S08.E09: Head Games

[zxy556575]

Has there been more disagreement among the judges this season than there usually is? Peck and Nunez still seem to be biased for their team members even without teams.

I haven't looked at the close-up photos yet but thought the "Family" tat was fine as far as lettering goes. It's never one of my favorite designs because making the letters legible usually takes a back seat to making them fancy.

Mike left without a tantrum, which I applaud. I'd get a tattoo from him any day.

Nice to see Ryan get another win, but overall I thought the quality was good on all the tattoos. It's getting tight in there. Next week looks like some kind of melee, with Kelly tearing up defending herself.

Edited October 19, 2016 by lordonia

[azshadowwalker]

I would have rather Sketchy have left, since he's a monumental dickhead. That Family tattoo was completely lacking in creativity and just unappealing. He's lucky that Mike fucked up even more,  and did it two weeks in a row. Also lucky that Mike doesn't bring the shitty drama.  I would be growing my hair out immediately if that Family tattoo was on my head. It was the worst of the day, IMO. 

What are these men doing celebrating a woman going home just because she's a woman? That's so unattractive. They shouldn't be so vocal about their sex. 

This was the second time this season that the editors let slip that Mike was tight with the women, and considered part of the alliance. The clip with Gia, Ryan and Mike talking about the paranoia of the other men was the first. Tonight, it was specifically mentioned that Mike was the weakest of the women's alliance, so the dudes should target him. Strange that the guys working together against the women and Mike isn't controversial. 

Ryan did a fantastic job.

The shit about Kelly doing too much was just that. They create these challenges. They set the time limit. They criticize and boot artists if the tattoo isn't perfect, even with the ridiculous parameters. Canvasses have quit before, and they didn't get melodramatic about it. That tattoo kicked ass. Shut up, judges. 

Those boys should stop talking during the judging. Who do they think they are? 

Edited October 19, 2016 by azshadowwalker

[niklj]

Sketchy basically said that all the others were "wasting time doing all the artsy stuff." Sounds like a true Ink Master. We have another Kruseman on our hands, someone who just wants to do the bare minimum and hope the strong players knock each other out.

This dumbness of the team aspect was highlighted even more today--they should just make Dave the sole judge. 

Still watching, though, because I enjoy Kelly and Ryan. I'm glad that week after week the Twitter voters seem to be of the same opinion as me.

[zxy556575]

50 minutes ago, azshadowwalker said:

The shit about Kelly doing too much was just that. They create these challenges. They set the time limit. They criticize and boot artists if the tattoo isn't perfect, even with the ridiculous parameters. Canvasses have quit before, and they didn't get melodramatic about it. That tattoo kicked ass. Shut up, judges. 

That seemed odd to me, too. Plenty of canvases have quit before and the judges have been critical of the artists because of it, but it was more along the lines of: you should have been able to calm them down. They seemed to think this time that nobody could have handled Kelly's tattoo, which obviously is wrong because the canvas did sit through it. The second day's tattoo wasn't necessarily going to be the same level of detail again.

How long does the pain from a new tattoo last, anyway?

[Apatee]

I'm not a fan of head tattoos, but most of them were surprisingly good in quality. Was expecting a few more disasters when they announced the challenge.

Mike has been really weak, especially the last few outings. For sure the right decision. Churned out three bad tats in a row. Wouldn't mind Sketchy going home soon if he keeps cruising. Hate the contestants that churn out routine work and play the middle ground. 

I think Ryan is emerging more every week as the front runner of the competition, so long she doesn't stumble over a color challenge. Her designs and application are crazy clean for a young artist, reminiscent of Anthony last year. 

Edited October 19, 2016 by Apatee

[Maharincess]

I don't watch this show a lot but when I remember it's on and catch it I always enjoy it.  I have a question though, are we really supposed to pretend that the first half of the perfectly healed head tattoos were done the day before?  I was married to a tattoo artist and have nine of my own and there's no way in hell that those were done the day before.  

Why do they do that? Why don't they just say that the second half was done after the first half healed?  

[Charlesman]

Apparently none of the contestants have ever seen the show before. It was obvious that they would switch canvases for day 2 from the start. 

[psychoticstate]

10 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

Those boys should stop talking during the judging. Who do they think they are? 

I agree.  I think I've posted on almost every episode that no one should be talking during the judging other than the judges.  Boys and girls have been guilty of it.

Sketchy is definitely following what Kruseman did.  Stuff like that normally will bite you in the butt because he's operating on the assumption that someone will perform weaker than him.  It worked this week but the remaining artists have gotten smaller in number so he'd better step it up.

Mike gave the most gracious exit I think I have ever seen on this show.  No shit talking, no defending.  He let his work stand on its own because it is what it is.  Others could take a cue from his page.

Don't care for head tattoos.  Interesting point, @Maharincess.  The photos we saw certainly did not look like brand new tattoos.  No redness or irritation?  Did they say if Kelly's canvas was in pain and that's why she wasn't returning?  Or was that producer manipulation?  I'm glad that Kevin didn't get screwed from not having the canvas come back. 

The cheese stands alone but I'll say it.  I don't like Ryan.  Her work is fine, I just don't like her.  Don't know why.

Still love Dave.

Still miss Josh.

[zxy556575]

2 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

I think I've posted on almost every episode that no one should be talking during the judging other than the judges. Boys and girls have been guilty of it.

"There will be no jury of the peers." Pfft. Then leave those excess mouths back in the house or tell them to shut it.

I guess I assumed the photos in the online galleries and that we see magnified on the show were taken a few weeks later? I never really thought it through, but that would mean the judges are seeing something slightly different on the day. The earlier seasons had the canvases accompany their artists during judging to show the piece in person.

[themiki]

I kinda get the feeling that Sketchy isn't coasting. I think he's been doing his best and assuming he was going to win, and then pretending he wasn't really trying when he realized how much better everyone else's work was. 

[Inkmaster0345]

This team concept might be the most poorly executed idea in the history of competitive reality TV shows. It makes no sense. Not once (outside of the first challenge with the cohesive back pieces) have they done anything as a team. They've spent the whole season competing against their teammates and almost no time working with them. When the judges make references such as "I hope my team does well" or "I want all of his team to go home first" it doesn't strike a chord at all. It seems as though it's now just every artist for themselves like a normal season, so how does it matter which "team" you used to belong to? The whole thing is just odd.

Agree with everyone else. The tattoos this week were generally good. No idea what Mike's deal was. Have we ever seen someone who was assumed to be so strong just suddenly flame out like that? I can't think of anyone in the previous 7 season's who has done so. Nate Beavers also really annoys me. He's done 90% mediocre tattoos since he's been there and always has some lame excuse. He's the token "I have 25 years of experience therefore I am good" contestant this season. 

Sad to see that after a couple of decent weeks, it's back to the BS drama. The Nikki-Boneface war is easily the most annoying feud in the history of the show. Their bickering makes me miss St Marq and Magic Mike, at least I found their antics to be somewhat amusing. 

Ryan, in addition to putting out great tattoos, is getting an incredible edit. I've been saying it since week 1 that she is a lock to go to the finals. As we saw with Anthony last year, the show seems to give preferential treatment/editing/representation to certain artists. Her tattoos alone are enough to consider her a threat to win it all. But when you factor in her social media presence, her screen time, and the fact that every ink master promotion has her in it, it seems almost impossible that she won't be standing on that stage at the end. 

Eric is also a clear frontrunner. No bad tattoos and consistent quality work. He was the #1 overall pick in the draft (Nunez even said "He's my pick to win it all") and seems to be incredibly respected by the other artists. It's interesting that he hasn't won a tattoo of the day yet. If my memory serves correctly, last night was the 3rd time that he was "runner up" on the day. 

Ryan and Eric will take 1st and 2nd in this competition (not sure about order, likely Ryan 1st) book it. Gian and Kelly will compete for 3rd/4th. 

Sketchy took a hit this week and showed real weakness for the 1st time. What a douchebag. 

[PepperMonkey]

I don't DISlike Ryan but I'm not over the moon over her, either. I do think she's an excellent tattooist.

I'm team Kelly, though. If we are to FINALLY have a female winner, please let it be her.

[qtpye]

9 hours ago, Inkmaster0345 said:

This team concept might be the most poorly executed idea in the history of competitive reality TV shows. It makes no sense. Not once (outside of the first challenge with the cohesive back pieces) have they done anything as a team. They've spent the whole season competing against their teammates and almost no time working with them. When the judges make references such as "I hope my team does well" or "I want all of his team to go home first" it doesn't strike a chord at all. It seems as though it's now just every artist for themselves like a normal season, so how does it matter which "team" you used to belong to? The whole thing is just odd.

Sad to see that after a couple of decent weeks, it's back to the BS drama. The Nikki-Boneface war is easily the most annoying feud in the history of the show. Their bickering makes me miss St Marq and Magic Mike, at least I found their antics to be somewhat amusing. 

Ryan, in addition to putting out great tattoos, is getting an incredible edit. I've been saying it since week 1 that she is a lock to go to the finals. As we saw with Anthony last year, the show seems to give preferential treatment/editing/representation to certain artists. Her tattoos alone are enough to consider her a threat to win it all. But when you factor in her social media presence, her screen time, and the fact that every ink master promotion has her in it, it seems almost impossible that she won't be standing on that stage at the end. 

Eric is also a clear frontrunner. No bad tattoos and consistent quality work. He was the #1 overall pick in the draft (Nunez even said "He's my pick to win it all") and seems to be incredibly respected by the other artists. It's interesting that he hasn't won a tattoo of the day yet. If my memory serves correctly, last night was the 3rd time that he was "runner up" on the day. 

Ryan and Eric will take 1st and 2nd in this competition (not sure about order, likely Ryan 1st) book it. Gian and Kelly will compete for 3rd/4th. 

Sketchy took a hit this week and showed real weakness for the 1st time. What a douchebag. 

 

8 hours ago, PepperMonkey said:

I don't DISlike Ryan but I'm not over the moon over her, either. I do think she's an excellent tattooist.

I'm team Kelly, though. If we are to FINALLY have a female winner, please let it be her.

Agreed that the team concept is lame and really has not changed the competition in anyway. 

I think Ryan would be this show's dream of a female winner.  She is a very attractive young woman covered head to toe in tattoos, who is very talented.  She is like their very own Kat Von D (who I think was Peck's ex wife), before Kat Von D became a jerk.  I do also like Kelly and definitely think she is also a top contender.

[psychoticstate]

I'd rather see Kelly win than Ryan.  I find her attitude better and more easy going.  Ryan is a good artist but she's been one to take an attitude of females getting hard canvases.  So?  I say this as a female - - all the canvases should be hard if you're competing to be the master of something.

[Charlesman]

"I want something that conveys the idea of family"

"OK, how about I write the word FAMILY on your head in big black letters with a skull?"

 

Seriously, WTF?

[belligerent]

It seems less that they're working as a "team" and more like, Nunez picked this half to win and Peck picked this other half to win, so if one of theirs wins over the other one's, they get bragging rights or something.

Sketchy can go home anytime. Preferably weeks ago.

[azshadowwalker]

Kari, who got the kick ass raven tattoo from Kelly, is letting everyone know that she loves her tattoo, she was sick during the taping, and she in no way blames Kelly for the fact that she had to decline the second tattoo. She posted on the Facebook thread where Kelly said she would do it the same way if she faced the challenge again. As she should, because it was  (and still is) a truly stunning tattoo. Melodramatic judges are melodramatic. 

[Diane Mars]

23 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

Kari [...] posted on the Facebook thread where Kelly said she would do it the same way if she faced the challenge again. As she should, because it was  (and still is) a truly stunning tattoo. Melodramatic judges are melodramatic. 

Could you pls provide a link ? I'd appreciate :D

Thanks in advance

[AlliePK]

On 10/19/2016 at 3:15 AM, lordonia said:

How long does the pain from a new tattoo last, anyway?

The "discomfort" from a new tattoo lasts longer than the actual "pain."  It tends to be quite tender and sore if the area has been overworked or if it's in a bad area.  But that usually goes away in a day or so.  If it lasts longer, you could be looking at infection.

On 10/20/2016 at 10:00 AM, qtpye said:

 

Agreed that the team concept is lame and really has not changed the competition in anyway. 

I think Ryan would be this show's dream of a female winner.  She is a very attractive young woman covered head to toe in tattoos, who is very talented.  She is like their very own Kat Von D (who I think was Peck's ex wife), before Kat Von D became a jerk.  I do also like Kelly and definitely think she is also a top contender.

Yeah, Kat and Ollie were married, but Kat cheated on him and had a bout of assholeness, which lasted a few years, but is pretty much over now.   Her makeup line is awesome, by the way.