tv echo January 20, 2016 Share January 20, 2016 Who comes up with these ideas?... Reality Shows These 10 TV Characters Should Audition ForWednesday, January 20, 2016 Derek Staufferhttp://www.buddytv.com/articles/supernatural/the-reality-show-these-10-tv-c-58541.aspx Oliver Queen from Arrow on SurvivorWe get it Oliver, you spent five years on a hellish island with only one goal: to survive. You tell us every episode. How about you take those survival skills and actually make some money with them on Survivor. Since losing his family's company, Oliver has been wholly reliant on Felicity's income to keep himself afloat. He might have his plan for to become Mayor but that's a little too deadly. While a million dollars is probably a drop in the bucket for Oliver and Felicity at this point, it would be a little bit of extra cash. Maybe they could use it on their upcoming honeymoon. This is of course assuming Felicity survives her current injuries, which she totally will. 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Vulture review of 410... Arrow Recap: Remaking a MurdererBy Jenny Raftery January 20, 2016 9:00 p.m.http://www.vulture.com/2016/01/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-10.html?mid=twitter_vulture# Felicity only appears in this episode in little blips. Even in those brief moments, Rickards lights up the screen, despite the fact that she's confined to a hospital bed. Felicity, who sets aside her looming diagnosis, is selflessly concerned about Oliver's well-being. "Tell me you haven't gone off the rails," she says when he finally visits. Amell's understated response — a hesitant shrug — perfectly encapsulates his natural, no-words-needed chemistry with Rickards. In a vulnerable moment, Felicity tries to let Oliver off the hook for their marriage, since they hadn't gotten to those "for better or for worse" vows yet. (She worries that her diagnosis is why he hasn't visited.) To reassure her, Oliver takes her engagement ring, which a nurse had removed in the emergency room, and places it back on her finger. He's in for the long haul.* * *The episode concludes with Future Grave Scene, which finally involves some story advancement. Oliver leaves the grave and gets into a limousine, where a very-alive Felicity is waiting for him. Unfortunately, she's not wearing her engagement ring. There's a tense distance between them. "You know what you have to do, right?" Felicity asks, either unable or unwilling to look at Oliver. "You have to kill the son-of-a-bitch." 2 Link to comment
EmilyBettFan January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 I just love that even though she got the less screen time she still owns practically everyone. Makes me screech with glee because we know there are others out there who are grinches. 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 I hope EBR is wrong - I also wonder when this interview was actually done since Emily refers to the city as Starling... Arrow's Emily Bett Rickards Reveals Surprising Connection Between 'Olicity' and 'Bennifer'BY KARA WARNER 01/20/2016 AT 05:30 PM ESThttp://www.people.com/article/arrow-emily-bett-rickards-connection-between-olicity-bennifer "I don't feel like Olicity is going to be happily ever after," she tells PEOPLE. "Because of the city, there's no happily anything in Starling but, I have high hopes for them as long as they stay communicative. I really believe that's what they're doing right now. They have this deep connection and that's what they're working toward and what we're trying to put on television." And not that Rickards wouldn't love to see her Felicity find true happiness, it's just that it doesn't make for the most exciting storytelling. "It's interesting to see what ignites attention in a TV show," she says. "We love tortured love, we love Scandal, we love that intangible connection that we desire. So Stephen and I have really made a point for Felicity and Oliver to be this couple that is communicating and healthy but also, we're hoping that it's going to stay interesting to watch because there's this Starling life that we want to project, then there's trying to keep people intrigued. The business side I guess." Link to comment
bijoux January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 I don't think she's necessarily wrong. She doesn't say she doesn't think they belong together or that they won't be toggether. Just as the show is at the moment, there's always going to be a new battle waiting for them. 6 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) A.V. Club's mixed review of 401... Arrow makes an anarchic returnBy Alasdair Wilkins Jan 20, 2016 8:00 PMhttp://www.avclub.com/tvclub/arrow-makes-anarchic-return-231051 ... Felicity’s fate is necessarily the pivotal story here, and there are two basic ways the show could have handled the aftermath of her shooting. The first would be to spend as much of the episode as possible in the hospital, with Oliver and company putting their crusade on hold to be with their fallen comrade. That would be a meditative, thoughtful episode at best and a talky bit of claptrap at worst, and I can see why the Arrow creative team would want something with just a little more action in it to bring the show back from hiatus. And, to be sure, such an approach absolutely fits with what we have come to expect from Oliver, which is to run as far from his feelings as possible and go punch someone really hard. Under those circumstances, a Damien Darhk manhunt makes good narrative sense.* * *... it also means Laurel calling the cops to come arrest Machin because she has a principled objection to Oliver keeping Machin imprisoned. Although keeping Andy Diggle captive is fine, I guess? Honestly, it’s kind of disingenuous for me to claim I care that much about that inconsistency, as it’s not as though it occurred to me when I was watching the episode, but it speaks to the real issue there, which is Laurel once again being saddled with a nonsensical, adversarial for the sake of being adversarial viewpoint... That faltering bit of business with Laurel aside—definitely not the first time I’ve had to write that about an Arrow episode—there are the signs of some good stories here...* * *In the midst of all this, we learn that Felicity is paralyzed and will never walk again, at least for the time being. (Given multiple characters have already come back from the dead, that disclaimer is always necessary with any life-changing events on a show like Arrow.) I have relatively little to say about this because this ultimately feels like, if not exactly a footnote to this episode, then something that we only really experience in terms of how it affects Oliver, which feeds back into what I’ve already discussed about this episode’s storytelling. Given he’s the protagonist, it’s not the worst thing to keep the focus on him, and I expect there will be plenty of time given over to future episodes exploring Felicity’s new reality and how she deals with it. But for tonight, the show has too many other things to deal with for Felicity’s fate to hit with quite as much impact as it perhaps should.* * *None of this is to say “Blood Debts” is a particularly bad episode.... I could see this episode working legitimately well in a binge-watching context, where it forms just one part of a much larger whole instead of any sort of standalone hour of television. Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
Delphi January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Ha Emily is obsessed with Scandal. She mentions it every chance she gets. Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Laura Hurley's Cinemablend article focuses on DD's wife... The Arrow Midseason Premiere Just Introduced A Surprising New VillainBY LAURA HURLEY 11 HOURS AGOhttp://www.cinemablend.com/television/Arrow-Midseason-Premiere-Just-Introduced-Surprising-Villain-112857.html Link to comment
Starfish35 January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) "Blood Debts” gave a first real look at a character who may be a next great Arrow villain: Damien Darhk’s wife. That sentence would have been much more impressive if “Blood Debts” had revealed the actual name of the character played by Janet Kidder She made a mistake there....DD did say her name in the episode, when they were riding in the limo. But it might have been easy to miss for people who aren't spoiled for upcoming episodes, meaning her name on campaign posters. Edited January 21, 2016 by Starfish35 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) Robert Dougherty's review of 410 (rated it 6.5 out of 10) - warning: article includes references to spoilery scenes in that midseason sizzle promo (not quoted below)... Arrow S4: E10 -- 'Blood Debts'By Robert Dougherty January 21, 2016 07:30AM ESThttp://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e10-blood-debts This is a week where both Queens come face to face with their worst selves as they hunt the men who bring out their darkness worst of all. But while Oliver doesn't have the person who reminds him of his light -- although most of the episode it is by choice -- Thea gets a reminder of what she's already survived and still kept her strength through from Alex, despite not having a full context....* * *... Nonetheless, the really misguided ideas come afterwards, when Oliver gets the news of Felicity's paralysis and decides to let the clown -- or rather the anarchist -- out of the box. Laurel's attempts to be Oliver's moral center after that move aren't successful, especially with the Sara incident handy for Oliver to lord over her. But if she is being positioned as a moral center while Oliver inevitably goes darker down the line, it may do more to cement her place in the grave than anything else. If it is designed to show Oliver doesn't have an effective moral center without Felicity -- and leave him in even more danger when they ultimately break up -- Diggle does still remind Oliver he's got his back on that, despite being a little compromised himself.* * *This is an episode where Felicity is paralyzed, but it is still mostly all about Oliver and what it makes him go through, and to a lesser extent Thea and Diggle. It doesn't bode well for this whole arc being one that really focuses on Felicity herself and her coming crucible -- and while next week's preview seems to suggest the next episode will, it is really a Diggle/Andy centered episode as the teaser summary gave away. But since this particular episode's whole point is about what a hole there is without Felicity, the lack of her actually being around and showing us her struggle is part of the design -- leaving out whether or not it is a flawed one. The time honored pattern of letting Amell and Emily Bett Rickards paper over things like that together has gotten Arrow this far, though. When they finally get the chance here, everything falls more into place, since Felicity is paralyzed but Rickards really only needs her face to break hearts anyway. And once Felicity assumes that Oliver hadn't shown up yet because he wasn't willing to honor the "for better or for worse" part of their future vows -- an assumption that can especially cripple someone who's been left behind too many times in her life -- it shows the kind of issues and drama that this arc really should be about testing. But that is not what this plotline is going to do... (read more) Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) WeMinoredInFilm's generally positive review of 410... ARROW’S “BLOOD DEBTS” (S4,EP10): ABOUT THAT FLASH-FORWARDPosted on January 21, 2016 by Kelly Kondahttp://weminoredinfilm.com/2016/01/21/arrows-blood-debts-s4ep10-about-that-flash-forward/ Quick. Re-watch “Blood Debts,” Arrow‘s mid-season premiere, and take a shot every time someone says either “blood lust” or some variation on “you should really go see Felicity, Oliver.” Better yet, also take a shot every time Laurel seems oddly detached from everything, almost like she understands she should be mad at Oliver and worried about Thea but is bored by the familiarity of it all and simply going through the motions.* * *Watching “Bad Debts” was like watching a show take a collective sigh of relief. Similar to The Flash, everyone behind Arrow must simply be overjoyed that they can finally stop wasting their time on Legends of Tomorrow set-up and actually get back to telling their own stories. As a result, “Bad Debts” used the group’s concerns over Felicity’s health status as a way of advancing pretty much all of the ongoing storylines beyond the whole “Oliver’s lying to everyone about his secret son” thing. Inevitably, Oliver and Felicity pull focus, and Oliver’s arc in this episode had a predictable beginning leading to a delightful ending. That flash forward to four months from now seems to imply that Oliver and Felicity are heading for a serious, engagement-ending rough patch, but here in the present it was genuinely touching seeing the two of them arguably growing even closer together in that hospital room. He recommits himself to her and their engagement. She rejects an offer to vacation in Bali because they can also vacation after stopping Damien Darhk, proving that her priorities perfectly align with Oliver’s. The “vigilante goes super vigilante in response to a loved one being hospitalized” story is one I’ve seen done before multiple times, particularly on Angel, one of Arrow‘s spiritual predecessors. What I liked about Arrow’s take on it in “Blood Debts” is that Oliver, heeding Diggle’s warning, didn’t ultimately lose everything Felicity loves about him. That may yet happen in the coming episodes, but it was encouraging to see that Oliver’s half-season of growth wasn’t completely undone in a single episode. He reverted back to his old “kill or be killed” and “my way or the highway” methods, as you’d expect, but seemed to snap out of it in the end, particularly after realizing that his plan to release Anarchy to lead them to Darhk backfired because he hadn’t really thought it through in his fit of rage. It was also encouraging that they didn’t go the predictable route of Felicity being angry at Oliver. Instead, she perfectly understands the situation....* * *1. Am I the only one who laughed out loud when they first showed Anarchy’s burnt face? I don’t know what I was expecting, exactly, but I was expecting something worse than that. His scars are at least more pronounced than the Beast’s on the CW version of Beauty and the Beast, but that’s a low bar. 2. Is Katie Cassidy phoning in her performance at this point? Or am I alone in thinking that Laurel seems oddly detached from everything? Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
dtissagirl January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 I feel like I've read all of those EBR quotes before, months ago, even. 1 Link to comment
bijoux January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 WeMinoredInFilm's generally positive review of 410... ARROW’S “BLOOD DEBTS” (S4,EP10): ABOUT THAT FLASH-FORWARD Posted on January 21, 2016 by Kelly Kondahttp://weminoredinfilm.com/2016/01/21/arrows-blood-debts-s4ep10-about-that-flash-forward/ I completely agree about the scars. And the mask is... there. There's praise for the production from the writers's room on Twitter for making the mask scary and I'm just stumped over what's scary there. Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) Yahoo review of 410... 'Arrow' Recap: Anarky's Back... and Felicity's SpineRobert ChanJ anuary 20, 2016https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arrow-recap-4x10-blood-debts-anarky-felicity-044043533.html Anarky and Speedy Sittin’ in a Tree, K-I-L-L-I-N-G... Now it seems like Thea may actually be becoming attracted to the Anarky, sensing the same sort of bloodlust that she’s dealing with. Are we rea-Arrow-ding too much into this? Or are they headed for one of those Batman/Catwoman, Daredevil/Elektra romances that sends the hero down a dark path?* * *What Is This, 24?Beating on bad guys is standard operating procedure, but it’s just non-stop this episode. It begins with Oliver beating on Ghosts, then Diggle beats on his brother, then Thea beats on Anarky, all in the name of information-gathering. There’s even a bit of Conklin paying back Oliver with another Roots-style whipping. None of the violence achieves its objective, so it’s not like there’s a moral quandry. The point is that Oliver’s going off the deep end and losing his humanity — he even sacrifices Quentin’s cover (and his and Laurel’s safety) in his drive to find Darhk — but it’s just repetitive and awful.* * *And now, it’s time for everybody’s favorite game show! Now that we know definitively that it’s not Felicity in that tomb (though her position in the car four months from now is very suggestive that they do not find a miracle cure for her paralysis), who do we think the show is killing off? ... Right now, Donna is looking like the most likely target.... Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) Blastr review of 410 (for rest of review, go to link)... Anarky returns to Star City as Felicity's fate is revealed on ArrowTrent Moore Thu, Jan 21, 2016 9:30amhttp://www.blastr.com/2016-1-21/anarky-returns-star-city-felicitys-fate-revealed-arrow Olicity: It makes sense Oliver is scared to see Felicity after the shooting, but c’mon bro, man up. You’re needed at her bedside. But, when he finally does go to see her, it’s the perfect moment. As Felicity asks: “Have you gone off the rails?,” all Oliver can do is give a sly smile and shrug. She is the light to his darkness. Literally. Don’t let that relationship fall apart now, Arrow writers. Hey, maybe she’s just getting her ring cleaned four months in the future during the funeral… Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo 3 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Review: ‘Arrow’ Pays its ‘Blood Debts,’ Back in Fighting Form With Felicity TwistKevin Fitzpatrick | 13 hours agohttp://screencrush.com/arrow-blood-debts-review/ ... What “Blood Debts” did very well, however was not to waste time on Felicity in mortal peril, very much making her a part of the hour, even hoarse and bedridden. All of Emily Bett Rickards’ scenes tonight were lovely, rolling right past any emphasis on tragedy porn or breakup peril with Oliver, as she immediately understood why he’d keep busy tracking down Darhk.* * *It isn’t fair to suggest that Arrow itself lost any edge with Oliver’s unwillingness to kill, though it’s at least of interest here what could change Felicity’s tune so dramatically from an hour spent pulling Oliver back into the light. If anything, Arrow dips into that particular conflict rather repeatedly; it’s just nice being able to ask those questions of the series again, considering how much Legends pulled focus from any kind of moral pursuit.* * *... That said, the nature of Thea’s “Bloodlust” guilt isn’t solidifying as well as writers’ would like, leaving the back-and-forth relationship with Parker Young’s Alex at least somewhat inert. Better use of the time might have been the burgeoning vigilante/legal conflict between Oliver and Laurel’s use of Anarky to find Damien Darhk, an idea the series will undoubtedly play more with as the two grow into their comic roles.* * *- Anarky worked reasonably well, even if the insane choreography and skill seemed to come out of nowhere. Were those cattle prod-staff-nunchaku?* * *- Are we really throwing shade at Oliver for keeping Anarky prisoner, with Andy Diggle in a cage next door, or with The Flash still spitting on the justice system from an unmonitored super-prison?- “How dare she.” :::heart explodes:::- Ten bucks Alex turns out to be Damien Darhk’s son. 2 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Collider review of 410 (gave it a 3-star GOOD rating)... 'Arrow’ Midseason Premiere Recap: “Blood Debts” – It’s Got a Familiar Ring to ItBY DAVE TRUMBORE 13 HOURS AGOhttp://collider.com/arrow-midseason-premiere-recap-blood-debts/ ... What was quite touching in this episode, however, was both Diggle’s endearing love for Felicity as a friend and Oliver’s undying love for her as his wife-to-be. The scene of Oliver putting Felicity’s engagement ring back on her finger just as she was doubting his commitment was particularly sweet.* * *... So while “Blood Debts” did a serviceable job of bringing viewers back into the action and teeing up where the season is going from here, it felt more like a stage-setting episode than the best the Arrow is capable of doing. Still, I’m happy to have the most action-packed hour of television back, if only so they can resume breaking all sorts of glass. 3 Link to comment
looptab January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 LOL, that video with all the broken glasses was amazing. <3 to the Window Repair Guy. 2 Link to comment
bijoux January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 That guy's doing fine. He's sending all three of his kids to Ivy schools. 12 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 'Arrow' Recap: Felicity's Fate Sends Oliver Into a Violent TailspinWednesday, January 20, 2016http://www.buddytv.com/articles/arrow/arrow-recap-felicitys-fate-sen-58587.aspx As for Felicity, she is alive but not particularly well. Felicity's been in and out of surgery and she is going in for one more that will supposedly fix her spine. Oliver apparently hasn't been into visit her because he is on his manhunt for Darhk. This is a fact that everyone but Felicity has a problem with understanding or accepting.* * *Well, Oliver is the only one who wants to torture Anarky. All the other (sane) members of the team, want to take the mentally ill guy to prison. Oliver, as per usual, overrides them. Oliver's punching fest of Anarky is interrupted by Thea. Thea tells Oliver that Donna texted her. Felicity is out of surgery and it doesn't sound like it went well. Oliver finally goes to the hospital.* * *A furious Laurel confronts Oliver over his clearly crazy behavior. Oliver goes all ultimatum on her (again). Oliver tells Laurel that he is using Anarky to find Darhk and he has it under control (he doesn't). When Laurel is unable to reach Oliver, Dig takes over. Dig tells Oliver that he understands he is hurting. Dig doesn't want Oliver to lose what made Felicity fall in love with him in the first place trying to get justice for her attack. This method of persuasion works slightly better than Laurel's attempt.* * *Okay, back to the real stuff. The team convinces Oliver to go talk to Felicity. It's a lovely and emotional scene that reminds you why anyone roots for them as a couple. Felicity gets Oliver to calm down and come back to himself a bit. Oliver assures Felicity that he still loves her and always will. It doesn't matter to him if she's paralyzed.... Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Arrow Season 4: 11 Questions We’re Asking After The Mid-Season Premiere21 Jan 2016 James Hunthttp://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-11-questions-were-asking-after-the-mid-season-premiere.php The main plot sees the return of Lonnie Machin, determined to spread a little Anarky amongst the Ghosts and Team Arrow, while it runs concurrently alongside Felicity’s diagnosis after being shot. Thea flip-flops between being too angry to be in a relationship, and being in a relationship, Diggle tries some forceful methods to bring his brother back, there’s another showdown between Darhk and the Green Arrow, and Laurel is also kind of there. We may have got a couple of important answers, but it really just left more questions.... Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 DID ARROW SHOW US TOO MUCH, TOO FAST?By Neil Miller January 21, 2016http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/last-night-on-tv-january-20.php Up to about 30-seconds remaining in this first episode back from break, I was convinced that they would keep up the charade and continue to twist the knife on audiences who absolutely love Felicity Smoak. Because let’s face it, she’s been the most enjoyable character on this show for a long time. But then I remembered that we’re watching Arrow and this is a show that absolutely must keep pushing forward at all costs. For better or worse, it’s a show that rarely leaves threads hanging for too long. And while we don’t know any more about who is in the grave, we at least know that it’s not the person everyone thought it would be. (It’s still probably Thea.)* * *These kinds of episodes are some of the most frustrating for Arrow. A lot happened within the 44-minute runtime, but nothing really changed. That is, until the final 30-seconds when the show put one of its more compelling cards on the table. We’re still left to wonder exactly who is in that grave, but it seems less impactful if Felicity isn’t one of the options. Perhaps it’s too soon to pass judgment on this storyline, as Arrow has earned plenty of trust over the years, but in the moment it feels like too much, too soon. 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) Forbes reviewer, Erik Kain, has reluctantly accepted the existence of Olicity (I certainly hope he's wrong about Diggle)... 'Arrow' Midseason Premiere Review: Blood DebtsErik Kain JAN 21, 2016 @ 12:39 PMhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/01/21/arrow-midseason-premiere-review-blood-debts/#75460b5d2b28 First off, it’s a relief that Felicity is alive, even if this means more Olicity. I’ve made my peace with that romance, I suppose. The show has made it less cloying, has allowed Felicity to be funny and strong again, rather than always teary and distraught. Even in her hospital bed she got a classic Felicity line in the midseason premiere, “Blood Debts.”* * *That leaves us with Thea, Laurel, and Diggle. Thea has already pretty much died one time already, so I’m ruling her out, which leaves us with just Laurel and Diggle. But I’m going to rule out Laurel also. She wasn’t an original Team Arrow member, for one thing, and the final scene in “Blood Debts” is between Felicity and Oliver, two of the three original team members. Diggle is nowhere to be seen, despite being Oliver’s right-hand man. More to the point, this season’s big sub-plot is between Diggle and his long-lost brother and H.I.V.E. operative Andy...* * *I think this is an important clue. I think that Diggle’s attempt to return his brother to the light side of the Force will fail, and that Andy will—on Damien’s orders—kill his own brother. Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 (edited) The Workprint places its odds on who's in the grave after 410 (Lance odds quoted below)... WHO DIES IN ‘ARROW’ SEASON 4?BY JEN STAYROOK Jan. 21, 2016http://www.theworkprint.com/who-dies-in-arrow-season-4/123 LAUREL UGH-I-CAN’T-EVEN LANCE: 5%I know I’m not supposed to say things like this but my goodness I hope it’s Laurel the Hypocrite’s grave. Oh, now you care about setting loose homicidal maniacs? Now you have morals and want everyone to be all about truth and justice because it suits the pants you’re wearing this week? I know the likelihood of it actually being Laurel is slim because we’ve already lost one Black Canary but my goodness, why is she even on the show at this point?* * *DETECTIVE/CAPTAIN/OMG-WHO-EVEN-CARES LANCE: 25% He’s almost as bad as Laurel. Almost. Every time he references Oliver “dropping bodies” I want to sucker punch him in the teeth. You WORK for the bad guy. That guy who has killed EVERYONE around you? Yea, you helped him do that. Sure, you didn’t pull the trigger, but the guilt is still there. Darhk isn’t going to be happy Lance betrayed him, and I think he already suspects it, so Lance isn’t too safe. Also, as we’ve seen in the past, he doesn’t handle bad guys too well so offing him would be easy. Besides, the SCPD is a joke rivaling Gotham PD so maybe we need to get some new blood in there. Felicity looks to be taking up an Oracle-esque role so maybe we’ll be on the lookout for a new Gordon. Fingers crossed! Edited January 21, 2016 by tv echo 4 Link to comment
Morena January 21, 2016 Share January 21, 2016 Do Oliver and Felicity have any hope for an ‘Arrow’ happy ending? http://zap2it.com/2016/01/arrow-oliver-felicity-engagement-happy-ending-doomed/ Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 (edited) Arrow T-Shirts That Hit The MarkIndie Minded Round-UpJanuary 20, 2016http://indieminded.com/2016/01/arrow-t-shirts/ Right now, DC Comics fans are being treated to plenty of television incarnations of their beloved superheroes, and Arrow leads the charge. Having previously incorporated the Green Arrow into the TV series Smallville, Arrow producers decided to start clean and cast the brooding Stephen Amell as the new Oliver Queen. He might not look very much like the original Green Arrow comic book character, yet that hasn’t stopped the show from receiving generally positive reviews, winning awards and being renewed for a 23-episode fourth season. Arrow returns TODAY! (Wednesday, January 20th) at 8:00pm with DC’s latest spin-off Legends of Tomorrow premiering Thursday, January 21st at 8:00pm.Destiny leaves its mark and so do these Arrow T-Shirts… you’ll want one on your body if you’re ever shipwrecked! Edited January 22, 2016 by tv echo 3 Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 (edited) L.A. Times' overall positive review of 410 (recommend reading the entire article)... 'Arrow's' back with 'Blood Debts': The hero we don't need right nowJames Queally January 21, 2016http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-arrow-blood-debts-recap-20160120-story.html Killer Queen (heh, puns are fantastic) is terrible at his job. He’s desperate, he’s ignoring his closest advisors, and all of his plans melt into catastrophe in alarmingly fast fashion. We could have easily seen Oliver talked down from his bloodthirsty rage by Diggle or Thea or Felicity, but “Blood Debts” spares us Comic Book Lesson 101 in place of a much harsher reality: Mr. Queen sucks at hero-ing when he goes rogue.“Blood Debts” hits almost all the right notes throughout, from Oliver’s philosophical stumbles with killing to the emotional tumult felt by most members of Team Arrow. Oliver is distraught, unmoored and erratic without Felicity to anchor him, while Ms. Smoak is all the right kinds of awkward and terrified as she sits morphine-dripped and mortally wounded in a hospital bed. She was a little too forgiving of Oliver’s absence at her bedside for my tastes, but her ability to give Oliver needed counsel while half-dead is also a little too heartwarming for me to nitpick. I’m a little more than skeptical that she’s actually paralyzed, but we’ll get back to that later.* * *For the record, this incarnation of Anarky isn’t really working for me, especially his capoeira/nunchaku attack style. We’ve kind of devolved a complicated character into a parkour-style assassin, and while that allows the villain to fit into “Arrow’s” cinematic fighting style, it does a lot less to distinguish him as more than a villain of the week.* * *I can keep nitpicking, but “Blood Debts” is a high note for “Arrow’s” fourth season, and hopefully a sign of a permanent return to form now that all the setup for “Legends of Tomorrow” is over and done with.* * *I’m really hoping Felicity isn’t actually paralyzed, and not just because the idea of the character being seriously hurt is a top-rope elbow drop to my soul. “Arrow” has borrowed a ton of Batman villains and Batman story lines. I was waiting for Ra’s Al Ghul to start referring to Ollie as “detective” last year. But if Felicity Smoak, second-cousin to Oracle, actually winds up in a wheelchair by virtue of an arch-villain-driven bullet to the spine, then we need to officially retitle “Arrow” as “Elsewords: Gotham.” Felicity never confirmed the diagnosis, so I’m going to assume her mother was mistaken. Edited January 22, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 (edited) Short WM interview by ComicBook.com (don't think this is spoilery)... Arrow Showrunner Wendy Mericle On The Midseason PremiereRuss Burlingame 01/20/2016http://comicbook.com/2016/01/20/arrow-showrunner-wendy-mericle-on-the-midseason-premiere/ On that note, I have to ask about John Constantine, because my readers do, all the time.I think everyone involved would love to have John Constantine back. He’s such a great character and Matt’s such a tremendous actor. We have no immediate plans — certainly not for Season Four — but we haven’t really begun to talk about plans for Season Five or beyond, and who knows? It worked so well and everyone had such a great time, I would never rule it out. Speaking of Season Five, are there storytelling challenges that this year, you appear to be heading toward a cliffhanger that wouldn’t be resolved by the time the season is out? Or is it just a matter of not being all that worried about a renewal?Me, myself, I don’t really ever take that for granted....I think it’s always smart to operate under the assumption that anything could happen, so whatever cliffhangers we’re working for, we think of a way it would round out the story. That said, I feel we are likely to get a fifth season, if only to complete the five years. Yeah. If there’s ever a time to be worried, it’s probably once the five years are up, not so much before.Yeah. You run out of the flashbacks. They could potentially end at Season Five. I don’t think if we got there that would be the case, but it was always the five years in the past type of thing, so the seeds of a five-year plan are definitely there. Edited January 22, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 (edited) This Den of Geek reviewer thought that 410 was "mediocre" (2.5/5 stars)... Arrow: Blood Debts ReviewKayti Burt 1/20/2016 at 10:01PMhttp://www.denofgeek.us/tv/arrow/252161/arrow-blood-debts-review How far is too far when seeking truth, justice, and the American way? (Or, you know, the Arrow version of that — i.e. information, vengeance, and the vigilante way.) Arrow loves asking this question, which is probably why it brought it back for "Blood Debts," its midseason premiere. Because there is nothing like a midseason premiere to hammer home the themes of your show — no matter how many times you've explored them before.* * *... Anarky actually has much more to do here, and I actually really enjoyed his exasperate confusion over Team Arrow's confused stance on whether or not they actually wanted to lock him up or not. His scarring, of course, was ridiculous — but exactly what you expect from a CW show trying to mangle the beautiful countenances of its actors. (See also: Beauty and the Beast.)* * *Yep, we're still doing this flashback thing. This episode's central tension relied on us believing that Oliver would kill himself to save Taiana. Obviously, we know that Oliver will not kill himself, and we don't care enough about the other characters standing around watching all of this to be invested in the threat at all.* * *Not having Felicity to lighten up Team Arrow's missions made everything feel that much darker. It was early season 1 levels of dark — i.e. Oliver gruffly storming in and out of the lair, torturing people, not dealing with any of his emotions, and not explaining to anyone else what he was doing. Fewer voiceovers, though. (Remember the voiceovers?) As a result, the scenes between Oliver and Felicity in the hospital felt like some much-earned therapy. Oliver is a different (much more likeable) person when he is talking with his lady love. His face contorts into different, less grumbly expressions. Best of all, the show allows Oliver some level of self-awareness whilst basking in the glow of Felicity's presence, and it makes him about a million times more relatable as a protagonist. It's not a Felicity-unrelated coincidence the second half of this episode was better than the first. Edited January 22, 2016 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 (edited) 410 reviews from some popular fan sites - these tend to be lengthy, although thoughtful and well-written, so I'm not going to quote anything (but I recommend reading them)... ‘Arrow’ 4×10 Review: Darkness vs. Lightfangirlish JANUARY 21, 2016http://fangirlish.com/arrow-4x10-review-darkness-vs-light/ FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE: BLOOD DEBTS 4X10 REVIEWjbuffyangel JANUARY 21, 2016http://jbuffyangel.tumblr.com/post/137761918248/for-better-or-for-worse-blood-debts-4x10-review Arrow 4x10 "Blood Debts" (In the Details With the Devil)Just About Write January 21, 2016http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2016/01/arrow-4x10-blood-debts-in-details-with.html Edited January 22, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 IGN thought that 410 "stumbled a fair bit"... ARROW: "BLOOD DEBTS" REVIEWJESSE SCHEDEEN 20 JAN 2016http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/21/arrow-blood-debts-review Not that Felicity's life-or-death struggle didn't provide some good character drama this week. Ollie was dragged through an emotional gauntlet this week as he grieved over Felicity's life-or-death battle and channeled his rage into hunting down Damien Darhk. In the process, his quest for revenge threatened to consume him and make him neglect his fiancee in her time of need. It's a struggle Ollie has dealt with many times over the course of the show - learning how to prioritize his family over his vigilante crusade - and it's clear he still doesn't quite have a handle on things. Throughout the episode, Stephen Amell's angry, haggard performance illustrated how far Ollie has fallen since the early weeks of Season 4. The calm, almost happy-go-lucky Ollie is all but dead now, replaced by someone much more in line with the tortured hero of past seasons. He acted recklessly and even threatened to put himself on the wrong side of the law again by freeing Lonnie Machin from police custody. It's a sad but perhaps necessary transition. No doubt the real struggle of this season for Ollie, beyond battling HIVE and dealing with the discovery of his long-lost son, will be to prove to himself that his happiness wasn't fleeting and that he didn't damn himself by choosing to come back to Star City. The good news is that he did find some redemption in this episode by saving Darhk's family even when Darhk targeted his.* * *Diggle's character arc was fairly mixed this week. On one hand, David Ramsey delivered a strong performance as he continued to dig into his character's troubled relationship with his estranged brother. Diggle hit a low point as he resorted to physically beating his brother for information, followed by an emotional high as he finally broke through the ice. On the other hand, the writing simply wasn't very effective when it came to justifying Andy's change of heart. He's been stone cold and remorseless about his time as a HIVE agent all this time. The implication always seemed to be that either Darhk used his magic to physically prevent captive soldiers from talking or the fear of retaliation was stronger than anything Team Arrow could inspire. And we're to believe Diggle finally broke through by having a quick heart-to-heart chat with him? That doesn't fly. Link to comment
Ann Mack January 22, 2016 Share January 22, 2016 ‘Arrow’ Review: “Blood Debts”January 22, 2016 0Nora Dominick ’17/ Emertainment Monthly Co-Executive Stage Editor http://emertainmentmonthly.com/2016/01/22/arrow-review-blood-debts/ 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 (edited) Craig Wack (Pajiba) and Tatiana Torres discuss this week's shows (Arrow discussion begins at around the 40:30 mark, I've transcribed a few portions of this podcast - see below)... Agents of GEEK Podcast Episode 12Posted on 01/22/2016http://agentsofgeekpodcast.com/wordpress/ Craig: "But really, this episode boiled down to the last five minutes... we have Ollie get in the back of a limo and - ding! - there's Felicity. So that answers the question of who's not in the grave, uh, which is Felicity, which is what everyone was afraid of. And of course, everyone - like in the internet sleuth land - um, notices that she's not wearing her engagement ring in that scene, so it's like 'oh god', you know -"Tatiana: "Talk about like bringing me up, up, up - and then smashing me right back down in the ground."Craig: "So that ship - it looks like it's going to at least sink, or at least take on some water, um, during this hunt for Damian Darhk... Given Felicity's reaction in the whole - in this whole little scene, of actually who is in the grave... it's probably going to be Felicity's mother, um, which makes some sense because part of Darhk's whole M.O. is to - he goes after the people who - basically, the people his enemies care about and I'm sure he'll figure out that Detective Lance, um, you know, betrayed him or was informing on him to Team Arrow and so... because it's too obvious to go after Lance's daughter, the D.A., his chippie girlfriend is probably going to be the one who gets it. And she just happens to be Felicity's mom...."Tatiana: "The only problem, now I'm thinking about it, with that theory is why would Barry be at the funeral? ... I have another theory... This is going to get really dark, folks... Felicity finds out about the kid and that's what causes the rift, which is why she's not wearing the ring. But then, they do something to the kid, kid or kid's mom is killed. So like that's really emotional, and so like that's why she would be there with him, like kind of in solidarity in the limo. But it would also, like, give background to why Barry would be there and why, like, maybe she's coming back together with Oliver at that moment, because of that."Craig: "Well, it would also sorta explain why Oliver is there alone, rather than part of a larger funeral... because he wasn't really a part of her life, he's there sorta paying his respects in private, because they weren't, you know, technically a public thing. That makes some sense." Craig: "Overall, it was a good return..."Tatiana: "... It was depressing as shit last night. Goodbye, lighter tone... This is our cool new thing to do. The second half of the season , we go dark as f**k." Tatiana: "How does the island relate to anything? Guys, anything?! ... I am 100% want to go to the writers room and be like, 'No one gives a shit about this island. Get. Off. The. Island.'"Craig: "... Progress on the island has been painfully slow... There's a mystical component there... There's something there, but... this whole thing could've been short-circuited if Ollie could remember what happened on the island in something more than two-minute stretches. And in like consecutive stretches... 'Oh, yes, the bluh, bluh, bluh, you know, whatever maguffin that the island dude has, you know, can help me defeat Darhk!'.... But, you know, it's probably going to take 18 episodes for Ollie to sort of reach that conclusion on remembering back to what happened on the island."Tatiana: "... What Oliver really needs to do is, he needs to go through some regressive hypnotherapy, so that he can remember everything on the island at once, write it all down, and then we never have to go to the island again. He'll be like, 'hold on, in my handy, dandy notebook, it says right here, this will help you stop Damian Darhk and his GMO corn. Good to go, guys. Now let's focus on some other issues.'" Edited January 23, 2016 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 ANARKY RISES: “BLOOD DEBTS” WILL BE PAID IN THIS WEEK’S EPISODE OF ARROWVerena Cote | January 21, 2016http://www.4ye.co.uk/2016/01/anarky-rises-blood-debts-will-be-paid-in-this-weeks-episode-of-arrow/ ... The dynamic between Lonnie Machin and Thea is surprisingly entertaining and fun to watch. It’s an exciting cat-and-mouse game, albeit a little psychotic, but who are we to judge?! The chemistry between the two characters is definitely more palpable than between Thea and her actual current love interest Alex. This relationship is hopefully something the show will revisit at some point. ... Only towards the end of the episode does he actually take the time to visit his fiancée. What follows is an incredibly strong performance by Stephen Amell and Emily Bett Rickards. It is a testament to their ever-growing relationship that Felicity understands the reason why Oliver hasn’t been with her and furthermore does not hold it against him. She reminds him of what he is fighting for. As she offers him an out of their engagement due to her current condition, he reminds her that they are in this fight together. For better or worse. It’s okay to cry, now.* * *... It is only a momentary moment of relief to see our favorite blonde hacker goddess in the backseat with him, though because distraught doesn’t even begin to cover the emotion displayed on Felicity’s face. What we couldn’t help but notice is that her hand is missing a certain ring. What’s up with that? The original question remains: Who is in that [expletive] grave? Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 Arrow 4x10 Heart-to-Heart: For Better or For WorseMARILYN PORTER THU JAN 21 2016 11:15AMhttp://www.heroesandheartbreakers.com/blogs/2016/01/arrow-4x10-heart-to-heart-for-better-or-for-worse I know that some are probably questioning why Oliver hasn’t been there, right by Felicity’s side, as she’s been in the hospital. I am not. Because he wasn’t staying away because of a lack of love or devotion. In fact, what he was doing was the very definition of love and devotion. This is how Oliver provides for the love of his life. He wanted to be able to come to her and say, “I got Darhk, I took care of it.” It hurt him that he wasn’t able to do that. He was ashamed of his failure and he was ashamed of how he left her alone. Felicity, bless her heart, let him know that she understood. Why? Because Felicity knows Oliver. She understands this is how he shows his love for her. She did worry, because of her disability, but Oliver was quick to reassure her of that.* * *Oliver remarks to Laurel later that Felicity is stronger than all of them. That feels a bit like heavy foreshadowing to me. What happens when Felicity is no longer the strong one? What happens when she needs someone to be strong for her? Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 (edited) Arrow, Ep. 4.10, “Blood Debts” Randy Dankievitch January 21, 2016http://www.popoptiq.com/arrow-review-blood-debts/ “Blood Debts” provides the best excuse Arrow‘s had for a long time to indulge its infatuation with the darkness and violence inside Oliver Queen’s soul.1 And initially, “Blood Debts” seems ready to come back from winter hiatus with a energetic vengeance, with Arrow initiating a manhunt for the Darhkest member of Star City – sure enough, however, the many conflicts and plot lines of season four get in the way of Arrow‘s attempts to explore Oliver’s latest moral compromise, and “Blood Debts” ends up being one of the least action-heavy hours of the season. That wouldn’t be a bad thing, of course, had Arrow doubled down on its characters: instead, all of “Blood Debts” feels like a slave to Arrow‘s overarching plot of season four, which demands constant teasing about who may or may not be dead in the grave four months and a dozen episodes from now.* * *... For example: does anyone give a shit about Quentin and Felicity’s mother dating? Or does anyone have any investment in Oliver and Felicity’s engagement, now that we see she’s not wearing her engagement ring in the flash-forwards?...* * *Who the hell is Brie Thorpe, and why did this episode make such a big deal of panning past her gravestone? Speaking of graves, it’s pretty clear it’s either Diggle, Thea, or Quentin in that casket. After this week’s episode, I’m still on board with the Quentin Eats It theory, though the Thea Bites It train gets some serious momentum here, and gives the Diggle Dies movement a bit of a boost in the process... Edited January 23, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 Arrow "Blood Debts" Review: Revenger's ParadiseBy Noel Kirkpatrick January 21, 2016http://www.tv.com/shows/arrow/community/post/arrow-season-4-episode-10-blood-debts-review-145297393559/ "Blood Debts" eliminated Felicity from the list of potentials candidates this week, which I'm sure was a relief to a lot of folks. Even now, I still don't really have a guess about who could be in the grave, though I feel like, based on Felicity wanting Oliver to go and kill again and Barry being there, it's obviously someone pretty darn close to Team Arrow... Samantha or William are possibilities, too, and they'd be the easiest to sacrifice, narratively speaking. It just seems unlikelier now than it did after the crossover given Felicity's anger. Then again, four months is a long time, and maybe Oliver came clean soon enough that Felicity got to know Samantha and William well enough to be pretty angry about this loss... In short, I really don't have any idea. Also, I kind of don't care. Basically, so long as it's not Diggle or Thea, I'm good. I'd probably be a bit upset if it's Laurel (I don't think it's Laurel, however; I'd lay higher odds on Diggle or Thea, honestly), but not as upset if it's Diggle or Thea.* * *I don't really want to focus too much on Oliver's whole manhunt for Darhk and how he ignored Felicity to ignore his own pain and sense of responsibility because I feel like we've been down this road before, and I'm a little tired of the scenery. I think I'm mostly tired of it because the show wanted us to feel like Oliver was being pushed to the edge and that he was going to fall into bad habits again of "dropping bodies" and will become an asshole to his friends and allies. The thing is that Oliver just seems to exist on that edge all the time for the most part. It's been downplayed a bit this season—and if anything was going to send him, an attack on Felicity made the most emotional sense—but I feel like we haven't had enough time away from Season 3 Oliver to really feel like there's been a strong arc here. It's one of the perils of the time skip the show executed, but I also think we just didn't get enough time with Oliver being the Green Arrow, being this symbol of hope. The only new wrinkle—and it's a wrinkle I really appreciate—was that people were around to call Oliver on his nonsense... Of course, it didn't help that, this week, the person calling him on all this was Laurel, who was likewise up to her neck in hypocrisy... Neither of them get to take the moral high ground, let alone feel superior to one another, so their arguments about right and wrong just ended up feeling pretty pointless, unless the show wanted us to be aware of how completely covered in muck they were...* * *I started this season cautiously optimistic about where Arrow was going, and "Dark Waters" had me still feeling that way since all the Legends of Tomorrow set-up was done. I'm still waiting for the season to really take a leap, and while I liked "Blood Debts"—Oliver's really dumb planning aside—it also signaled that Arrow is perhaps ready to repeat itself regarding Oliver, and I'm not interested in the show leaping backwards... 2 Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 I thought Laura Hurley's responses to these questions were interesting... anonymous asks:[1] Hi Laura! First of all, let me tell you that I love everything you write, you're funny and sassy and it's a beautiful combination lol. I would like to ask you some questions. 1) Why being a love interest is seen so negatively for a female character? I always thought that loving someone was something difficult to do and loving someone like Oliver must be harder. 2) I know everybody is upset about Oliver lying to Felicity but I think it shows something more.Jan 22, 2016 4:58 pmhttp://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/137836100716/1-hi-laura-first-of-all-let-me-tell-you-that-i anonymous asks:[2] Do you know these persons who are afraid that their partner will break up every time they have a fight or a disagreement? Oliver makes me think of these persons. He is always self-depreciating himself and doesn't accept the fact that Felicity could love him no matter what. This is the problem I want to be solved. Weirdly I'm not afraid about the Baby Mama Drama. 2) Do you think that means that Oliver doubts of them as a couple? Do you he's always ready for Felicity to dump him?Jan 22, 2016 5:27 pmhttp://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/137837750321/2-do-you-know-these-persons-who-are-afraid-that 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 Arrow 410 Review – Oliver’s On the Warpath Again in “Blood Debts”By: Alisha Bjorklund January 22, 2016http://www.threeifbyspace.net/2016/01/arrow-410-review-olivers-on-the-warpath-again-in-blood-debts/#.VqPF_vkrLIU The conversation at the hospital between Oliver and Felicity was one of the most emotional moments we’ve had in the entire series and it was done so beautifully. In the scenes leading up to this one, Felicity kept an understanding attitude regarding why Oliver wasn’t at her side. But when Oliver does visit her, Felicity’s insecurity comes rushing out into the open. She tries to release Oliver from feeling obligated to stay with her, and Oliver, bless his heart, was quick to erase any doubt that he wasn’t going to be with her “for better or for worse.” That tenderness made the scene all the more powerful and memorable. If I were the type of person to cry at TV shows, I would have been bawling.* * *The way Oliver handled his grief and anger over what happened to Felicity was very much in character for him and provided plenty of opportunity for other characters to remind him to snap out of it. Team Arrow tries to make Oliver realize that this situation isn’t just about him, and it isn’t until much later that he actually gets it. This allowed for a lot of great character growth, and I appreciated that the dramatic tension wasn’t simply based on some secret or lie or betrayal.* * *I give this episode 8 out of 10. As much as I loved how it was largely a love letter to Felicity, I can’t ignore how some elements felt rehashed and forced. Overall, though, it was an enjoyable event and I’m extremely curious to find out how they will approach Felicity’s paralysis going forward.... Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 (edited) Jessica Breaux's review of 410 (recommend reading the entire article)... Arrow “Blood Debts” Review (Season 4, Episode 10)Jessica Breaux Jan. 22, 2016http://www.tvequals.com/2016/01/22/arrow-blood-debts-review-season-4-episode-10/ ...if the show had gone the route of killing off Felicity, I would’ve been furious. It would’ve provided some excellent dramatic ground to cover, but I still would’ve been angry because I love Felicity so much. I’m not the only one either. Oliver went completely off the rails in his attempts to find Darhk and make him pay for almost killing Felicity. One thing that’s always been true about Oliver is his tendency to allow himself to be ruled by his emotions. On the surface, he usually looks calm and collected, but very rarely is that actually the case. He spirals out of control at the drop of a hat and then hates himself for what he’s done after he has a chance to reel himself back in. Felicity keeps Oliver grounded and centered, and this episode let us (and Team Arrow) see what Oliver would be like if he ever lost Felicity. Color me heartless if you want, but Oliver was actually pretty selfish in this episode. It was selfish of Oliver to abandon Felicity. I understand why he did it. Oliver would much rather have something that he can punch/kick/shoot than a spinal injury that he has no power to fix. I also get that Oliver wanted Darhk out of the picture by the time he talked to Felicity because he wanted to be able to tell her that she was safe. Those are perfectly legitimate reasons for avoiding the hospital. However, Felicity needed Oliver. Whether she showed it or not, she was scared and her fear had very little to do with Darhk. Felicity was more afraid of her life as she knows it being over. The fact that one of the first things she said to Oliver when he finally made his way to the hospital was that she figured the reason he was staying away was that he’d decided he couldn’t be with her anymore lets you know where her mind went. She told the others she understood why Oliver wasn’t there, but it was a front. Oliver’s absence through the majority of Felicity’s surgeries gave her mind time to form those doubts, and Oliver was wrong to do that to her. I get that when he’s angry his default is to direct that anger at bad things, but that’s not really what he was doing. ... Oliver was on his own mission and whether Dig, Laurel, and Thea were on board was completely irrelevant to him. The lack of cohesion and infighting within Team Arrow is actually really becoming a problem. I can almost give Oliver a pass in this case though because his head wasn’t right. Almost. Edited January 23, 2016 by tv echo 2 Link to comment
tv echo January 23, 2016 Share January 23, 2016 More grave speculation after 410 (mostly discusses Donna, Quentin, BM and son, and Laurel)... WHO'S IN THE GRAVE? EXAMINING THE CLUES FROM "ARROW'S" MIDSEASON PREMIEREMeagan Damore 2 hours agohttp://www.comicbookresources.com/article/arrow-death-examining-clues-from-midseason-premiere Link to comment
tv echo January 24, 2016 Share January 24, 2016 Arrow Season 4: 19 WTF Moments From ‘Blood Debts’Andrew Pollard 24 JANUARY 2016http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-19-wtf-moments-from-blood-debts.php Blood Debts proved to be a largely successful and well executed return for The CW’s Emerald Archer-centric show, and the outing was full of plenty of surprising, impactful or slightly random WTF moments. So with that said, let’s take a look at the best of those particular happenings.* * *9. Laurel Giving Up AnarkyLaurel Lance has been Arrow’s biggest problem since the show debuted, and she again had some questionable behaviour in this mid-season premiere.With extracting information from Lonnie Machin seemingly the only option that Team Arrow has if they’re going to find Damien Darhk, stop him, and avenge the damage that he’s done to Felicity, it might not be all that hero-like to keep a hostage, but desperate times call for desperate measures, particularly when Oliver Queen is a man who has never been afraid to go the extra mile when needed.As such, it was a little bit of a headscratcher when Laurel had the audacity to not only question Oliver, but to go one further and go above his head in order to call the police in to apprehend Anarky. And with that, at least temporarily, out of the window went Oliver’s only apparent hope of finding the man responsible for so much damage and destruction, Damien Darhk. Cheers, Laurel.* * *1. It's Not Felicity!Phew!With the mystery still bubbling over who’s in the gravesite that we’ve seen future Ollie moping beside, we can at last count out Felicity Smoak! In fact, far from being dead, Felicity actually wants someone dead.There’s still plenty of theories on just who is in the grave (my personal one, it’s totally William, Oliver’s recently-discovered son), but we now definitely know that Felicity is out of the equation for we see her sat with future Ollie after he returns to his car following his graveside moment. Not only is she alive, so disgusted at whatever caused the death of whoever is in the grave, she tells Oliver that there is only one thing that he must now do: kill the son of a bitch responsible, namely Damien Darhk.This was the darkest we’ve ever seen Felicity Smoak, and it was a huge shocker to see her steely determination and also the fact that in 4 months’ time she’s most definitely still alive. 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 24, 2016 Share January 24, 2016 Diggle is now the subject of fan fears in this article... Fandom Speaks: Arrow Fans Renew Worry About Who’s in Graveby Erica Schaaf January 21, 2016, 10:39 am 0http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/01/21/fandom-speaks-arrow-fans-renew-worry-about-whos-in-grave/ 1 Link to comment
Morena January 25, 2016 Share January 25, 2016 Arrow's Stephen Amell Teases All-Time Merlyn Cliffhanger Moment, Huge Rematch http://comicbook.com/2016/01/25/arrows-stephen-amell-teases-all-time-merlyn-cliffhanger-moment-h/ Link to comment
Ann Mack January 26, 2016 Share January 26, 2016 'Arrow' Spoiler: Are Oliver and Felicity Going to Break Up?Monday, January 25, 2016Derek StaufferContributing Writer, BuddyTV http://www.buddytv.com/articles/arrow/arrow-are-oliver-and-felicity-58627.aspx Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 26, 2016 Share January 26, 2016 Just posting a note because I totally missed the announcement. There's clarification as to what is/isn't a spoiler in the mod note at the top of the page. 1 Link to comment
wonderwall January 26, 2016 Share January 26, 2016 oh fuck... There's another Arrow screener -_- Tomorrow's gonna be FUN Chris E. Hayner @ChrisHayner 9m9 minutes agoWhat's this? An #Arrow screener? You'll be fun tomorrow morning. 1 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 26, 2016 Share January 26, 2016 oh fuck... There's another Arrow screener -_- Tomorrow's gonna be FUN I think it's going to be pretty inoffensive and filler-y. No rage, I'm betting. (That comes later.) Link to comment
jay741982 January 26, 2016 Share January 26, 2016 Oh boy I don't know whether to feel dread or happiness Link to comment
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