tv echo February 28 Share February 28 (edited) Superhero Comic Con and Car Show, June 20-23, 2024 (San Antonio, TX) https://pmxevents.com/celebrities/category/2024/ Edited February 28 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo March 2 Share March 2 (edited) Q & A LegalDispatch 0.91 MARC GUGGENHEIM MAR 1, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/q-and-a Quote Via Twitter, @LukeFlux 1 asked: Was there ever anything you wished to do in the Arrowverse that you never got to do, whether it be because of restrictions by WB, budget or other? * * * I know it’s not at the heart of your question, but your question really makes me think of those things that we did end up doing that were either more difficult or more expensive — or whatnot — than anticipated. For example, Nate’s steel effect on Legends of Tomorrow. Very expensive, particularly to do it properly, with all the reflections. (There’s a reason Colossus’ armor in Deadpool 2 has a matte, non-reflecting finish, is all I’ll say.) Edited March 2 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo March 6 Share March 6 Tala Ashe talked about playing Zari on LoT... The Middle Eastern Stereotypes Tala Ashe is Tired of Seeing | Famous Cast Words | ALL ARTS TV ALL ARTS TV Mar 5, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo March 13 Share March 13 Video of Brandon Routh panel at Collective Con (Jacksonville, FL) on March 9... CollectiveCon 2024 - Brandon Routh Q&A Panel Saix_XIII posted Mar 11, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo March 15 Share March 15 (edited) TO THE ARROW-CAVE! LegalDispatch 0.93 MARC GUGGENHEIM MAR 15, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/to-the-arrow-cave Quote Harvey Hamer writes: * * * Was there ever more of a desire to involve more of Constantine in Legends of Tomorrow? It was amazing when he appeared in Arrow, and then so much content in Legends (using the same Astra flashback as his solo show?) but I was always hoping for some Manny/rising darkness reference/resolution. For the uninitiated, Legends series regular Matt Ryan portrayed the DC hero John Constantine in a series that ran on NBC from 2014 to 2015. We brought Matt back to reprise his role in Arrow before bringing him on to Legends. Harvey is asking about bringing plot elements from Constantine into that show. The answer, Harvey, is that how much to reference the NBC show was a source of constant discussion. On the one hand, you never want to make the audience feel like they have to “do homework” by seeking out a canceled show that ran on another network. On the other hand, Constantine left the airwaves far, far too soon and there was always a desire on the part of the Legends writers to honor that show and its storylines as much as possible. As with anything, you just hope to strike the right balance. Edited March 15 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo March 23 Share March 23 (edited) KETO SHIMIZU (DC's Legends of Tomorrow) Interview | The Showrunner Whisperer Episode 01 Multiverse Of Color Mar 20, 2024 -- Keto Shimizu confirmed that they considered having Zach Braff do the voice for Skeets, Booster Gold's floating robot companion, thus setting up a Scrubs reunion. (Donald Faison guest-starred as Booster Gold in LoT's final episode.) Shimizu also said that having Braff do the voice would be easier than finding money to pay for him to actually be on the show. Edited March 23 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo April 14 Share April 14 From Huntsville Comic & Pop Culture Expo (Alabama) on April 13... Brandon Routh | Huntsville Pop Culture Expo 2024 #cnageeks #hsvexpo2024 CNAtv Streamed Apr 13, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo April 17 Share April 17 (edited) THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM? LegalDispatch .95 MARC GUGGENHEIM APR 16, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/third-times-the-charm Quote I was working on clearing out my iCloud drive the other day and came upon an interesting artifact. The second Arrowverse crossover introduced Vandal Savage, Hawkman and Hawkwoman — all of whom would go on to play major roles in the first season of Legends of Tomorrow. There’s a key sequence in Arrow Ep. 408 (the second part of the crossover) where Savage fights our heroes and, well, it didn’t turn out particularly well. We’d ran out of time on the day we originally shot it and had to make some compromises on the fly. Once we got into the editing room, however, we realized that the sequence, as shot, didn’t make a lick of narrative sense. Accordingly, I did a rewrite on the sequence and returned to Vancouver for a day’s worth of reshoots. Reshoots are expensive by virtue of the fact that they’re not initially budgeted for and you certainly don’t want to be in a spot where you have to do reshoots on the reshoots, so the stakes are high. You really have to get it right. To that end, we painstakingly shot-listed and storyboarded exactly what we needed to get in order to make the revised sequence work. I think what makes these storyboards particularly interesting is that you can see how the footage from the reshoots is designed to work with the scene as originally shot. I’ve uploaded those storyboards to Google Drive for your enjoyment. You can check them out by clicking here. Edited April 17 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo April 19 Share April 19 (edited) Brandon Routh will be getting an award at the Julien Dubuque International Film Festival 2024, April 24-28, 2024 (Dubuque, IA)... The Julien Dubuque International Film Festival 2024 Lineup and Honors Brandon Routh with Creative Visionary Award Lynk PR April 18, 2024 https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/704178105/the-julien-dubuque-international-film-festival-2024-lineup-and-honors-brandon-routh-with-creative-visionary-award Quote LOS ANGELES, CA, USA, April 18, 2024 /EINPresswire.com/ -- Set against the historic backdrop of Dubuque, the Julien Dubuque International Film Festival (JDIFF) is proud to announce its 2024 edition, taking place from April 24th to 28th. This year, JDIFF is not only showcasing a diverse selection of independent films but also introducing the JDIFF Creative Visionary Award, with Brandon Routh, renowned for his role as Superman in SUPERMAN RETURNS, as its first recipient. Brandon Routh, whose career has spanned various genres and platforms, exemplifies the spirit of innovation and community that JDIFF celebrates. His contributions to film, characterized by flexible and committed performances, have made significant impacts on both the industry and audiences worldwide. * * * Award Night Celebration - Saturday Apr 27, 2024 The culmination of the festival will be the Awards Night, where Brandon Routh will be honored with the Creative Visionary Award. This award recognizes individuals who have shown a commitment to innovative storytelling, cultural impact, and nurturing emerging talent within the film industry. Edited April 19 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo April 27 Share April 27 (edited) Among other things, MG discussed the helmets for Hawkman and Hawkgirl in Legends (plus posted process photos/designs)... INCHING TOWARDS OFFICIAL LegalDispatch 0.96 MARC GUGGENHEIM APR 26, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/inching-towards-official Edited April 27 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo April 28 Share April 28 Brandon Routh received the Creative Visionary Award at the Julien Dubuque International Film Festival on April 27... Link to comment
tv echo April 30 Share April 30 Brandon Routh receives JDIFF's Creative Visionary Award Telegraph Herald Apr 29, 2024 Quote Iowa native Brandon Routh speaks with TH Media about film, family and the future at JDIFF's red carpet event Saturday, April 27, 2024 in Dubuque. Link to comment
tv echo May 4 Share May 4 (edited) FALSE EQUIVALENCY LegalDispatch 0.97 MARC GUGGENHEIM MAY 03, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/false-equivalency Quote This is a fun bit of history/synergy. Originally, Legends of Tomorrow Ep. 309, was conceived of as a story involving a young Martin Stein moving heaven and earth to find the latest in vogue toy for Christmas for his daughter Lily (named after my daughter). Elmo would then get displaced in time and, basically, become a god of war This was, as I recall, the brainchild of future Legends showrunner Keto Shimizu. Given the time period of the episode — the 1990s — the toy we had in mind was Tickle Me Elmo. Of course, we knew that we’d eventually have to change the toy to something that wouldn’t get us sued. And thus Beebo was born. (Though if you’ve ever wondered why Beebo always refers to himself in the third person, you now have your answer.) Obviously, a new toy/character required a new design, something that would evoke Elmo without angering lawyers. At the time, I was also producing Trollhunters, so I reached out to Linda Chen, one of our amazing concept artists, and she was kind enough to whip up the following potential designs: Aren't they cute? Edited May 4 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo May 6 Share May 6 TV Roles Almost Played by Someone Else on Big Bang Theory, Lost, Arrow, One Tree Hill, The O.C., Buffy and More BY VLADA GELMAN, REBECCA IANNUCCI, MATT WEBB MITOVICH MAY 5, 2024 https://tvline.com/lists/tv-actors-almost-played-different-roles/ Quote DC'S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW ... As writer Tyron B. Carter shared on Twitter, the singer Ashanti — whose previous acting credits include Army Wives — auditioned for the role of Amaya aka Vixen, which eventually went to Maisie Richardson-Sellers. 1 Link to comment
tv echo May 7 Share May 7 Interview with Brandon Routh... S3E20 On Being Super, Man The How NOT To Make A Movie Podcast Channel May 7, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo June 1 Share June 1 (edited) ONE-HUNDRED LegalDispatch 100 MARC GUGGENHEIM MAY 31, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/one-hundred Quote Over on Twitter (no, I will not call it ‘X’), @FinerPointsGeek asked: * * * But to answer your question, the two roles that first spring to mind are that of Dinah Drake (Arrow) and Zari Tarazi (Legends of Tomorrow), albeit for different reasons. * * * Zari was challenging in a very different way. I originally thought that the role would be incredibly difficult to cast on account of the fact that we insisted on a Muslim actor to play this important Muslim character. But as I recall, Tala Ashe came in to audition relatively early in the process and won the role in the room. I think I turned to fellow showrunner Phil Klemmer and was like, “That was a lot easier than I expected.” Thanks for the great question. I hope I answered it to your satisfaction. For fun, here are the costume designs for both characters * * * Edited June 1 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo June 8 Share June 8 (edited) Pet Peeves and Tired Tropes: 30+ Things TV Needs to Stop Doing Immediately! BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH JUNE 7, 2024 https://tvline.com/lists/tv-pet-peeves-tropes/the-non-existent-text-history/ Quote 'BABE,' I GOT (LOTS OF) YOU, 'BABE' ... Does it seem like both halves of every single couple, on every TV show, are using “Babe” as the chosen term of endearment? And multiple times within a single, brief conversation? Legends of Tomorrow’s Ava and Sara (sigh, remember them?) regularly set per-episode records with this verbal tic, followed closely by This Is Us‘ Kate and Toby. But nowadays we’re looking at you, Ghosts‘ Sam and Jay…. Edited June 8 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo June 12 Share June 12 From June 8... Brandon Routh Q&A Panel from 2024 Superman Celebration Superman Homepage posted Jun 11, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo June 13 Share June 13 From May 25... Matt Ryan Q&A | GalaxyCon Oklahoma City 2024 GalaxyCon posted Jun 12, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo June 14 Share June 14 (edited) ‘Yoga Teacher Killer: The Kaitlin Armstrong Story’: Caity Lotz & Kyle Schmid on Working Together, Arrowverse & More Scott Fishman June 13, 2024 https://www.tvinsider.com/1138481/yoga-teacher-killer-kaitlin-armstrong-caity-lotz-kyle-schmid/ Quote How would you have liked DC’s Legends of Tomorrow to end? Sadly, fans never got closure in the last episode. Caity: I would have loved to get an end. It felt a little like, “Come on guys! You can’t do a one-episode wrapup or movie or something?” It would have been cool. Especially, with how they ended things. Booster Gold as Donald Faison was so promising and Sara was pregnant. There was foreshadowing there with me now, ha! I would have loved to get closure for us and the fans. We didn’t even say goodbye. It was like, “See you later. I would love a wrap-up whatever that is, movie, episode. As long as it wasn’t, “We’re just going to have you appear on The Flash.” That would not work. They have to do it properly or not at all. They chose not at all. Is there anything from the set you took from your character and cherish? Caity: If I knew the show was ending, I probably would have taken a lot more. I would have been like, “Can I take this and this?” But we didn’t know. I may have been like, “I don’t need that stuff cluttering my house.” Now it’s, “I need that stuff!”I have a lot of wardrobe socks though. I would have wanted my mask maybe. Just the Black Canary mask would have been cool. I do have gifts from fans. Some really beautiful artwork. This one fan made a photobook with every single episode Sara had been in. Her whole journey from Arrow on. It was a thick book. That to me is so cool because you can see every single episode. I have that kind of stuff, which has been good for keepsakes. Edited June 14 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo June 17 Share June 17 Brandon Routh panel at Duke City Comic Con on 6/15/24 in Albuquerque, NM starstruckjb posted Jun 16, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo June 24 Share June 24 (edited) From ACE Superhero Comic Con in San Antonio, TX, this past weekend... Brandon Routh Talks Superman and Legends of Tomorrow | Superhero Comic Con San Antonio 2024 Q&A Tales From The Collection: Autographs & Fan Mail Jun 22, 2024 Edited June 26 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo June 26 Share June 26 From ACE Superhero Comic Con (San Antonio, TX) on June 22... Caity Lotz Discusses Arrowverse and Acting Career | Superhero Comic Con San Antonio 2024 Q&A Tales From The Collection: Autographs & Fan Mail posted Jun 24, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo July 4 Share July 4 MARC GUGGENHEIM (Arrow, DC's Legends of Tomorrow) | The Showrunner Whisperer Episode 08 Multiverse Of Color Jul 3, 2024 -- MG: "In many ways I'm more proud of the environment that we created on Arrow and Legends than I am of the shows themselves, to be honest with you. Um, particularly Legends - you know, Legends - Legends was - it was such a challenging show for completely different reasons than Arrow was. Um, in many ways, Legends was challenging partially from a production standpoint because it was the first team, you know, series we'd done. And it's like, you know, well, how do you - it's one thing like Flash, he runs fast and they - they've got a system in place for how to produce that. But we've got, you know, a character who turns to steel, we've got a character - we've got two characters who have wings on their back, we have, you know, uh, a character who - his head is literally on fire and he can transmute any material into any other material. Like, I mean, an insane - you know, cold guns, heat guns, you name it. And - and like, how do you - how do you produce all that, uh, with basically - how do you produce, you know, five different sets of superpowers at least, uh, on the same budget and the same schedule that you have for shows that have one superpower? I - I have to say, like, you know, and we also went straight from, you know, presentation plot to series, um, so that had its own challenges. Um, and I have to say, it took - you know, it took a little while, but once we sort of locked in the show creatively and - and locked in the show production-wise, that set was the most fun set to come to. Like, the actors just - they all loved each other. Not that that's not true on other shows, but they - they had a special bond, um, and it was a special bond that I think really showed up on screen. It was just like - it was so - just delightful to come visit that set. I can't, you know, put it any other way." -- MG: "You know, when we were shooting the end of, uh, the season finale of season 2 of Legends, uh, with the big sort of World War 2 battlefield, um, you know, huge climactic moment, it had snowed the night before and it was - it was covered with snow - like covered with snow... I gotta say, Legends producer Val Stefoff, uh, is - is one of the all-time best line producers I've ever worked with. He - this guy works miracles. In this case, he worked a literal miracle. Um, he got hot water hoses, hot water trucks, out to the location and basically sprayed it down. And like between shoveling and melting the snow and everything - you watch that episode. You would never know that like literally an hour before we were - we were scheduled to shoot, um, it was - it looked like - it looked like a blizzard." Link to comment
tv echo July 25 Share July 25 Marc Guggenheim confirmed that, although DC said, yes, more often than they said, no, the only time that really bothered him was "Legends being told that we could no longer use Constantine," so they had to "shift gears" with Matt Ryan. He found it especially disappointing when the planned JJ Abrams Constantine series never came to pass... MARC GUGGENHEIM (Arrow, DC's Legends of Tomorrow) Part 2 | The Showrunner Whisperer Episode 09 Multiverse Of Color Jul 24, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo July 26 Share July 26 (edited) MG posted his SDCC schedule and also the first three pages of the script that he wrote for the Legends promo; he also talked about the Superman suit that Brandon Routh wore for the COIE crossover...... PRE-SDCC LegalDispatch 106 MARC GUGGENHEIM JUL 25, 2024 https://marcguggenheim.substack.com/p/pre-sdcc Edited July 26 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo August 6 Share August 6 (edited) Inaugural Lifetime Achievement Award Winner, Victor Garber – The FCFF Celebrates Southwestern Ontario Stardom August 1, 2024 https://fcff.ca/2024/08/01/inaugural-lifetime-achievement-award-winner-victor-garber-the-fcff-celebrates-southwestern-ontario-stardom/ Quote The Forest City Film Festival is thrilled to announce that we will be honouring Victor Garber with the FCFF Lifetime Achievement in Entertainment Award, celebrating his exceptional career and deep-rooted connection to his hometown of London, Ontario. With three Gemini Awards, four Tony Awards, six Primetime Emmy Awards, and one Screen Actors Guild Award, Victor’s achievements underscore his extraordinary talent and commitment to the arts. Forest City Film Festival, October 19-27, 2024 (Ontario, Canada) https://fcff.ca/ Edited August 6 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo August 7 Share August 7 (edited) Caity Lotz Talks Sara Lance's Legends Of Tomorrow Season 8 Story That Would've Been "Something Unexpected" By Andy Behbakht August 6, 2024 https://screenrant.com/legends-of-tomorrow-season-8-sara-lance-story-caity-lotz/ Quote Screen Rant recently chatted with Lotz for her new film, The Lockdown from Tiger Style Media, where she also spoke a little bit about Legends of Tomorrow season 8 if the show hadn't been canceled. While Lotz was sad to see the Arrowverse drama end unexpectedly, the White Canary actor shared the following: Yeah, it definitely was a cliffhanger. I mean, after 140 or however many episodes, I did definitely get to explore a lot of stuff with her. But the way that they wrote the show, it was so much fun. There was always room for more because it was so bonkers, and you just do crazy stuff. But I know we were going to be in prison, so the next season would've started off with us in prison. And I know the pregnancy wasn't going to be a normal pregnancy, which is what I was looking forward to. It wasn't going to just be basically what I am now - because now I'm eight and a half months pregnant, waddling around. They were going to make it a unique alien clone hybrid pregnancy, and the baby would've been something unexpected. Maybe one day we'll get that Legends movie! Edited August 7 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo August 11 Share August 11 Brandon Routh Q&A Panel - June 8, 2024 - Superman Celebration Entertainment Goes Pop posted Aug 11, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo August 14 Share August 14 (edited) Matt Ryan, Brandon Routh and John Barrowman were at Comic Con Wales this past weekend... DC Legends of Tomorrow Wales Comic Con Q&A Panel! With Matt Ryan smerdp posted Aug 13, 2024 FULL ARROW PANEL WCC 11/08/2024 (Stephen Amell, Colton Haynes, Brandon Routh & John Barrowman) Catherine Wright Aug 11, 2024 Edited August 14 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
tv echo August 21 Share August 21 From Aug. 17... Matt Ryan Talks Constantine @terrificon_CT Panel #constantine #dclegendsoftomorrow Velvetjoker1 posted Aug 20, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo September 5 Share September 5 (edited) Caity Lotz & Kyle Schmid Welcome Baby Girl September 4, 2024 https://extratv.com/2024/09/04/caity-lotz-and-kyle-schmid-welcome-baby-girl/ Quote Caity Lotz, 37, is a mom! The “Legends of Tomorrow” star and husband Kyle Schmid just welcomed a baby girl. Edited September 5 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo September 15 Share September 15 Greg Berlanti’s 20 Best Shows, Ranked By Vlada Gelman, Matt Webb Mitovich, Andy Swift, Dave Nemetz, Rebecca Iannucci September 14, 2024 https://tvline.com/lists/greg-berlanti-best-shows-ranked/ Quote 08 DC's Legends of Tomorrow ... Arrow and The Flash got more mainstream attention, but The CW’s zany mashup spinoff, which launched with characters from both shows, was the Arrowverse‘s most creatively ambitious effort. With an ever-evolving cast, cheeky humor and rollicking time-travel adventures, Legends was an absolute delight that deserved so much better than to be unceremoniously axed after its Season 7 finale cliffhanger. Like the lovable, misfit crew of the Waverider, the offshoot was a winning underdog. — V.G. Link to comment
tv echo September 16 Share September 16 Recorded Aug. 17... CONSTANTINE Matt Ryan Panel – Terrificon 2024 Fandom Spotlite posted Sep 15, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo October 6 Share October 6 From Comic-Con Guatemala yesterday (Oct. 5)... COMICON GUATEMALA OCT 5TH 2024 - BRANDON ROUTH LUKTAR posted Oct 6, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo October 9 Share October 9 (edited) From L.A. Comic Con on Oct. 5.... Arrowverse EP on Revival, Superhero Fatigue (Marc Guggenheim Interview) Brandon Davis posted Oct 8, 2024 -- MG: "Legends was not originally Legends. Originally the desire was, will you create a third Arrowverse show? And we were going to do Hawkman and Hawkgirl. That's why Hawkman and Hawkgirl are in Season 1 of Legends. But we very quickly realized, like, how is this any different from Arrow or Flash, because we - we knew we didn't want to just do a third show. Like, Arrow is very different from Flash, and Flash is very different from Arrow. Whatever the third show was, it had to be very different from both those shows... We were like, okay, we haven't done an ensemble yet. We haven't done a group, a team.... So here that is. And then, of course, it just became even more weird and - and different." Edited October 9 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo October 12 Share October 12 (edited) Caity Lotz and Brandon Routh are scheduled to appear at Dallas Fan Festival on Oct. 19-20... Guests include: David Ramsey, Willa Holland, Caity Lotz, Brandon Routh, Grant Gustin, Candice Patton, Danielle Panabaker, Carlos Valdes, Tom Cavanagh, Tyler Hoechlin, Bitsie Tulloch and Michael Cudlitz. (Stephen Amell had to cancel.) Edited October 12 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo October 22 Share October 22 Recorded Oct. 20.... Icons of the ARROWVERSE Panel HIGHLIGHTS - Ladies Unite from Arrow, The Flash, Legends and Superman APlus Hero Report posted Oct 22, 2024 Men of Steel: A Superman Legacy Panel HIGHLIGHTS w/ Brandon Routh, Dean Cain - Dallas Fan Festival APlus Hero Report posted Oct 22, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo October 27 Share October 27 Recorded on Oct 19... Legends of Tomorrow Panel HIGHLIGHTS w/ Brandon Routh and Caity Lotz - Dallas Fan Festival APlus Hero Report posted Oct 25, 2024 CAITY LOTZ TALKS ABOUT COLLECTING BEANIE BABIES AT DALLAS FAN FESTIVAL COMIC CON PANEL Next Issue Podcast posted Oct 23, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo November 10 Share November 10 (edited) MR talked about auditioning for the TV show Constantine, how he prepared for playing the role, the evolution of his Constantine character as he went from his own TV show to the animated series to Arrow and then to Legends, the Arrowverse crossovers, and being at the same comic con with Keanu Reeves... Matt Ryan Q&A | Nightmare Weekend Miami 2024 GalaxyCon posted Nov 8, 2024 ETA: This interview was recorded the third weekend in October. Edited November 10 by tv echo Link to comment
tv echo November 10 Share November 10 Recorded the first weekend in October... Matt Ryan | Full Q&A | Comic-Con Scotland 2024 Monopoly Events posted Oct 11, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo November 11 Share November 11 Kyle Schmid is Caity Lotz's husband... Kyle Schmid gets frank with Brandon Routh about Men's Mental Health Let's Be Frank Nov 10, 2024 Link to comment
tv echo Tuesday at 12:56 PM Share Tuesday at 12:56 PM (edited) From weekend of Nov 9-10... Brandon Routh | Full Q&A | Comic-Con Liverpool 2024 Monopoly Events posted Nov 19, 2024 Brandon Routh READY to return as Superman in James Gunn's DCEU! | Comic Con Liverpool Monopoly Events posted Nov 18, 2024 Edited Tuesday at 02:58 PM by tv echo Link to comment
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