creep?

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, Pirpana said:

Guy makes a valid point there which has been overseen even over here, I think. So there's a rapist in Walnut Grove but no one seems to mind that. Where is the posse finding that creep?

They're so blase about the peeping tom, I'm not surprised.