King Of Queens - General Discussion

[TVMovieBuff]

On 7/1/2022 at 9:22 PM, dttruman said:

I always assumed that they took advantage of that all too familiar " dramatic license that allows little certain things to happen w/o proper explanations

The only reason for it is, it was a 22 minute show. They couldn't stretch the time for Doug to have a realistic length shower, filling the time with meaningless chat between Carrie & Arthur. It is just dramatic suspension of belief. 

I think we know Doug, that he would have taken off his wet sweaty clothes, stuffed them in the hamper, and stood under the shower long enough to get wet, then speed dressed and come back down. He could probably do that in about a minute!

[Kimboweena]

On 1/28/2022 at 4:16 AM, RealHousewife said:

This has to be one of the funniest scenes in TV history

I know it's been a while, but if RealHouseWIfe is still here, which scene is it?  The video is no longer available.  Thanks.

[RealHousewife]

55 minutes ago, Kimboweena said:

I know it's been a while, but if RealHouseWIfe is still here, which scene is it?  The video is no longer available.  Thanks.

[Ms Blue Jay]

LOL!!!

[Yogisbooboo64]

OMG, Pole Lox is a classic!

[Giuseppe]

Was Ritchie's disappearance from the show ever explained? I don't watch the re-runs consistently, but when I do, I always try to catch the episode where they might mention that he moved away or something, but it seems there is no such explanation and he just disappeared like Carrie's sister did.

[Ms Blue Jay]

8 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

Was Ritchie's disappearance from the show ever explained? I don't watch the re-runs consistently, but when I do, I always try to catch the episode where they might mention that he moved away or something, but it seems there is no such explanation and he just disappeared like Carrie's sister did.

I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

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He was written out of the show when Larry Romano, the actor who plays the part of Richie, asked to be let out of his contract so he could leave the series as he was offered a role in another sitcom, the NBC-TV series Kristin, which was intended to be a star vehicle for actress Kristin Chenowith, which, unfortunately, for he and the others associated with that show, would only last for six episodes before being cancelled. His final appearance is in "Paint Misbehavin'", his only appearance in Season 3. He could also be briefly seen in the ending montage in the series finale episode, "China Syndrome (Part 2)".

https://kingofqueens.fandom.com/wiki/Richie_Iannucci

[Gemma Violet]

One of my favorites to rewatch is Present Tense, where Deacon and Kelly give Doug and Carrie that infamous portrait.  Carrie's huge arm will never not be funny. 

 

 

[dttruman]

11 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

One of my favorites to rewatch is Present Tense, where Deacon and Kelly give Doug and Carrie that infamous portrait.  Carrie's huge arm will never not be funny. 

 

 

I don't know if they would be allowed to show a few of these episodes, because they are so close to being offensive to today's audience. Someone would definitely be offended today, but would the producers knuckle under to some of these overly sensitive groups?

[Gemma Violet]

35 minutes ago, dttruman said:

I don't know if they would be allowed to show a few of these episodes, because they are so close to being offensive to today's audience. Someone would definitely be offended today, but would the producers knuckle under to some of these overly sensitive groups?

I don't think Carrie's physical abuse of Doug (punching him in the belly or arm, twisting his nipples, etc.) would be allowed today.  Frankly, I hate it when she does that and I can't understand how the writers thought it was OK to have a wife be physically abusive in a sitcom.  These are no light taps--she really hurts him each time.  And she even beat and kicked him when he was down flat on the fire escape in the episode where he dressed like a clown for Major.  The network would not have had a woman in a sitcom being abused by her significant other, but this was apparently OK.  There are tons of cases of spousal abuse where a woman is doing the abuse and the writers should have taken that into consideration.  I adore this show, but they dropped the ball there.

Edited July 22, 2023 by Gemma Violet

[readster]

Yeah, it went from: "Wife is doing anything a spouse would do if their other half was being stupid". To: "That is almost abuse." Like on Everyone Loves Raymond, it went to the point where Marie was on the cusp of incest and child abuse with Ray and Robert. Or Debra on the moment of idiocy. Also the show did play the cliches of their jobs. Carrie should have been way, way up the ladder at that point in her career. Plus, the fact they didn't shut down from all the morons running the firm at the time. Plus, how Doug pretty much got screwed over to the point event he district manager of the delivery company was: "You are the smartest guy here, but if we promote you, that would be way, way worse."

[dttruman]

On 7/21/2023 at 8:54 PM, Gemma Violet said:

I don't think Carrie's physical abuse of Doug (punching him in the belly or arm, twisting his nipples, etc.) would be allowed today.  Frankly, I hate it when she does that and I can't understand how the writers thought it was OK to have a wife be physically abusive in a sitcom.  These are no light taps--she really hurts him each time.  And she even beat and kicked him when he was down flat on the fire escape in the episode where he dressed like a clown for Major.  The network would not have had a woman in a sitcom being abused by her significant other, but this was apparently OK.  There are tons of cases of spousal abuse where a woman is doing the abuse and the writers should have taken that into consideration.  I adore this show, but they dropped the ball there.

Those purple nurples were addressed when Doug went to and over eaters group, but ended up in Men in Abusive Relationship group.

[Yogisbooboo64]

I've always been a S4 on up gal but decided to watch the beginning ones on Peacock.

And what happens?!  I can't get the Doug and Carrie song out of my head!!  OMG, hysterical.

[Gemma Violet]

11 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

I've always been a S4 on up gal but decided to watch the beginning ones on Peacock.

And what happens?!  I can't get the Doug and Carrie song out of my head!!  OMG, hysterical.

Lol, some of my faves are in the first three seasons:

Fatty McButterpants

Queasy Rider

Assaulted Nuts

Dire Strayts

Net Phrophets

Roast Chicken

 

[ChristmasJones]

This episode is my all-time favorite

 

[Gemma Violet]

Lol, it was nice to see Spence get the upper hand for a change.

[TVMovieBuff]

I love Arthur, Spooner

Cheap Saks

Ovary Action

Papa Pill

Flash Photography

[dttruman]

17 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

This episode is my all-time favorite

 

It was so good if you just accept it and the natural flow of the action. But at the end, when Doug gets fooled at the end, he runs out to his car. How does Spence know that Doug was going to be chased to his car by the waitress? But it was a great effect when Spence comes out of the shadows of the backseat to surprise Doug.

[dttruman]

9 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Lol, it was nice to see Spence get the upper hand for a change.

They finally found a regular spot with him and Danny when those two buddies play off some of the gay jokes in a couple of episodes. It's just would many of these gay jokes be acceptable today

 

[Gemma Violet]

'Best Man' is on right now--the one where Doug and Carrie go to a wedding and Doug finds out Carrie once had a fling with the groom.  There's another writer's error here.  Right before they leave, Doug discovers that his tux pants don't fit and Carrie doesn't know how to let them out.  Deacon arrives and, within what looks like less than five minutes, magically has them perfectly taken out and ready to go.  Now first of all, he'd need a seam ripper to cut out the existing seams, and I'm sure Carrie doesn't have a seam ripper.  Plus, even if you have a seam ripper, removing seams takes quite a while to do.  Then, he'd need a sewing machine instead of just a needle and thread to make new seams.  I guess he could baste some big stitches with a needle and thread, but it would be a half-assed job, would take a long time to do, and wouldn't hold together for very long at the wedding.

[TVMovieBuff]

The Deacon-let's-out-the-pants thing was dramatic license. Something you have to accept in theater. Things that take longer or shorter than they would in real life, things like that. 

Not assuming that all the scenes strung together, all happen in real time. Don't assume that. 

[Gemma Violet]

4 hours ago, TVMovieBuff said:

The Deacon-let's-out-the-pants thing was dramatic license. Something you have to accept in theater. Things that take longer or shorter than they would in real life, things like that. 

Not assuming that all the scenes strung together, all happen in real time. Don't assume that. 

Lol, yes I'm familiar with dramatic/poetic license.  I just thought it was fun to discuss.  No biggie. 🙂   

Edited October 22, 2023 by Gemma Violet

[dttruman]

On 10/21/2023 at 8:20 PM, Gemma Violet said:

'Best Man' is on right now--the one where Doug and Carrie go to a wedding and Doug finds out Carrie once had a fling with the groom.  There's another writer's error here.  Right before they leave, Doug discovers that his tux pants don't fit and Carrie doesn't know how to let them out.  Deacon arrives and, within what looks like less than five minutes, magically has them perfectly taken out and ready to go.  Now first of all, he'd need a seam ripper to cut out the existing seams, and I'm sure Carrie doesn't have a seam ripper.  Plus, even if you have a seam ripper, removing seams takes quite a while to do.  Then, he'd need a sewing machine instead of just a needle and thread to make new seams.  I guess he could baste some big stitches with a needle and thread, but it would be a half-assed job, would take a long time to do, and wouldn't hold together for very long at the wedding.

This episode to me is just a complete opposite of what the majority of the episodes were all about. Where Doug almost always lies to Carrie or tries to hide something from Carrie. Did you notice how Doug felt justified in feeling morally superior to Carrie when he said he would of told her about his fling or two, if he had one.

[TVMovieBuff]

In Cheap Saks, he did confess t Carrie first chance he got, that he had slept with Trish, played by Janeane Garofalo. The other one in the show that he had slept with was Margy his high school girlfriend, but that was assumed. 

What I found funny was that Carrie was jealous is really silly stuff, like Doug's private fantasies (Damned Yankey) his hot hairdresser (Shear Torture) and the flitrty waitress .  But when she met the 2 girls he actually had sex with Carrie was ok with it. And his hot trainee (Train Wreck) who was not interested in Doug but was a rea ife girl, Carrie was fine. 

[dttruman]

Just saw "Meet By-product" episode where Doug first meets Carrie. If you have it on DVD can you check out this one little item for me? Near the beginning when Doug was working outside as the "Bouncer", there was this guy with a goatee standing at the front of the line (with no dialogue). Is this the same guy who played another driver "Tim Murphy" who did impressions, the episode was "Entertainment Weakly". These episodes are like 4-5 years apart. But tell me what you all think?

[Giuseppe]

On 12/19/2023 at 3:15 PM, dttruman said:

Just saw "Meet By-product" episode where Doug first meets Carrie. If you have it on DVD can you check out this one little item for me? Near the beginning when Doug was working outside as the "Bouncer", there was this guy with a goatee standing at the front of the line (with no dialogue). Is this the same guy who played another driver "Tim Murphy" who did impressions, the episode was "Entertainment Weakly". These episodes are like 4-5 years apart. But tell me what you all think?

Not sure, but this show recycled lots of guest actors, so wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

I'm watching right now the episode where Doug takes a picture of his "be-front" at Carrie's friend's wedding, and everyone thinks it was Danny who did it. One thing I've always wondered is why was Doug's mom at the wedding? Not sure if i'm missing an explanation that was cut out of syndication, but the bride was Carrie's friend and it seemed like Doug only knew the groom on a superficial level. Danny was the bride's ex whom she invited to be nice, and Deacon said he knew the groom from softball so I can imagine that's maybe how Doug and Spence knew him, too, but I could never figure out how Doug's mom got invited! Was she in town for the wedding? Did she just happen to be in town and an invitation was extended to her out of courtesy? If so, where was Doug's dad? I just feel like I'm missing something.