Season 6: A Charming (?) Rey of Sunshine

[GHScorpiosRule]

Wrong thread! Moved to season five.

Edited November 2, 2023 by GHScorpiosRule

[Xeliou66]

24 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I FREAKIN’ LOVE William Kuntzler! I loved the tidbits of what he did in real life (Chicago Seven) as part of Adam’s earlier career when they worked together! “White Rabbit” is so, so good. And I don’t believe Susan felt ashamed of ANYTHING. The look on her face when Margaret testified at the end? PUH-LEAZE.

 

This was from season 5, not season 6. But yeah White Rabbit is a very good episode and it was really cool that they got a famous real life attorney to play himself in the episode, and incorporated his history into the show - “from the Chicago 7 to the Westchester 1”. Kuntzler was great. I don’t really think Susan felt ashamed of anything either, but I also don’t think she planned on getting anyone killed - I thought her final sentence was fair. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

This was from season 5, not season 6. But yeah White Rabbit is a very good episode and it was really cool that they got a famous real life attorney to play himself in the episode, and incorporated his history into the show - “from the Chicago 7 to the Westchester 1”. Kuntzler was great. I don’t really think Susan felt ashamed of anything either, but I also don’t think she planned on getting anyone killed - I thought her final sentence was fair. 

Oops! Posted in wrong thread! Will move it now.

[GHScorpiosRule]

I know this is the right thread for “Savior” though! And lookie-loo! Detective whose-name-I forgot from season one’s “Torrents of Greed” -the one in the van who knew that Beigel was meeting with a blonde (the corrupt inspector)-is the trial judge here!

[Xeliou66]

I watched some season 6 last night 

Charm City is the best of the Homicide crossovers IMO, I really liked the case of the subway bombing, and it was interesting to see how Briscoe/Curtis and Pembleton/Bayliss found the suspect at the same time through different avenues of investigation - that was interesting to watch. The detective work was great all around. And of course Munch was hilarious even though he was just in a couple of scenes in Baltimore. I also liked how this crossover wrapped up enough that you could enjoy this hour without needing to watch hour 2 to see how it finished - there was more to it in tracking down the accomplices but the subway bomber was convicted at the end of hour 1 and it wrapped up the case.    
I thought Jack did a strong job prosecuting, and the defense attorney seemed like a racist, he was using nasty stereotypes to try to paint the case as being about a racial agenda, I guess because Jack had a very strong case he just tried to distract the jury. 
I still wish they would show part 2 when these episodes are shown, but this one at least wrapped up enough that it isn’t necessary to watch part 2 to enjoy part 1. 

[ML89]

48 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

Charm City is the best of the Homicide crossovers IMO, I really liked the case of the subway bombing, and it was interesting to see how Briscoe/Curtis and Pembleton/Bayliss found the suspect at the same time through different avenues of investigation - that was interesting to watch.

For me, Frank and Rey not liking each other was the best part...I did love how competitive the teams were too. 

[DXD526]

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Frank and Rey not liking each other was the best part

😄 Since Frank is one of my favorite TV characters of all time, and I could never stand the sanctimonious Rey, Pembleton giving Curtis the side-eye was hilarious!

[andromeda331]

I love Lennie and Munch in that episode. I could watch those two all day long.

[Xeliou66]

7 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

I love Lennie and Munch in that episode. I could watch those two all day long.

Lennie and Munch didn’t meet until part 2 of that episode, but yeah they were awesome from the start - hilarious when it came out that Munch’s ex wife slept with Briscoe once. Briscoe and Munch worked together more closely in the following 2 crossovers. 

[andromeda331]

On 2/8/2024 at 6:13 AM, Xeliou66 said:

Lennie and Munch didn’t meet until part 2 of that episode, but yeah they were awesome from the start - hilarious when it came out that Munch’s ex wife slept with Briscoe once. Briscoe and Munch worked together more closely in the following 2 crossovers. 

Yeah, that was funny.

[andromeda331]

The murderer in Paranoid was crazy. She stabbed her roommate dozens of times and claim she was trying to poison her. She wanted too or did attack a cabbie who made her five minutes later for an interview, and stabbed her sister to death because she was abusive.

I have hard time imagining Megan was normal before her parents' both died. That would be really hard but to start stabbing people because of it? For being brilliant she was also an idiot for thinking a jury was going to acquit her. Ah, no, she has a tragic past but that normally doesn't result and becoming a stabber. No jury would have let her go.

I like the lawyer, I was always a fan of Sandy Duncan, too bad this was her only episode.

Edited November 25, 2024 by andromeda331

[Xeliou66]

1 hour ago, andromeda331 said:

The murderer in Paranoid was crazy. She stabbed her roommate dozens of times and claim she was trying to poison her. She wanted too or did attack a cabbie who made her five minutes later for an interview, and stabbed her sister to death because she was abusive.

I have hard time imagining Megan was normal before her parents' both died. That would be really hard but to start stabbing people because of it? For being brilliant she was also an idiot for thinking a jury was going to acquit her. Ah, no, she has a tragic past but that normally doesn't result and becoming a stabber. No jury would have let her go.

I like the lawyer, I was always a fan of Sandy Duncan, too bad this was her only episode.

Yeah she was crazy and was rightfully sent to an institution. It’s a good episode - I liked how Adam came up with the idea to charge fraud in order to get the case into a courtroom, and Jack was very good in it. I liked the defense lawyer as well, seemed like her and Jack had a romantic past, too bad it was her only appearance 

[andromeda331]

11 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Yeah she was crazy and was rightfully sent to an institution. It’s a good episode - I liked how Adam came up with the idea to charge fraud in order to get the case into a courtroom, and Jack was very good in it. I liked the defense lawyer as well, seemed like her and Jack had a romantic past, too bad it was her only appearance 

That was a great idea from Adam.

[txhorns79]

On 11/25/2024 at 1:13 AM, Xeliou66 said:

I liked the defense lawyer as well, seemed like her and Jack had a romantic past, too bad it was her only appearance 

Sandy Duncan is the queen of cheerful perkiness.  I liked having a defense attorney who got that her client was "nutso" and needed help, as opposed to being found not guilty. 

I've been watching the show on Hulu.  One thing that I noticed when watching the Season 6 episode "Custody," the adoptive family gave the cops a current picture of their son (he looks the same when the cops find him on the bus) and said when he came to them he was malnourished and underweight.  Later in the episode, they when to the perp's place of work and she has the same picture of the kid taped up at her desk.  The perp acknowledged only having first seen her bio kid after he was adopted at the zoo where she took him.  She acknowledged having to bribe the social services victim to get the kid's current information only a couple of days before the kidnapping.  My question was: Where did she get the up to date picture for her desk? 

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[andromeda331]

11 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

Sandy Duncan is the queen of cheerful perkiness.  I liked having a defense attorney who got that her client was "nutso" and needed help, as opposed to being found not guilty. 

I love Sandy Duncan. I know it's her job to defend the client but in this case but even she knew she had to "lose".  Her client needed to be locked up. 

 

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I've been watching the show on Hulu.  One thing that I noticed when watching the Season 6 episode "Custody," the adoptive family gave the cops a current picture of their son (he looks the same when the cops find him on the bus) and said when he came to them he was malnourished and underweight.  Later in the episode, they when to the perp's place of work and she has the same picture of the kid taped up at her desk.  The perp acknowledged only having first seen her bio kid after he was adopted at the zoo where she took him.  She acknowledged having to bribe the social services victim to get the kid's current information only a couple of days before the kidnapping.  My question was: Where did she get the up to date picture for her desk? 

Good question. 

[Xeliou66]

Savages is a pretty good episode, it was a great twist that it was the accountant Sandig who killed the undercover cop and not his drug dealer client, I liked how they figured it out, good detective work. Curtis was a prick as usual though and I loved Anita chewing his ass out when he got rough with the suspect in interrogation, Curtis was such a smug prick, I really couldn’t stand him a lot of the time, and he kept on being a wiseass to Anita and Lennie throughout this episode. It was interesting seeing Adam having to decide whether or not to seek the death penalty, I liked his interaction with his judge friend, I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I felt no sympathy for Sandig and I didn’t buy his remorse act - he was a greedy bastard who was just sorry he got caught, his wife saying he “wasn’t a bad man” was pathetic, yeah he was, he put 6 bullets in a detective so his financial crimes wouldn’t get exposed , just because he was well educated and rich and on the surface respectable doesn’t make him any less evil. It was a clever move by Jack to have Sandig charged for killing a witness to a crime so he could charge murder 1.

Jeopardy is probably my favorite episode of season 6 - an awesome case. I love Adam going to the police station to confront the corrupt judge, that was great, only time we saw Adam at the police station, he was great in that scene where he just gives everyone a look letting them know he wants to talk to the judge alone and then tells the judge he’s going to prison. I also liked how Adam realized something was off with Judge Hines because of how he had ruled on past cases, referencing one of Ben’s cases where Hines had ruled differently under the same circumstances. Jack was great here as well, I liked his argument about how double jeopardy didn’t apply because the defendant was never in jeopardy and the defendant couldn’t profit from illegal activities. I liked Jack telling Nicodos that he kicked the system and don’t be surprised when it turns around and bites him after the judge reinstated the charges. I like the detective stuff as well and how they zeroed in on Peter Nicodos as the perp. It’s a great episode. 

[Irlandesa]

2 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Jeopardy is probably my favorite episode of season 6

Mine is Humiliation.  I loved the Machiavellian wife.

Looking back on this, even though I didn't like Ray, Seasons 6 and 7 of this show had some the best twisty cases. 

[Xeliou66]

8 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

Mine is Humiliation.  I loved the Machiavellian wife.

Looking back on this, even though I didn't like Ray, Seasons 6 and 7 of this show had some the best twisty cases. 

Humiliation is on right now on WE - another good one.

I think I’ve said this before on here, but I think season 7 is L&O’s best season from a case standpoint - just one excellent case after another - off the top of my head from season 7 we have ID, We Like Mike, Terminal, Legacy, Working Mom, Matrimony, Survivor, Menace, Past Imperfect, Barter - all those are excellent cases, some of my all time favorites really. I dislike Curtis but yeah there are a lot of great cases during his time on the show. 

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

I think I’ve said this before on here, but I think season 7 is L&O’s best season from a case standpoint

IA.  I've said the same.  But when I looked for other cases I liked, I had forgotten that many of them happened in S6 which is why I included both.  But S7 had an insane run.

[Xeliou66]

Season 6 has a lot of great cases as well - Jeopardy is my favorite, Encore is a close second, it was great bringing back Dobson the sleazy club/restaurant owner who kept having his wives killed, and Encore was an excellent plot. Other very strong season 6 episodes off the top of my head are Hot Pursuit, Paranoia, Trophy, Atonement, Slave and the first Homicide crossover Charm City. Season 6 has a lot of great episodes, I think my opinion of the season is somewhat diminished by my hatred of the season finale Aftershock - it was complete garbage and a terrible exit for Claire and it brings the season down a notch IMO.