S02.E13: Mr. and Mrs. Mxyzptlk

[Shades of Scarlet]

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I was on Maggie's side on terms of Valentine's Day. She told Alex she hated it and Alex should have respected her wishes without Maggie having to open up and tell her about a major trauma to justify it.  Also I didn't like Kara telling Maggie that it's important to Alex so she should change her ways. If it's important to Alex, she should celebrate in a way that respects Maggie's wishes.

I was in a relationship where the default was always what he wanted unless I could justify to him why it should be what I wanted and it was exhausting.  I don't wish that on Maggie.

They've also failed to give Mon-El a storyline outside of Kara.  He's dismissive of her, he's a fratboy, he falls for her and wants to be better to mate with her.  Even if you hate James' Guardian storyline and think he's useless at CatCo, at least he's got something to do apart from Kara.  Mon-El has nothing (I don't count his job at the alien bar because even that is always about Kara).

It feels like they are going so all in with the Kara/Mon El romance while giving him nothing really of his own that they expect to write him out at the end of the season.  He's this year's Kara-romance.  On the other hand, that may be my wishful thinking and he's here to stay for the long term.  Since I find him as appetizing as overly processed white bread with mayo, I hope it's the former.

TVLine is the only other place I go to regularly and many posts are pretty scathing about Mon-El there too.

Understood, but I wouldn't say most by any stretch.  I guess this is the part where I list all the sites I visit where Mon-El is quite popular, or better yet, not.  :)  I won't mention either except just this once that much of the anti-ME sentiment out there seems quite manufactured to me, this board excepted.  Here, the posters who don't like him defend their arguments well.  Elsewhere, not so much.  In any event, and this is one of those times when people can choose to believe me or not, at their pleasure, he's (character and Chris Wood) quite popular with the cast and crew.  Again, YMMV. 

[Rushmoras]

12 hours ago, MarkHB said:

Personally, I'm a non-fan of serialization,  so the less time they spent on long arcs, the happier I am with the show (or any show).

Then in my opinion it should have been a police procedural or at the very least a soap opera (but, then again, it's becoming one actually), because to have a series about a superhero and to not have any story-arc for that superhero is a waist of time in my opinion.

[AudienceofOne]

On 20/02/2017 at 11:33 PM, statsgirl said:

This episode seemed to me to reinforce how you felt about the show going into the episode.  If you're a Kara/Mon El shipper, you'll be happy because there was a lot about them and it ended with a fade to black as they were making out on the sofa. 

Ah... no. I was a Kara/Mon El shipper until three seconds into the episode when Mon El started behaving like a macho dick.

But I have to give Supergirl a round of congratulations because I thought NOTHING could be worse than the Arrow Valentine's episode with the fake wedding.  Why, why, do comic book writers think this whole concept is funny? It's not. It's offensive. 

[secnarf]

I don't think I've ever hated Mon-El more than in this episode. He went from annoying but sometimes hilarious to someone I just want off my screen ASAP. I feel like we are going in circles and I really don't like him with Kara.

I'm also getting a bit sick of the same retreaded storyline with Alex and Maggie. I just want to see them be normal and happy.

[sskrill]

RE:  Maggie and Alex

They're both at fault.  Maggie lied and complained about commercialism when she could have said "I've had some bad experiences - I don't want to revisit them, please leave it be."  Maggie likely would have talked to her about it at some point but just not that early in the relationship.

Alex lied and said it was a stupid holiday.  If she had just been honest up front maybe they could have found a compromise without the drama.

As someone else said - they both need to communicate better.

And I really wish Maggie would stop calling her Danvers when they're not in a work related environment.  

[kalamac]

I'm with you on everything but the Danvers thing. I don't know why but I always like when couple use each other's last names. Maybe it goes back to Mulder and Scully being one of my first ships.

[stealinghome]

I don't mind it, mostly because it seems like Danvers has turned into Maggie's pet name for Alex.

[John Potts]

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stealinghome   But Maggie clearly articulated that she doesn't like the holiday and didn't want to celebrate it, and Alex *completely* disregarded Maggie's stated wishes and in the process stirred up some real trauma from Maggie's past
statsgirl I was on Maggie's side on terms of Valentine's Day. She told Alex she hated it and Alex should have respected her wishes
legaleagle53  That means that Alex would never celebrate it at all.  That's a little unfair to Alex, don't you think?

To throw in my $0.02, I'm with stealinghome & statsgirl here: Maggie had expressed a clear dislike of the whole commercialised fakeness of Valentine's Day and Alex went ahead and doubled down on it. She would be perfectly entitled to say, "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I want to celebrate Valentine's Day with YOU - is there no compromise we can come to?" Maybe suggest booking a shooting range and playing strip target practice - winner gets to eat tiramasu off the loser's (naked) body: it's not conventional, but it's sexy/romantic. I'd relate it to the following (real world) exchange of the dim & distant past (somewhat paraphrased):

JP: Hey, neither of us has anyone to be with on Valentine's Day - why don't we go and get a drink together?

JV: OK, but let's find a place that has no Hearts, no flowers and no sappy songs.

JP: Sure - why don't we meet at the top of Park Street and walk down until we find a place?

Now (Surprise!) one of those people was me and the evening went fine - because I actually paid attention to what she'd said and stuck to it (which I was fine with - I really didn't mean it to be a romantic evening*). Alex didn't do that: she went and did exactly what Maggie had asked her NOT to do. ALEX should have been the one apologising, not Maggie.
 

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ZennyKenny I honestly thought that the alien girl (forgot her name) was going to use Winn to get to the DEO, and was pleasantly surprised at the genuine turn at the end

tennisgurl Why can this mixed species romance work so well in just one episode, while K/M is such a bore?

 

I was wondering if the alien girl (who made me think of Jaylah from Star Trek no colon Beyond) was going to turn out to be Mxy in disguise. But they were easily my favourite couple of the episode.

* Even if we did get engaged 3 months later!

[Snorfbat]

Nobody's mentioned my favorite moment: Supergirl elbowing the thankful bank robber in the face.

Melissa Benoist really sold it. "Thanks, Supergirl!" Thunk!

Heh.