Criminal Minds Unpopular Opinions

[TaurusRose]

3 hours ago, Gbb said:

This is said with no malice at all, just sharing because I found it funny. About 2/3 of the way through your post I had already scrolled down a bit to click "like" because I agreed with everything you were saying. Then you had to go and despise Spike, and it was impossible for me to leave the little heart clicked ;)

I liked Spike until he became a series regular.  That was fan pandering of the worst kind, IMO.  I have other reasons, too, but this is not the Buffy thread.  :)  

[smoker]

1 hour ago, taurusrose said:

I liked Spike until he became a series regular.  That was fan pandering of the worst kind, IMO.  I have other reasons, too, but this is not the Buffy thread.  :)  

Adding  that verb (to pander) to my arsenal haha

Sometimes fan pandering is the right thing xD

But I am thinking of Veronica Mars, season 2 and Logan. However, you are right, this is not the place.

[Iknewyoucoulddoit]

I've been rewatching the past few weeks and have really enjoyed falling back in love with this show! Some of my opinions that seem fairly unpopular - 

I really love Rossi. He's tied with Reid and Prentiss as my favorite character. 

Part of me has always shipped Reid and Prentiss. I understand why many hate the idea of ships within the team and often agree, but there's something in me that would love to see them together, if only in the fanfic that I'm about to start reading and (possibly?!) writing! 

It seems many love the Elle and Gideon era the best and I can understand why, but S3-S5 is my favorite stretch of the show, especially S3-S4.

I love some members of the team better than others, but I really do like all of them. 

This is one of the most re-watchable series ever. Even though I now know exactly how my favorite epiodes play out, somehow they're still suspenseful and draw me in every single time! 

[Hotchgirl18]

I have extremely unpopular opinions about the current season.  And about the recent events. I just won't express them explicitly. Most of y'all have a pretty good idea of where I stand. 

[normasm]

They're not as unpopular as you might believe, Hotchgirl. But I appreciate your passion. 

[Hotchgirl18]

3 hours ago, normasm said:

They're not as unpopular as you might believe, Hotchgirl. But I appreciate your passion. 

I will not back down or give up. I want what I want and that's how it's going to be. 

[JMO]

6 minutes ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

I will not back down or give up. I want what I want and that's how it's going to be. 

If you are referring to world peace, I'm right there with you, Hotchgirl!

[Hotchgirl18]

Just now, JMO said:

If you are referring to world peace, I'm right there with you, Hotchgirl!

Uh...Not really world peace. But close enough. I'm not gonna get what I want anytime soon. So I guess I'll just "have" to accept that. 

[Unkempt]

My unpopular opinion - I actually had  no problem with Reid referring to himself as a graduate of MIT.  The dude has multiple, multiple degrees, and I doubt they all came from Cal Tech.

[Hotchgirl18]

Another unpopular opinion: Can't stand Derek Morgan. 

[ReidFan]

27 minutes ago, Unkempt said:

My unpopular opinion - I actually had  no problem with Reid referring to himself as a graduate of MIT.  The dude has multiple, multiple degrees, and I doubt they all came from Cal Tech.

along those lines, wasn't it established like, right in the first episode that he had three PhD's? Isn't it probable that he'd have more by now, at least BA's or Masters anyway, after 12 years? :)

[Droogie]

7 minutes ago, ReidFan said:

along those lines, wasn't it established like, right in the first episode that he had three PhD's? Isn't it probable that he'd have more by now, at least BA's or Masters anyway, after 12 years? :)

And an IQ higher than Einstein's, no less.  Plus remember he told Hotch, in S5 (not good with episode names) that he the way he got even with his father (in response to whatever it is that Hotch said that I just can't remember ATM), was to "keep getting PhDs."

But to address that, I guess maybe they needed to devote more than five minutes in any given episode, for the last few seasons, to his intelligence, and what that actually means, rather than just having him spout facts from Wikipedia.

Edited March 19, 2017 by Droogie

[Kara101]

2 hours ago, Droogie said:

And an IQ higher than Einstein's, no less.  Plus remember he told Hotch, in S5 (not good with episode names) that he the way he got even with his father (in response to whatever it is that Hotch said that I just can't remember ATM), was to "keep getting PhDs."

But to address that, I guess maybe they needed to devote more than five minutes in any given episode, for the last few seasons, to his intelligence, and what that actually means, rather than just having him spout facts from Wikipedia.

Facts that more often than not are not even true. Do not ever look up any of the facts that Reid spouts or you will be extremely frustrated with the shows utter incompetence. Most of the time it is either outright disproven or a very controversial opinion by one person that Reid states as fact. 

Before I edited this I went on a huge rant about the idiocy of them messing up spousal privilege. Turns out, they didn't mess it up. Spousal privilege has two parts, communications privilege and testimony privilege. Communications privilege is when words spoken between spouses that were deemed confidential in a marriage cannot be used as evidence unless both spouses agree on it being used. So, I actually think the show got it right. Whoops:/ 

Edited March 19, 2017 by Haleysgalaxy

[Unkempt]

12 hours ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

Another unpopular opinion: Can't stand Derek Morgan. 

Aw, why not?  I thought you liked aggressive alpha males, LOL!

[Hotchgirl18]

1 hour ago, Unkempt said:

Aw, why not?  I thought you liked aggressive alpha males, LOL!

His personality comes off as haughty, to me. I like aggressive alpha males. Like Aaron Hotchner. Quiet, stoic, authoritative men with just a hint of a dark side.  Despite not watching the current season, I do like Alvez. He's better than Morgan as far as the aggressiveness is. ;)

[JMO]

I think Hotch pointed out the difference between them in 'Mayhem', when he said that Morgan doesn't trust his colleagues as much as he would need to, to be a leader.  He has more confidence in himself, and has trouble delegating, when it comes to the big things.  

Ironically, that kind of personality trait is as likely to be born of insecurity than anything else.  Morgan had a need to prove to himself, over and over, that he was bigger and stronger than the bad guy, especially after his history with Carl Buford. 

I think Hotch had more than a hint of a dark side.  He was definitely stoic, and most often quiet.  But he could erupt, and I like to think that his eruptions bothered him.  What is it called when he does that?  A 'Hotchalanche'?  In the early seasons, before Hotch was repeatedly traumatized, he had a sense of humor, which made only rare (and very welcome) appearances in later seasons, and he was a considerably 'lighter' character.  It wasn't surprising that the loss of his family changed him, but I did miss that aspect of his personality.  

[Hotchgirl18]

Just now, JMO said:

I think Hotch pointed out the difference between them in 'Mayhem', when he said that Morgan doesn't trust his colleagues as much as he would need to, to be a leader.  He has more confidence in himself, and has trouble delegating, when it comes to the big things.  

Ironically, that kind of personality trait is as likely to be born of insecurity than anything else.  Morgan had a need to prove to himself, over and over, that he was bigger and stronger than the bad guy, especially after his history with Carl Buford. 

I think Hotch had more than a hint of a dark side.  He was definitely stoic, and most often quiet.  But he could erupt, and I like to think that his eruptions bothered him.  What is it called when he does that?  A 'Hotchalanche'?  In the early seasons, before Hotch was repeatedly traumatized, he had a sense of humor, which made only rare (and very welcome) appearances in later seasons, and he was a considerably 'lighter' character.  It wasn't surprising that the loss of his family changed him, but I did miss that aspect of his personality.  

I enjoyed the scene in Mayhem where Hotch told Morgan off. Makes me "excited" every time. 

 But, oh yeah, I think he had more than a hint of a dark side. Stoic and he had that glare and voice to prove it.  Which is quite attractive to me. I did enjoy it when he erupted. Foyet changed him and Mr. Scratch brought it out. Too bad we won't get to see it again, so TPTB: FRENCH TOAST YOU!! 

I say French toast, but you know what I mean. 

[JMO]

3 minutes ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

I enjoyed the scene in Mayhem where Hotch told Morgan off. Makes me "excited" every time. 

 But, oh yeah, I think he had more than a hint of a dark side. Stoic and he had that glare and voice to prove it.  Which is quite attractive to me. I did enjoy it when he erupted. Foyet changed him and Mr. Scratch brought it out. Too bad we won't get to see it again, so TPTB: FRENCH TOAST YOU!! 

I say French toast, but you know what I mean. 

Actually, I love French Toast.  I didn't really see the exchange between Morgan and Hotch as 'telling off'.  I saw it more as Hotch pushing Morgan in a direction, and telling him what it was going to take for him to be a true leader.  That's tough love mentoring.

[Hotchgirl18]

1 minute ago, JMO said:

Actually, I love French Toast.  I didn't really see the exchange between Morgan and Hotch as 'telling off'.  I saw it more as Hotch pushing Morgan in a direction, and telling him what it was going to take for him to be a true leader.  That's tough love mentoring.

I love French toast too. I don't think I should say the word I want to say to TPTB, and I prefer "French toast." I enjoyed it when Hotch told Morgan to, "Take a walk. Now." 

 He should've told Morgan off more often. 

[normasm]

Yeah, that scene in Mayhem, when Morgan was waaaaay out of line (From where I'm sittin', all of your attention is on her!) was good in that Morgan did realize he was a d*ckhead and came to apologize later. Hotch didn't take it personally, but he wasn't about to tolerate it, either.

[Hotchgirl18]

3 minutes ago, normasm said:

Yeah, that scene in Mayhem, when Morgan was waaaaay out of line (From where I'm sittin', all of your attention is on her!) was good in that Morgan did realize he was a d*ckhead and came to apologize later. Hotch didn't take it personally, but he wasn't about to tolerate it, either.

Now you see why I hate Morgan? Hotch never tolerated that crap.  

[normasm]

Well, consider this, HG: by Morgan being written this way, you get to see another little interesting piece of Hotch's complex personality! That's part of what was so special in the writing back then, when the writers knew each major character so well, it didn't matter which writer was writing that week.

I know it's really tough to write TV series - I couldn't begin to do it - but i can tell the difference between what was (very complex intersecting of different personalities, some that intertwined and some that clashed) and what now is (stories told more about the guest unsubs and victims and countless new team members that can be created on the fly, and less about canon characters who grow and change over time in a realistic fashion).

OK, I win for biggest run-on sentence on this forum!!!

[Hotchgirl18]

6 minutes ago, normasm said:

Well, consider this, HG: by Morgan being written this way, you get to see another little interesting piece of Hotch's complex personality! That's part of what was so special in the writing back then, when the writers knew each major character so well, it didn't matter which writer was writing that week.

I know it's really tough to write TV series - I couldn't begin to do it - but i can tell the difference between what was (very complex intersecting of different personalities, some that intertwined and some that clashed) and what now is (stories told more about the guest unsubs and victims and countless new team members that can be created on the fly, and less about canon characters who grow and change over time in a realistic fashion).

OK, I win for biggest run-on sentence on this forum!!!

Yeah, back when the writing was good and complex. When the cases were cerebral and everyone had a part. And the writers COULD WRITE for the characters. Now, it's all just torture porn (thanks a lot VW) 

We are NOT idiots and we shouldn't be treated as such. 

[normasm]

Yeah, babe, but it's a waste of energy getting so mad at people who couldn't care less what you think, OK? Be clear, i'm talking about Virgil and others, not people here, necessarily.

Enjoy what we have of the "real" Hotch, and try to let the rest go. Relish what they can't take away from you, a very complex and vibrant and nuanced character, and look forward to Thomas's next project (after he has some fun, which it looks like he's doing. Have you seen his hair?!).

[Hotchgirl18]

11 minutes ago, normasm said:

Yeah, babe, but it's a waste of energy getting so mad at people who couldn't care less what you think, OK? Be clear, i'm talking about Virgil and others, not people here, necessarily.

Enjoy what we have of the "real" Hotch, and try to let the rest go. Relish what they can't take away from you, a very complex and vibrant and nuanced character, and look forward to Thomas's next project (after he has some fun, which it looks like he's doing. Have you seen his hair?!).

I have seen his hair. :) 

And it's not just me who's sick of "The Torture Porn" show. We watch for the team dynamics and how they CATCH these awful people. Not blatantly justify what they're doing. Or worse, try to make them a childish, invincible cartoon villain. I may be 19. Doesn't mean I want to be lumped in with the teeny boppers, whom they're blatantly catering to. 

I don't care WHAT they try to do: They will NEVER take Hotch away from me. The possibilities are gone, but it's my duty to give him back what was stolen from him through fan fiction. Suck on that TPTB. 

[Hotchgirl18]

I like intense men like Aaron Hotchner. There's none on the show anymore.

[normasm]

IMO, Reid is quite intense. But that's just me.

[ReidFan]

1 minute ago, normasm said:

IMO, Reid is quite intense. But that's just me.

he is. very intense. he's just not an alpha male (according to HIM). He's a blinker :)

[Hotchgirl18]

51 minutes ago, normasm said:

IMO, Reid is quite intense. But that's just me.

I can try to see it, but I don't know what you mean. Your definition of "intense," must be quite different from mine.

[R3volver]

I'll throw in my (maybe) unpopular opinion: I actually really like all of the new team members, especially Walker.

But I do think it's too much change in a short amount of time.  If the writing was as good as it used to be I think it could've ended up working out well.

[normasm]

1 hour ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

I can try to see it, but I don't know what you mean. Your definition of "intense," must be quite different from mine.

Yes, it is. Let that be a mystery.

18 minutes ago, R3volver said:

I'll throw in my (maybe) unpopular opinion: I actually really like all of the new team members, especially Walker.

But I do think it's too much change in a short amount of time.  If the writing was as good as it used to be I think it could've ended up working out well.

I'm glad you like them. I have come to accept them. But I do dare say that the old writers would never have agreed to so many new characters in the space of 2 seasons. Even with one expected to be rotating out (Morgan).

[Hotchgirl18]

20 minutes ago, R3volver said:

I'll throw in my (maybe) unpopular opinion: I actually really like all of the new team members, especially Walker.

But I do think it's too much change in a short amount of time.  If the writing was as good as it used to be I think it could've ended up working out well.

I (sort of) like Alvez. He has a dog, so I'll give him that. And he's a tad better than Morgan. I'm just not fond of the actor who plays him. 

And my most unpopular opinion: Emily Prentiss deserves to be the Unit Chief as MUCH as I deserve to be a sports writer for ESPN. I hate her. 

[senin]

If I say that I like Reid, Hotch and Morgan would that be an unpopular opinion? (I will explain in another post, I'm tired at the moment and my brain is refusing to collaborate)

And if I add that I am beginning to like Luke, that makes my opinion really unpopular?? I really liked him in the last episode, when he was talking to the unsubs's mother, and in the promo for the next episode, when he is talking to Calvin Shaw... he looks so angry that he is almost scary. 

[JMO]

1 hour ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

I can try to see it, but I don't know what you mean. Your definition of "intense," must be quite different from mine.

It might be more similar for you in those times when Reid is intense and angry (eg, Uncanny Valley).  It may be harder for you to see when he is 'intent' and 'intense', such as when he makes a breakthrough or gets excited about an idea.  Both men are intense, but different things bring it on, and the expressions are different, because their personalities differ so much.  

This entire conversation is making me miss the Hotch/Reid interaction.  This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I could see Hotch grooming Reid for a leadership position.  I think Hotch respected Reid in a way that neither Gideon (who I think used him) nor Rossi (who is amused by him) would even consider.

[R3volver]

5 minutes ago, normasm said:

Yes, it is. Let that be a mystery.

I'm glad you like them. I have come to accept them. But I do dare say that the old writers would never have agreed to so many new characters in the space of 2 seasons. Even with one expected to be rotating out (Morgan).

 

Oh, I agree completely.  I think they should've waited to bring in Walker until season 13(if it were to happen).  They can't develop 3 characters appropriately and write this arc at the same time without failing miserably.  Even the best writers wouldn't try to juggle that.

[Willowy]

I like them all too, @senin, I'm just not attached to Luke like I was hoping to be, and like I am to the others. Although, if he keeps acting like a potential protector for Reid (without making him look weak), I imagine I'll soon be more on board.

[Hotchgirl18]

4 minutes ago, JMO said:

It might be more similar for you in those times when Reid is intense and angry (eg, Uncanny Valley).  It may be harder for you to see when he is 'intent' and 'intense', such as when he makes a breakthrough or gets excited about an idea.  Both men are intense, but different things bring it on, and the expressions are different, because their personalities differ so much.  

This entire conversation is making me miss the Hotch/Reid interaction.  This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I could see Hotch grooming Reid for a leadership position.  I think Hotch respected Reid in a way that neither Gideon (who I think used him) nor Rossi (who is amused by him) would even consider.

I remember the Uncanny Valley, and I definitely prefer that. 

I loved the Hotch/Reid interactions. Like in LDSK, they got each other. And that was so special. Hotch respected him a hell of a lot more than Gideon, who only saw a kid he could use for his brains. Actually, I miss Hotch, period and it's sad no one has filled his shoes (Emily doesn't count). 

Reid should've been the new Unit Chief.

[R3volver]

8 minutes ago, senin said:

If I say that I like Reid, Hotch and Morgan would that be an unpopular opinion? (I will explain in another post, I'm tired at the moment and my brain is refusing to collaborate)

And if I add that I am beginning to like Luke, that makes my opinion really unpopular?? I really liked him in the last episode, when he was talking to the unsubs's mother, and in the promo for the next episode, when he is talking to Calvin Shaw... he looks so angry that he is almost scary. 

 

I like them too.  I have varying opinions on the actors and I have favorite characters, but I've genuinely liked most of the team members. Just not Seaver.

[JMO]

Well, I don't know that Reid is quite ready yet.  Maybe one day.  

I also don't think anyone can fill Hotch's shoes. and I don't think Emily was meant to.  Every new leader puts their own imprint on the group they lead.  She will do her thing, just as Hotch did his.  

I know you're still in school, but once you have a long term job (guessing you might have held a job or two already?), you'll see how things can change, and be different, but not better or worse.  It's only human to compare, and plenty of people don't choose to adapt (so they move on), but most people focus on their own work, and keep doing what they're good at doing.  I think we're seeing that with the BAU.  Even if I don't recognize half of them.

[senin]

8 minutes ago, JMO said:

It might be more similar for you in those times when Reid is intense and angry (eg, Uncanny Valley).  It may be harder for you to see when he is 'intent' and 'intense', such as when he makes a breakthrough or gets excited about an idea.  Both men are intense, but different things bring it on, and the expressions are different, because their personalities differ so much.  

This entire conversation is making me miss the Hotch/Reid interaction.  This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I could see Hotch grooming Reid for a leadership position.  I think Hotch respected Reid in a way that neither Gideon (who I think used him) nor Rossi (who is amused by him) would even consider.

Will you please stop reading my mind?? 

I loved the interaction between Reid and Morgan , but the one between Hotch and Reid is a perfect mix of father/son, brother/brother, mentor/mentee ... 

[Mom x 3]

I like Luke also.  He has a very affable quality and I like that he laughs at Garcia.  Garcia, on the other hand, can go away anytime.  

I agree that Emily still doesn't seem to be "in charge" to me.  I feel like it's a joint venture with her and Rossi, and I just don't feel like the team has direction.  

Another very unpopular opinion:  while I think MGG is doing an excellent job with the material he is given, the appeal of Spencer Reid that was so prevalent in the first seasons is gone for me.  I hate the hair, the persistent hang dog look (not just present in the current arc), the boyish persona in a man that is in his mid-late 30's.  I really wish they would let him grow up.  My apologies to those of you who love him - no disrespect intended.  

[JMO]

I think I'm with you, Revolver.  (I just this second realized the significance of the name---yes, I can be slow on the uptake).  I like each of the new team members, including Walker, whose name I have finally memorized.  Tara took me a while, but I'm on board now.  But there are just too many of them, coming on too quickly.  If this is supposed to prepare us for a team turnover, I wish they would send all the newbies to work the case of the week, and leave the old team to deal with Reid and Scratch.  

[normasm]

19 minutes ago, JMO said:

It might be more similar for you in those times when Reid is intense and angry (eg, Uncanny Valley).  It may be harder for you to see when he is 'intent' and 'intense', such as when he makes a breakthrough or gets excited about an idea.  Both men are intense, but different things bring it on, and the expressions are different, because their personalities differ so much.  

This entire conversation is making me miss the Hotch/Reid interaction.  This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I could see Hotch grooming Reid for a leadership position.  I think Hotch respected Reid in a way that neither Gideon (who I think used him) nor Rossi (who is amused by him) would even consider.

Oh, this whole post so much!

[Hotchgirl18]

4 minutes ago, JMO said:

I think I'm with you, Revolver.  (I just this second realized the significance of the name---yes, I can be slow on the uptake).  I like each of the new team members, including Walker, whose name I have finally memorized.  Tara took me a while, but I'm on board now.  But there are just too many of them, coming on too quickly.  If this is supposed to prepare us for a team turnover, I wish they would send all the newbies to work the case of the week, and leave the old team to deal with Reid and Scratch.  

  Which should've been Hotch and Scratch. Sorry. I'm not gonna get over that.

9 minutes ago, JMO said:

Well, I don't know that Reid is quite ready yet.  Maybe one day.  

I also don't think anyone can fill Hotch's shoes. and I don't think Emily was meant to.  Every new leader puts their own imprint on the group they lead.  She will do her thing, just as Hotch did his.  

I know you're still in school, but once you have a long term job (guessing you might have held a job or two already?), you'll see how things can change, and be different, but not better or worse.  It's only human to compare, and plenty of people don't choose to adapt (so they move on), but most people focus on their own work, and keep doing what they're good at doing.  I think we're seeing that with the BAU.  Even if I don't recognize half of them.

Well the only job I've had was working at my church. But no one's risen up to fill the "stoic man with a dark side" archetype. 

[JMO]

3 minutes ago, Mom x 3 said:

I like Luke also.  He has a very affable quality and I like that he laughs at Garcia.  Garcia, on the other hand, can go away anytime.  

I agree that Emily still doesn't seem to be "in charge" to me.  I feel like it's a joint venture with her and Rossi, and I just don't feel like the team has direction.  

Another very unpopular opinion:  while I think MGG is doing an excellent job with the material he is given, the appeal of Spencer Reid that was so prevalent in the first seasons is gone for me.  I hate the hair, the persistent hang dog look (not just present in the current arc), the boyish persona in a man that is in his mid-late 30's.  I really wish they would let him grow up.  My apologies to those of you who love him - no disrespect intended.  

 I agree with everything about this post, including the treatment of Reid.  We've seen 'mature Reid' from time to time, and I sincerely wish he would stay.   Maybe, if MGG continues, this storyline will finally force all of the writers to write him maturely.  And I do think MGG has to own some of the 'hang dog look', which I wish would also disappear.  He knows how to look concerned and worried without looking like a lost little boy---he's shown us.  

As to the hair----I can take it, as long as it's combed. 

[R3volver]

8 minutes ago, JMO said:

I think I'm with you, Revolver.  (I just this second realized the significance of the name---yes, I can be slow on the uptake).  I like each of the new team members, including Walker, whose name I have finally memorized.  Tara took me a while, but I'm on board now.  But there are just too many of them, coming on too quickly.  If this is supposed to prepare us for a team turnover, I wish they would send all the newbies to work the case of the week, and leave the old team to deal with Reid and Scratch.  

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This is exactly what the writers should have been doing.

[ReidFan]

another possibly unpopular opinion: I want this prison thing resolved before it goes to court. Have <whoever, the 'old team' members> solve this and get Reid out of there *before* it has to go to court. This isn't a courtroom drama show.

but that might just be me.

[Hotchgirl18]

11 minutes ago, ReidFan said:

another possibly unpopular opinion: I want this prison thing resolved before it goes to court. Have <whoever, the 'old team' members> solve this and get Reid out of there *before* it has to go to court. This isn't a courtroom drama show.

but that might just be me.

If I want to watch a courtroom show, I'll watch judge Judy. 

[Mom x 3]

1 hour ago, Hotchgirl18 said:

If I want to watch a courtroom show, I'll watch judge Judy. 

Interesting tidbit:  Jim Clemente is a huge fan of Judge Judy.  He has complemented her several times on his podcast and states that she knows the law backwards and forwards, and that she is fair and objective.  Of course, he has also mentioned those judges that he personally encountered that he has felt were irresponsible and unjust.  If he has any part of this story arc, I hope he writes the judge like Judy.  His treatment of Reid in the past diminishes that hope somewhat.  

[normasm]

Just making a sad observation: personally, while watching Route 66, I find the "B" plot, the unsub and his daughter on the run, so much better than the Hotch plot, and the lack of proper team concern for him.

The guy who played Eddie was really good, and the unraveling of the plan to get his daughter and go make a new life was interesting. On the other hand, Hotch's journey through his mind's trauma, and especially the ridiculous portrayal of Foyet, was bad. Gibson acted his pants off (don't get too excited, HG), but it was badly written. It's true that someone nearly dying under anesthesia might imagine all kinds of surreal things going on that wouldn't make sense, and he might imagine his dead ex-wife giving her blessing to his current GF, but the writers should have been more careful, again, IMO, to take care of the canon characters. Not have Hayley "inviting" Foyet, or having Foyet hug her and Hotch. So ridiculous, and tarnished both Hayley and Foyet. It could have been done more subtly and creepier (Foyet), sadder (Hayley), more poignant.