Season 34 Spoilers & Rumors

[LadyChatts]

Some people speculated it might be more like a round table discussion at the FTC instead of individual questions.  Since I'm convinced everyone has their mind made up when they get there anyway, I say skip that all together and let them vote, saving more time for the reunion or overall episode.

In a returning player season, sequestering won't do much good anyway.  

[nutty1]

I saw somewhere else also where it's Hali and Ozzy. Poor Ozzy, cannot catch a break. I will be sorry to see both go.

[LanceM]

The big question to me is will there be a guitar at Ponderosa and will Hali compose and sing another song?  And if she does will we actually get to see the whole songthis time?  

Edited April 19, 2017 by LanceM

[cooksdelight]

They could sequester them separately, since they stay in a hotel now, right? CBS has plenty of money to blow on this show.

[Vyk]

1 hour ago, nutty1 said:

I saw somewhere else also where it's Hali and Ozzy. Poor Ozzy, cannot catch a break. I will be sorry to see both go.

Meh.  I'll be sorry about Hali, but not about Ozzy.

[LadyChatts]

Okay, Sarah just said she'd vote with the alliance that voted out who voted out who she wanted.  There was a rumor she turned on Cirie's group at some point and went with Brad.  Wonder if that's foreshadowing to that happening tonight.

Okay, yep, here's the moment with Sarah.

Edited April 20, 2017 by LadyChatts

[colorbars]

So there's not currently an accurate boot list out, right? There was an accurate one for pre-merge and we know the F3 (unfortunately), but the only one I remember seeing for merge-F4 already came with the disclaimer of not necessarily being in order, and it definitely had Hali in the top 6 or 7, so definitely not in order.

[LadyChatts]

There isn't at this point.  It was speculated that Ozzy/Zeke/Debbie were the first 3 boots, in some order, then Hali got bumped up to mid merge with Michaela and Andrea (again in random order).  A person on reddit claims that the final 6 is Cirie/Aubry/Tai/Sarah/Troyzan/Brad, but I'm still wondering if Sierra sneaks in there.  Her going at the final 7 doesn't make a lot of sense.

Essentially, this season is going to hell in a hand basket.

Edited April 20, 2017 by LadyChatts

[cooksdelight]

I don't think Zeke can save himself at this point. What was he thinking by blabbing to everyone except the chickens? He's toast next week is my bet.

[Vyk]

2 minutes ago, cooksdelight said:

I don't think Zeke can save himself at this point. What was he thinking by blabbing to everyone except the chickens? He's toast next week is my bet.

Indeed.  Tonight certainly laid the groundwork for him going soon, if not next.  Debbie, though, could be next, as well, given the previews for next week.

[cooksdelight]

She was an idiot to use that extra vote.

[LadyChatts]

I was hoping that Debbie, Sierra, and Zeke getting so much screen time means that maybe they will be the next to go.  However, that could just be because 2 out of the 3 of them are in the majority, and we'll be seeing them a lot.  My guess is: Andrea, Michaela, and Zeke next, followed by Debbie, then the final 7.  

I'm actually surprised Michaela would be so thrilled with tonight's episode, since her side is now on the losing side of numbers.  Maybe her glee was because of her and Cirie?  That'd be sweet if it was.

[LanceM]

I can now see a path to victory for Sarah. Brad and Troy appear to be content with letting others make the moves. They were both called idiots by of all people Sierra. lol. We know there is already one person at Ponderosa that doesn't like Brad at all.  So yeah. I am starting to feel a little better about tat final 3.

[nutty1]

I read that as far as the final 3, one will be considered a goat, one a villain and one will win. I'm having trouble figuring who is who. Troyzan may be the goat. I haven't seen him make any type move. 

[Vyk]

2 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

I read that as far as the final 3, one will be considered a goat, one a villain and one will win. I'm having trouble figuring who is who. Troyzan may be the goat. I haven't seen him make any type move. 

As of now, according to SurvivorsUnite, Troyzan is, in fact, the definite goat.  Brad is supposed to become a villain at one point (if he hasn't already and we haven't been shown it), and Sarah is indeed supposed to win.

[Wings]

38 minutes ago, LanceM said:

I can now see a path to victory for Sarah. Brad and Troy appear to be content with letting others make the moves. They were both called idiots by of all people Sierra. lol. We know there is already one person at Ponderosa that doesn't like Brad at all.  So yeah. I am starting to feel a little better about tat final 3.

Yeah.  Brad is starting to grate.  He has been the leader and that is never a good place to stay for long. Troyzan has never been taken seriously.   I can see a clear path for Sarah to win this. 

Edited April 20, 2017 by wings707

[LadyChatts]

I had also heard that a juror that wasn't a breakthrough player before becomes legendary after this season.

After tonight I'm really scared it is going to be Sierra or Debbie.

[Wings]

5 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I had also heard that a juror that wasn't a breakthrough player before becomes legendary after this season.

After tonight I'm really scared it is going to be Sierra or Debbie.

Oh please no. 

ETA.  Michaela? 

Edited April 20, 2017 by wings707

[LanceM]

I have heard that spoiIer but I don't put much stock in it to be honest. There was also another one where Hali supposedly idoled out Aubry which got a lot of people excited but that obviously never happened.  

[LadyChatts]

I am hoping it isn't true, especially if it's just a traditional Pagonging (which sadly looks like might be the case).  But it's out there.  The other rumor that was floating around was 5 idols being played at one TC, but that would be impossible, unless they count immunity as an idol of sorts.  I thought, if that rumor was true, maybe it happened tonight and Sierra's legacy advantage come into play.  Hopefully her saying she wanted to be able to use it at the final 6 foreshadows she won't make it that far.   Brad mentioned in that video he did that things happened this season that happened for the first time.  I thought he said, like 4 things, but it's Brad, so maybe he miscounted or misremembered.  Sadly I think the rock draw is inevitable, and that would be a first how that is done.

I do believe that Troyzan isn't winning and is a goat, but I'm still not 100% sure on Brad.  Still, I'm in the camp that he's getting a good edit, but maybe that'll change.  I'd be fine with Sarah winning at this point, especially among that final 3 (though Troyzan hasn't annoyed me this season yet).

ETA: Here's Jeff's tease for next week

Quote

Okay, looks like we may have some fallout from Zeke’s decision to defect away from Andrea and company. What can you tease up for next week?
Next week offers one of my favorite moments in 34 seasons of Survivor.

He also admits that he had to be convinced to have Ozzy back this season by CBS-because Ozzy has played so many times and he thought he needed a break (?!)  But now he says he was wrong.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/20/survivor-jeff-probst-game-changers-ozzy-hali/

Edited April 20, 2017 by LadyChatts

[Vyk]

7 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

I do believe that Troyzan isn't winning and is a goat, but I'm still not 100% sure on Brad.  Still, I'm in the camp that he's getting a good edit, but maybe that'll change.  I'd be fine with Sarah winning at this point, especially among that final 3 (though Troyzan hasn't annoyed me this season yet).

Well, after this week, and especially after rewatching the episode, I'm more than sure that Troyzan is the goat now.  In an episode where things were just so chaotic around camp and alliances were so up in the air, we got confessionals from everyone about where their heads were at and where they wanted to align themselves.  Of the entire F13, only ONE PERSON had zero confessionals the entire time.  Troyzan.  Every other person had at least two or three.  But Troyzan had zero.  If he couldn't even get acknowledged in an episode where the tribal dynamics were this key to the votes, then I don't think he's gonna play any huge part in this season at all.

Brad and Sarah, meanwhile, both had a good amount of confessionals.  I still think Sarah had enough winner-sounding confessionals, but you never know.  Brad could still win, as well.  Especially since it looks like Sarah is going to keep on making moves next week, while Brad doesn't seem to be willing to do so just yet.

Edited April 20, 2017 by Vyk

[nutty1]

Brad has gotten a good edit so far, it is like he isn't even the same guy who played last season. If I had to guess right now, I would say Sarah is the winner.

re: Jeff's tease......any rumors going around about that? It has me very curious!

Edited April 20, 2017 by nutty1

[Wings]

2 hours ago, nutty1 said:

Brad has gotten a good edit so far, it is like he isn't even the same guy who played last season. If I had to guess right now, I would say Sarah is the winner.

re: Jeff's tease......any rumors going around about that? It has me very curious!

My guess is that it happens at TC since that is Jeff's turf.  Tai has a satchel full of idols so maybe he saves 2 people.  That would clearly be a stunning moment.   We know Zeke goes so it isn't about a surprise boot though. 

[LadyChatts]

Does Zeke for sure go?

I wonder if we get the rock draw next ep.  I don't know if Probst would be excited about the idols, unless it was some spectacular idol play like Parvati's in HvsV, and then Troy plays his.  I hope Cirie's alliance doesn't get the upper hand again, only to be foiled again.  That'll make an already depressing season more depressing.

[Wings]

The boot lists seem to think Zeke goes next but we don't really know for sure.  Seems both sides are irritated with him, as we saw, so it is a logical guess the lists are correct.  

[LadyChatts]

Quote

 “A Line Drawn in Concrete” - -Friends become enemies when one castaway is caught trying to sabotage another’s game, on SURVIVOR, Wednesday, April 26 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Next week's cheat tweet.

As for Zeke, he seems almost like too obvious of a boot, but I guess I won't be surprised.  He might be too unpredictable to keep around, and no one wants to work with him at this point.  Since he talked about making a move in the preview, I guess he hasn't learned anything.

[thehepburn]

Probst's favorite moments are usually about the human element, like Brenda's moment with her father bc it reminds him about being a new father thru his stepchildren.  It's all about HIM so I doubt I'll even notice it.

[Wings]

There were 2 (I think) boot lists early on.  Is there reason to doubt them?  

This was one and the final 3 still seem to be solid at Sucks. 

"Merge (this order is more iffy, but this was the order on the boot list that's proved accuate so far): Ozzy (everyone seems to think he is the first merge boot), Zeke, Tai, Michaela, Debbie, Aubry, Andrea, Hali, Cirie, Sierra

Final 3: Sarah, Troyzan, Brad"

They are telegraphing Zeke going in a big way so I tend to question it.   Tai, I can see, he is a loose cannon.  Well I can see Andrea getting some steam up for Michaela out.   Andrea is getting on my nerves. 

Edited April 23, 2017 by wings707

[LadyChatts]

The last episode with Sierra makes me wonder if she is in fact going to be a shock boot.  She mentioned her legacy advantage, which could indicate either she gets to use it, or ends up falling short.  Rumors are now that she goes at the final 7.  Plus, her edit coming out of nowhere, being portrayed as calling the shots, and I think getting a certain arrogant power trip about her position, could be the Survivor curse of getting confident without looking at what could go wrong.  Same with Debbie.  

I'm curious what this "want to make a move" thing is between Zeke and Sarah, and if Zeke's ego can be stroked enough to think it was his idea.  One thing Zeke might have going for him is, despite people not trusting him or wanting to work with him, they might need him.  This week could come down to a swing vote.  I agree Tai is a loose cannon with 2 idols, and I really don't know where Aubry is at.

For the RC this week, I forgot that this was likely a school yard pick, and that could be why Michaela is missing from that preview I posted.  Which makes me more nervous for her.  What I find interesting is the teams are Brad/Troyzan/Sarah/Sierra/Debbie vs Cirie/Andrea/Tai/Zeke/Aubry.  That could lead to Cirie/Andrea burying the hatchet with Zeke for this vote and trying to persuade Tai/Aubry to flip and get out one of Brad/Troy/Sierra/Debbie.  Tai might be persuaded, especially if the other side wants to vote Zeke out.

At this point, I'm still thinking Zeke (though kind of obvious), Michaela, Andrea, or outside chance Debbie or Sierra.

Edited April 23, 2017 by LadyChatts

[LanceM]

One thing I have noticed is that Hali is really hyping up Andrea as the one to beat in several of her exit interviews.  Now I don't think this really changes anything with regards to the spoiled final 3 and unlike Caleb I think Hali is smart enough to know that you shouldn't spoil the winner in your exit interviews. So what I think is possible is that Andrea becomes a huge player down the stretch and gets taken out at the final seven (if the reddit final 6 is right).  If that Reddit final six in not right though she might even make the finale episode finishing somewhere between 4 and 6.

(It should be noted however that Andrea is one of only two Survivors this season that Hali follows on twitter (the other is Malcolm) so she could just be hyping up someone she became friends with at Ponderosa.) 

[Wings]

11 hours ago, LanceM said:

(if the reddit final 6 is right)

Is that the reddit boot list I posted above?  If not how does it differ? 

@LadyChatts.  Sierra feeling her oats and talking about her legacy might be the edit trying to lead us to believe she is in danger.  I would love for the spoilers to be totally wrong and she is next, though. 

11 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

For the RC this week, I forgot that this was likely a school yard pick, and that could be why Michaela is missing from that preview I posted.  Which makes me more nervous for her.

Is she a good swimmer?  If not she may have been the logical last choice.  I am nervous for her, too.  Sierra (ugh) has been targeting her.  

The school yard pick says it all.  If those on Zeke's team don't patch the rift they are in danger.  Together with Michaela they have the numbers to get Brad or Sierra.   Zeke approaches Sarah in the hammock and asks if she wants to make a big move. Does he think he can sway her to vote off one of her own?  Risky.  It sure smacks of a Zeke boot to me. 

Edited April 23, 2017 by wings707

[cooksdelight]

Michaela is an excellent swimmer, she swam rings around her teammates last time she was on Survivor.

[Wings]

6 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

Michaela is an excellent swimmer, she swam rings around her teammates last time she was on Survivor.

Ohhhh, that is not a good sign that no one chose her.  Damn

Edited April 24, 2017 by wings707

[cooksdelight]

She really is a challenge monster but hasn't been given the chance to show what she can do.

[LanceM]

3 hours ago, wings707 said:

Is that the reddit boot list I posted above?  If not how does it differ? 

The Reddit final six is Aubry, Tai, Cirie and a final 3 of Troy, Brad and Sierra

EDIT:  That should be Sarah not Sierra in the final 3.

Edited April 23, 2017 by LanceM

[Wings]

4 minutes ago, LanceM said:

The Reddit final six is Aubry, Tai, Cirie and a final 3 of Troy, Brad and Sierra

Damn.  I was warming up for a Sarah win.  Didn't Caleb slip and give the impression she won?  I never read it just heard reference to an interview he gave. 

[LadyChatts]

Where the hell did Sierra come from?!  I thought it's been Sarah/Brad/troyzan all along?    Seriously just when I thought this season couldn't get any worse, now one of the people from one of the most obnoxious Survivor cliques might win?  I wonder if that's where Sierra's edit is suddenly coming from.

So if that's true, a boring Pagong season and a pre season alliance that stuck together through the end.  I never thought I'd see myself type 'please let Brad or Troyzan win.'

Though I'm still skeptical on that final 3.  I thought Sarah/Brad/Troyzan were leaked before any boot list.

[cooksdelight]

Sarah/Brad/Troyzan is what I've heard all along, with Sierra being fourth and eliminated before the final TC.

[LadyChatts]

I've seen Sierra going 4th, to being in the final 6, to now finishing just outside.  Someone on CTS posted bits of her IG live I believe where she said not to believe the bootlists out there.  So far everything's been correct, except for Hali going earlier than originally thought.  No ones has an accurate merge order.

ETA: okay, something to make me feel a little better is that Survivor's Unite at Sucks did post that Sarah/Brad/Troyzan are the final 3.  It was the last post on the first page of their thread.  At least, he didn't deny it, as he was answering someone's questions and adding his own comments to what they were asking.  So far, his boots haven't been wrong, and he got Hali when no one expected her to be the merge boot (the one boot that had to be wrong this season, of course). 

Edited April 23, 2017 by LadyChatts

[Wings]

28 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I've seen Sierra going 4th, to being in the final 6, to now finishing just outside.  Someone on CTS posted bits of her IG live I believe where she said not to believe the bootlists out there.  So far everything's been correct, except for Hali going earlier than originally thought.  No ones has an accurate merge order.

I have always read spoilers.  I like the uncertainty here.  Unfortunately I tend to believe Brad and Troyzan are likely in F3.  What is CTS?  

[LadyChatts]

7 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I have always read spoilers.  I like the uncertainty here.  Unfortunately I tend to believe Brad and Troyzan are likely in F3.  What is CTS?  

It's Clubs that Suck. 

I read spoilers, but hate uncertainty lol  At least in a cast like this, but I think it's pretty obvious how it's going to go, even if we don't have the exact order.  And I can believe Sierra makes the finale, unless she's rocked out, or somehow gets idoled out despite her alliance having all the idols.  I've always been skeptical of Cirie or Aubry making the final 6, and I think Sierra will take one of their places.

I thought Probst said the second half of this season was going to be a blood bath?  Maybe that doesn't happen until Brad's alliance has to go at each other.

Edited April 23, 2017 by LadyChatts

[Wings]

My fondest desire is for Cirie to win.  I know that will not happen.  She is one of my favorites and I have a very short list.  I don't mind the uncertain spoiler situation because I am not into this season all that much.  I was until I read who left before the merge though!  Malcolm and Sandra are on my list. 

[LanceM]

Oops my mistake. lol.  It is Sarah not Sierra in the Final three with Brad and Troy. Sorry about that. Too many women with similar sounding names this season. : )

Edited April 23, 2017 by LanceM

[Wings]

3 hours ago, LanceM said:

Oops my mistake. lol.  It is Sarah not Sierra in the Final three with Brad and Troy. Sorry about that. Too many women with similar sounding names this season. : )

Well shape up!  ;^) 

[LanceM]

Debbie is the next boot according to SurvivorsUnite.  Good news as far as I am concerned.

Even better news he just posted that the fan favorite herself Sierra Dawn Thomas will be the boot next week!

Edited April 26, 2017 by LanceM

[LadyChatts]

I thought he just posted Sierra?

Next week's title is "Re-inventing How the Game is Played" so sounds like some big move happens tomorrow.  

Edited April 26, 2017 by LadyChatts

[LanceM]

3 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I thought he just posted Sierra?

Next week's title is "Re-inventing How the Game is Played" so sounds like some big move happens tomorrow.  

Debbie tomorrow night, Sierra next week.

[LadyChatts]

Okay, I see it now.  Totally scrolled by the Debbie post and saw Sierra's.  I'd rather Sierra go first, but at least I can have two weeks of bliss before the idols start coming out on Brad's side and my faves start getting picked off again.  I'm really glad she's going sooner than expected.

Edited April 26, 2017 by LadyChatts

[LanceM]

Yeah I would have preferred Sierra going first as well but I will take it. Justice for targeting Hali as far as I am concerned. : )

[LadyChatts]

Oh god, I just got thinking.  We're probably going to see 3 Amigos 2.0 aren't we?  Tai has 2 idols, and Troyzan has one, which means Brad would probably get one of Tai's.

As I said, I will enjoy these two weeks, because it's still going to be a long season after that (even if the finale is 3 weeks from Sierra's boot).  Yes, seeing Hali and Ozzy's boot (even if I'm in the minority with that one) avenged will be nice.  I especially can't wait for Debbie and Sierra to get knocked off their pedestal.