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Joe was pissed off at the WSJ today. Again. Tomorrow he’ll be praising them. Again 

Why doesn’t Joe write an editorial for the WSJ? Or a letter to the editor? They’re a vile rag

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2 hours ago, tres bien said:

Joe was pissed off at the WSJ today. Again. Tomorrow he’ll be praising them. Again 

Why doesn’t Joe write an editorial for the WSJ? Or a letter to the editor? They’re a vile rag

Joe used to be a celebrated columnist for the Washington Post. Mika used to read his columns on air . Joe could be under a non-compete clause.

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Joe Scarborough: So tell me, would you say, Al, that Reagan was the best president over or just the most wonderful?
Al Pacino:  Um... what?
Joe Scarborough: Wouldn't you say that the Reagan years set the stage for the success of Godfather?
Al Pacino: Huh?  What?  Well... I think your timing is...
Joe Scarborough: Well, Reagan is responsible for you winning an Oscar for Scent of a Woman, and he brought us HBO and VCRs to watch Godfather. 
Al Pacino: ?
Joe Scarborough:  So talk to me about Maggie Thatcher.  What did she think of Reagan.  She thought he was all man, right?

Scarborough is wearing Keds and no socks with his khakis and navy blazer/tie.

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3 hours ago, Lowcountry snark said:

Joe Scarborough: So tell me, would you say, Al, that Reagan was the best president over or just the most wonderful?
Al Pacino:  Um... what?
Joe Scarborough: Wouldn't you say that the Reagan years set the stage for the success of Godfather?
Al Pacino: Huh?  What?  Well... I think your timing is...
Joe Scarborough: Well, Reagan is responsible for you winning an Oscar for Scent of a Woman, and he brought us HBO and VCRs to watch Godfather. 
Al Pacino: ?
Joe Scarborough:  So talk to me about Maggie Thatcher.  What did she think of Reagan.  She thought he was all man, right?

Scarborough is wearing Keds and no socks with his khakis and navy blazer/tie.

I didn't watch this morning so I'm going to assume that some of this is tongue in cheek, but also somewhat accurate.  It sounds like an old Colbert Report bit where he would ask guests "President Bush: great President or greatest President ever?" and the guest would be a Democrat who vehemently opposed everything Bush had done. 

Joe is in the middle of a nervous breakdown. He knows the GOP is a shit show, but his brain cannot navigate this fact, so he is retreating into some alternate reality where Reagan, (who was in fact one of the shittiest Presidents ever), is the standard bearer the Republican Party must remodel itself after. 

I guarantee before this is all over, Joe will be dying his hair, wearing Estee Lauder blush and calling Mika "Mommy". 

Reagan: Evil Mastermind or Useful Idiot

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I thought Joe was surprisingly patient interviewing Al Pacino.  I don't know if it was an age thing, but I thought Pacino was blabbering all over the place when talking to Joe.

I had to laugh, though, because when Joe was sitting there listening, I thought "Now you know how other people feel having to sit there and listen to your incessant blabbermouthing." 😅

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I think Pacino has always been a bit of a challenge in interviews, and he rarely does them,  IIRC. 

He's also in his early 80s isn't he? 

We'll always have Godfather and Godfather 2, and Heat. 

And for batshit crazy, The Devil's Advocate. 

 

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22 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

I think Pacino has always been a bit of a challenge in interviews, and he rarely does them,  IIRC. 

He's also in his early 80s isn't he? 

We'll always have Godfather and Godfather 2, and Heat. 

And for batshit crazy, The Devil's Advocate. 

 

It's too bad they didn't show the clip of Mika not knowing who Al Pacino was. She said on one show that she never liked any of the Godfather movies. They were too violent and predictable.

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12 minutes ago, oakville said:

It's too bad they didn't show the clip of Mika not knowing who Al Pacino was. She said on one show that she never liked any of the Godfather movies. They were too violent and predictable.

Predictable??? 

She knew Sonny was being set up by Connie's husband? She knew Don Corleone would drop dead in the garden while playing with his grandson?  Not because she read the book, that's for sure. It had too many multisyllabic words. 

Mika you know what's predictable?  You acting like a smug prig. The Godfather and Godfather 2 are two of the greatest films of all time.  

 

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Coppola should have stopped at Godfather 2 though, because #3 was crap. 

Pacino is famous for playing Michael in the Godfather movies, but I'll always remember him as Tony Montana in Scarface:  Say hello to my little friend! 

 

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23 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Coppola should have stopped at Godfather 2 though, because #3 was crap. 

Pacino is famous for playing Michael in the Godfather movies, but I'll always remember him as Tony Montana in Scarface:  Say hello to my little friend! 

 

Agree that 3 is a hot mess.  

 

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1 hour ago, SeanBug said:

Predictable??? 

She knew Sonny was being set up by Connie's husband? She knew Don Corleone would drop dead in the garden while playing with his grandson?  Not because she read the book, that's for sure. It had too many multisyllabic words. 

Mika you know what's predictable?  You acting like a smug prig. The Godfather and Godfather 2 are two of the greatest films of all time.  

 

Mika told the story of trying to watch the Godfather movies with Joe. She complained about the subtitles when the actors were speaking Italian. Mika said there were too many scenes of the characters eating pasta which wasn't gluten-free. Mika knew which characters would die & reiterated her support for gun control.

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

It's too bad they didn't show the clip of Mika not knowing who Al Pacino was. She said on one show that she never liked any of the Godfather movies. They were too violent and predictable.

Of course she did. My opinion of her forever changed the day she literally  stalked off the set, cameras following her every haughty step - because they were discussing Paris Hilton. Made a huge show of it; it was thought out and contrived. She was (and still is) above Pop Culture. This was during The Slap and Tickle Days of The Twins. 

I am in that elite group of "the only things the Irish enjoy nursing are their grudges" .... thank you Tony Kornheiser for that adage. I loved his Washington Post columns back in the day; and the early years of PTI on ESPN.

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Mika was excited about Eminem & Obama rapping in Detroit. Michigan is a key battleground state.

Joe said Trump is lying. Joe was outraged that Trump told John Kelly that Hitler did some good things.

Michael Schmidt is not wearing a sweater. Joe is wearing his dark blue sweater.

Joe is happy that General Kelly gave an interview to Schmidt.

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Last week Joe was on with Bill Maher...today there is a taped interview with Jimmy Kimmel. It seems that Joe is maybe branching out a bit;  and who could blame him? I am exhausted by his four hours of political talk. Of the entire network's 24/7 political talk by the same people 24/7. At least CNN covers other news. Sometimes.

Last night I found myself watching a Hallmark Christmas movie. It had pretty people, colorful Christmas decorations, a happy ending. Is anyone else completely burned out on election coverage?

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This morning Joe said nothing new.  John Kelly said nothing new.

The dread that Trump is returning will have nothing to do what John Kelly or his ilk say or do 

I feel sorry for General Kelly that he will be best remembered as Trump’s longest serving COS

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The panel said there won't be guardrails against Trump.

Admiral James said the military will follow the Constitution.

Katty Kay went door-knocking with canvassers. She doesn't think that Trump's statements will move the needle that much against him.

I bet some voters were shocked to see a prestigious journalist like Katty Kay knocking on their door.

Joe said Madisonian Democracy must survive.

 

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11 hours ago, Kemper said:

I am in that elite group of "the only things the Irish enjoy nursing are their grudges" .... thank you Tony Kornheiser for that adage. I loved his Washington Post columns back in the day; and the early years of PTI on ESPN.

I'm Welsh and German but there must be some Irish in there, I will hold a grudge til Hell freezes over.  Irish goodbye? No problem. 

I loved Tony K too. 

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1) I don't care about Mike Barnicle's kids and their documentary.

2) I had no idea that there was an issue with getting Polish Amerians to vote. 

This post was originally "bitingly funny" and longer. I have edited it several times, had Facetime wine with a friend. So now it is short and to-the-point.

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This morning after talking to Jim Messina about polling, Joe brought up the movie Family Man (Nick Cage/Tea Leoni), and then It's a Wonderful Life. They talked about how these are such great movies that illustrate the importance of family. The panel then chatted for maybe a minute about movies.

Mika's reply:  I don't know these movies and I don't care.  Everybody shut up now. 

We teach young children not to tell people to "shut up", yet this host of a cable news show on a major network just told her guests and husband to shut up. 

It's not funny or cute, Mika. It's rude. You all talk about the same shit day in and day out until viewers can't take it anymore. A little lighthearted chat about movies or sports is a nice change of pace.  

I know you think the show can't run without you keeping the conversation where YOU want it,  but the show does just fine when you aren't there to ruin everything with your shitty attitude. 

Oh and Joe announcing he "loves" Mitt and Ann Romney?  Of course you do. Big fan of strapping sick dogs to the roof of your car and calling poor people "the 47% who mooch off the government"?  Like you didn't figure out a way to not pay taxes.  Hypocrite much? 

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Joe is outraged at Trump today.

Joe can't believe that Trump is talking about Nazi Generals.

Joe knew that Nazis were bad when he watched Hogan's Heroes growing up.

Joe loves his Family Man reference to Nic Cage blowing into a paper bad. Mika didn't watch that movie.

Joe said 2012 is the closest analogy to this campaign. Romney was doing better in the polls than in actual results. Joe said it was wrong for Republicans to quote Gallup polls showing Romney ahead.

Karl Rove couldn't believe Romney was losing Ohio.

 

 

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Joe is repeating his talking points about California having a higher GDP than India.

Joe mocked Billionaires who are supporting Trump. They are richer now due to Kamala's policies over the past 4 years.

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I watched half of the town hall although I’m loathed to watch CNN

Last night Anderson Cooper proved me right. He either has no clue how our government works or the constant both sides are same bs that CNN pushes make them unreliable 

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I think it's the both sides bs that CNN pushes. Even after Chris Licht's failure at this, they still want to pull in conservatives. Look at some of the bs they let panelists get away with. 

I just turned on MJ. The men are talking about the World Series, and Mika is sitting with her arms folded, scowling at them.  Girlfriend got her hair done and looks like the lips got a touch up too. 

Joe is doing everything he can to piss her off. He's talking about Family Man again.  Mika is trying to stop it and he won't shut up.  

Mika, you would do yourself a huge favor if you would just stop trying to win this war.  Try joining in the conversation. It doesn't make women less powerful or valuable if we know what's going on in the sports world.  You don't have to know Ohtani's RBI or what college team is in first place.

To be honest, I'd rather sit with Joe and the guys and talk about sports than attend that White Lady Power Hour with you in Dubai. 

 

 

 

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Warning, superficial opinion ahead: Brooke Shields is gorgeous. She might have had something interesting to say, but since it was part of Mika’s KYV nonsense, I couldn’t get to the remote fast enough. Can’t they give Mika a vanity show on Peacock where she can drone on and we don’t have to watch? I’m a woman, but this does nothing for me. 

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6 minutes ago, mispickel said:

Either there's a word I don't know, or Scarborough is adding a syllable to "opaque." It's o·paque, not "OHH-pay-ICK."

I think they're both struggling with their words today. 

Mika was cry talking about abortion and women suffering due to the Dobbs decision. She said women can't get health care when the baby is incombatable. I'm pretty sure she meant incompatible with surviving, but the new lips are making it hard to understand what she's saying. 

You can just say "won't survive", Mika. Don't start showing off by pretending you know big words like incompatible. Stick to the one or two syllable words you can handle. Like shut up, shut up now, not like sport ball, and  Joe rich me marry. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Newsreader said:

Warning, superficial opinion ahead: Brooke Shields is gorgeous. She might have had something interesting to say, but since it was part of Mika’s KYV nonsense, I couldn’t get to the remote fast enough. Can’t they give Mika a vanity show on Peacock where she can drone on and we don’t have to watch? I’m a woman, but this does nothing for me. 

I thought Mika had a KYV show on the website.  I did notice when Huma and that Cisco lady were on talking about the Rich Lady Luncheon, she brought up age again. 60 is the new 40!  Because Mika is 57 and she's looking down the barrel at 60 and it's freaking her out.  She's all about promoting women of a certain age while losing her mind over being older.  

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2 hours ago, Newsreader said:

Warning, superficial opinion ahead: Brooke Shields is gorgeous. She might have had something interesting to say, but since it was part of Mika’s KYV nonsense, I couldn’t get to the remote fast enough. Can’t they give Mika a vanity show on Peacock where she can drone on and we don’t have to watch? I’m a woman, but this does nothing for me. 

I doubt Mika has seen any of Brooke Shields movies. A few years ago, Mika complained about Lazy Boy Furniture which Brooke endorsed because Joe fell asleep on the Lazy Boy couches.

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Mika is outraged at Trump. She is worried about women dying due to strict abortion rules in many states.

Rev Al is worried about young black males not having experienced discrimination, so they could vote for Trump.

Elise spoke to a canvasser in Michigan. Enthusiasm levels are down.

Elise is upset at the anti-transgender ads about Trump.

Joe wants Democrats to respond to the ads.

Joe compared the Harris campaign to Michael Dukakis mowing his lawn in 1988.

Joe said the gender-affirming care for prisoners was a Trump policy.

Joe is working on talking points in case Kamala loses.

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4 hours ago, oakville said:

Huma said Liz Cheney & Kamala Harris can save Democracy.

Huma?  Isn't she the ex of Anthony Weiner? And recently engaged to a billionaire? (no shame in that). And BFF of Meeka? Sorry, I kind of hate to sound catty. I am over hearing about KYV. 

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12 hours ago, Kemper said:

Huma?  Isn't she the ex of Anthony Weiner? And recently engaged to a billionaire? (no shame in that). And BFF of Meeka? Sorry, I kind of hate to sound catty. I am over hearing about KYV. 

Mika told Huma that she made a good decision to divorce Weiner after Hillary's classified emails were found on his laptop. This allowed Comey to reopen the investigation a few weeks before the 2016 election. Hillary blamed the Comey investigation for her loss in 2016.

Mika recommended always marrying a billionaire or, at the very least, a multimillionaire cable news host when given the opportunity.

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I caught a bit of Weekend Joe, aka "MSNBC Hates Its Viewers and Subjects Them to the Very Worst of Morning Joe on Saturday, which should be a happy day but this crap ruined it so thanks for nothing!"

Anyhoo, Mika brought a whole new level of cry talking, shriek talking, at Adrian Elrod. Mika was yelling at Adrian about how Trump and Vance have ads about trans kids, abortion on live babies, cats and dogs living together, hurricanes caused by women not paying to see Mika Live! (I kinda zoned out after a while). Her voice was so high and irritating I thought the smoke alarm had gone off.  Why doesn't the campaign have people pushing back on this nonsense?????

Adrian, to her credit, pushed back on Mika, telling her that she is in fact in charge of the campaign surrogate program and they have people on radio, tv, knocking on doors with canvassers, etc. telling voters that the truth and what the Harris campaign is doing. 

I'll assume Mika would prefer Joe talk about the 1919 Chicago Black Sox scandal for an hour than be corrected  by someone who doesn't even have their own tv show. AS IF! 

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5 hours ago, SeanBug said:

Mika did a little comedy bit!!  

The direction for this scene was "Act like your viewers when they see you at 6 am and they haven't had any coffee yet".   

https://www.instagram.com/p/DBkH7ETRdy5/

At least it isn't a photo of her sipping coffee from a straw. Drink coffee like a human being you freak!!

 

That was a version of the old Milton Berle "Spit Take" - only his was funny....even though the audience expected it.  Meeka must have rehearsed/practiced that move a  bunch of times. Not bad, but you are NO Milton Berle. (Now I will lap from my saucer of cream) And I probably aged myself with the Berle reference. 

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I would remind Anthony Scarmucchi that in 2016 it was reported that Trump thought he was going to loose. As they say hope springs eternal 

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Mika & Joe were outraged at Trump's MSG rally. Joe said he was proud of his Puerto Rican constituents when he was in Congress.

Mika read out all the demographic details of the new ABC poll which shows Harris winning 51-47.

Joe said Trump is as overconfident as Romney was in 2012.

Joe is mad at Republicans who want to own the libs.

Messina assured Joe that Harris was winning the race.

Joe said optimism beats pessimism.

 

 

Joe said Trump can't get over 47% of the vote.

Messina mocked the Romney rallies in 2012.

Messina said late-breaking voters are switching to Harris.

Joe bragged that he always told his staff they were behind when they were ahead by 20 points.

Joe stared making whiny noises mocking Democrats who don't believe in Harris.

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Joe now says the race is tied. It's important to keep viewers watching till election day.

Lemire said Clinton was in a bubble in 2016.

Lemire admits that Trump campaign is very confident.

Lemire said females are outvoting males in several key battlegrounds.

Mika said abortion is a key issue.

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Joe mocked the Billionaires supporting Trump.

Bezos & Musk are wimps for supporting Trump.

Joe said he would not be pushed around by anybody at the Washington Post.

Joe is outraged at the lack of endorsements for Harris by newspapers.

I like Pablo Torres. He isn't afraid to be funny.

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