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Past Seasons: The Clara Oswald Years


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A place to discuss particular episodes, arcs and moments from the Clara seasons. Please remember this isn't a complete catch-all topic -- check out the forum for character topics and other places for show-related talk.

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I really don't think there was any thought given to that storyline at all. At first it seemed like Missy was deliberately collecting people who had some kind of association with the Doctor, perhaps specifically people who had died because of him. Instead it was all dead people! Everywhere! Which made no sense, was depressing as hell, and was completely pointless.

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I really don't think there was any thought given to that storyline at all. At first it seemed like Missy was deliberately collecting people who had some kind of association with the Doctor, perhaps specifically people who had died because of him. Instead it was all dead people! Everywhere! Which made no sense, was depressing as hell, and was completely pointless.

I think it was misdirection tbh. We were led to believe that it was only people with some sort of connection at the moment of their death to connect to the "am i a good man" storyline but then it turned out to be all about missy.

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Since it happened under Clara's watch (so to speak)

True.  And not just Amy and Rory.  Even sadder, in my opinion, that's apparently what happened to The Brigadier.  Nice. 

 

Moffat tends to overdo everything.   

No. No. No!  It never happened!  The whole thing was a Master/Missy dream trip .  

 

inappropriate word Moffat!

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i just realized something seeing a rerun of "the girl who lived"....

 

ishildr was already in contact with the timelords in that era cause the doctor kept asking "how do you know that?"  she knew about his companions even though the time period she was currently in, i don't think the doctor has taken on companions from before the 20th century.  she knows that he always runs away.  she knows about his ship.

 

the timelords have already made contact with her to trap him through her.

 

could it be that the timelords were in the dimension of where that lion alien was from and they sent that lion through the dimension to open it from the other side in exchange for invading earth?

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Katarina came from ancient Greece, Jamie McCrimmmon came from 1742, Victoria Waterfield came from the Victorian era..

And, Leela was from an earth colony in the far future; but that was classic who. Modern Who only seems to be interested in pretty girls from 21st century England.

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The "dinosaurs in space" ep of new who had the Doctor travelling with Nefertiti and picking up the big game hunter from the early 20th century with whom he'd clearly had previous adventures. I also think conversations with River indicated they both knew Cleopatra. And "demons' run" had the paternoster gang he clearly had met before. (They reappear as well.) So there have been signs that he's not *all* about chicks from the 21st century. Those are just the stories we're told, presumably because they are considered more accessible for us.

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The "dinosaurs in space" ep of new who had the Doctor travelling with Nefertiti and picking up the big game hunter from the early 20th century with whom he'd clearly had previous adventures. I also think conversations with River indicated they both knew Cleopatra. And "demons' run" had the paternoster gang he clearly had met before. (They reappear as well.) So there have been signs that he's not *all* about chicks from the 21st century. Those are just the stories we're told, presumably because they are considered more accessible for us.

One-off guest characters don't really count as 'companions' (and don't get me started on the subject of throwing characters we've never seen before onto the screen and claiming a past relationship with the Doctor). And yes, present day characters are considered more accessible - although I think that's underestimating the audience, quite frankly - but even within the bounds of 'present day' there could be more variety than we're seeing. But I really think the audience could cope with a companion who wasn't from today - sticking with them is all about writer convenience, not audience convenience. It's easier to write the kind of plot-driven story arcs we've seen in recent years if you don't also have to concentrate on the kind of character story you'd need to tell with, for e.g., a historical companion - but where you fall on that issue really depends on whether you prefer character-led or plot-driven stories. Me, I prefer it when stories are driven by characters, rather than characters being driven by stories, which is exactly the reason I've never been able to engage with Moffat's Doctor Who, in which plot drives everything and character is barely a consideration.

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