S07.E19: Habeas Corpse

[WendyCR72]

When Richie “The Pitbull” Falco, a larger-than-life personal-injury attorney is found dead, Beckett and Castle investigate the many clients and competitors who had motive to kill him. But the mystery deepens when they discover a shocking secret that may be linked to Richie’s murder.

[McManda]

Beckett helping Alexis study is adorable.

 

I sort of love that Ryan's always the one that's left out of the kitchy pop culture references. He didn't know about the "I own a boat!" guy and he doesn't know about the personal injury lawyer's commercials.

 

I like the B-story in this episode. It feels very season two, and it's nice to see that these people have more of a life - personally and at work - than just solving cases. Castle and Beckett have a thing in the shower? Naked shower duets? I was hoping for something a little more salacious, but hey. I'll take what I can get. I love that Castle's first thought is that they'll spruce it up with dance steps first, and clothes are an afterthought.

 

Castle as a replacement for Kimmel? I laughed at that, and at Espo being disappointed that Kimmel had to drop out.

 

Oh my god, the dancing. That might be the first time Iaughed, out loud, for real, in a room by myself. Ryan totally has the boyband moves down. Can we have a whole episode about them prepping for a talent show? That would be amazing.

 

They would get Martha to choreograph their talent show routine. But why do I feel like Martha is friends with Kimmel or something and pulled some strings and got him to do the NYPD talent show so that Beckett didn't have to let Castle down?

 

Fun fact - that's exactly how recalls work. If it's less expensive for a company to pay out in the even of injury or death, they won't issue a recall.

 

For me Ryan and sequins wins over Jon and his light-up shoes. Even still, I vote for Jon or Seamus on Dancing with the Stars.

 

Ohhhhh... Castle knowing Kimmel makes much more sense, but I liked it better when I thought it was Martha. But it's still sweet, so I'll allow it. And it looks like Castle and Beckett didn't really have to add choreo to their shower thing, now did they?

 

This was a nice way to go into a mini-hiatus. I'll have to watch again for the murder plot, but I really liked the talent show storyline.

[merylinkid]

Oh good lord.   This show is supposed to be fluffy not stupid.   Look at Castle and Beckett wandering the woods alone with no one knowing where they were going AGAIN.    Look at Castle and Beckett get caught and tied up AGAIN.   Honestly, Castle start carrying a knife in your boot to cut the ropes, PLEASE.   Or better yet, don't wander alone.

 

Of COURSE Beckett wouldn't tell her husband she has stage fright.   Because as a former model this was such a crippling problem, she never thought to bring it up.  

 

Although why she was worried about the bet I had no clue.   If she lost, she didn't have to do anything.   Castle had to be make the dedication.

 

Oh yeah, case somewhere.   Ripped from the headlines.   Great thanks.

[McManda]

Of COURSE Beckett wouldn't tell her husband she has stage fright.   Because as a former model this was such a crippling problem, she never thought to bring it up.

 

I don't know, I'd probably be okay being made up by a professional and then walking in a straight line, with people watching or not. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like performing a (cheesy?) routine with my husband in front of people that I work with. I don't think they're the same at all. I'll buy stage fright at performing and not at modeling.

[verdana]

That promo of 7.20 made me laugh as soon as I saw the dingy, good to remind us show of what happened it was that long ago.

 

I wasn't remotely interested in the case this week, I was happy watching the B story play out over the talent competition between the boys and Caskett.   I like it when they have the four of them play off each other.

 

Okay Hanning which was the best scene ever on Castle? Ryan and Espo's dance routine or Castle and Beckett singing and dancing for Martha or the shower scene in silhouette at the end?  For me it was Ryan and Espo although I guess for most people it was the Caskett shower scene which of course was done in usual tasteful MilMar fashion. Tory you cockblocker! I note Ryan and Espo got interrupted by her, another reason for her to disappear I was enjoying it.

 

This is the woman who some fans think would make it as a highly successful politician given MilMar's hint yet she apparently suffers from stage fright and doesn't like the limelight. Yeah that makes sense. *sigh* Oh and I forgot about the modelling thanks Merylinkid.

 

Good to see Martha again and being supportive of Beckett wish we could have seen more of them together like this.

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[KaveDweller]

I really enjoyed this, mainly because of how much time was on non-case stuff.

 

Of COURSE Beckett wouldn't tell her husband she has stage fright.   Because as a former model this was such a crippling problem, she never thought to bring it up. 

 

She specifically said she has "song fright."  So modeling wouldn't have been a problem.  I think it was sweet that she was trying to support him by performing.  Of course knowing she wasn't going to perform well wouldn't totally help, but it was sweet that she was willing.

 

If she lost, she didn't have to do anything.   Castle had to be make the dedication.

 

Maybe she just likes when he makes the dedications to her.  As does most of the fandom, so I knew Castle was going to get out of that debt.

 

Oh, and we finally get an episode about Castle's disappearance and the promo has like 2 seconds of new footage? Really, ABC?

[McManda]

Tory you cockblocker! I note Ryan and Espo got interrupted by her, another reason for her to disappear I was enjoying it.

 

Their routine was essentially done, so I'm okay with it. :)

 

This is the woman who some fans think would make it as a highly successful politician given MilMar's hint yet she apparently suffers from stage fright and doesn't like the limelight. Yeah that makes sense. *sigh* Oh and I forgot about the modelling thanks Merylinkid.

 

Another reason Beckett isn't really suited for politics?

[Cyranetta]

I give a pass to the modeling thing. Modeling happened long before she had a concern for how she was perceived professionally, which was quite emphasized.

 

Overall found it charming, and the case intriguing enough to keep my attention.

[betsyboo]

did anyone else notice the body double in the shower had about 6 more inches of hair than Beckett?

 

I cannot WAIT to see the gag reel for this ep. When Ryan put on the helmet I busted out laughing.

[KaveDweller]

did anyone else notice the body double in the shower had about 6 more inches of hair than Beckett?

 

I cannot WAIT to see the gag reel for this ep. When Ryan put on the helmet I busted out laughing.

 

I totally noticed the hair.  This show has horrible attention to detail.

 

Speaking of gag reels.....I totally thought that Castle and Beckett jumping around like idiots trying to get the ties undone was going to get caught by the same camera that caught the PI guy who did it.  And that that was going to spread around the precinct, since it happened right after Beckett said she was worried about a video going viral. 

[McManda]

did anyone else notice the body double in the shower had about 6 more inches of hair than Beckett?

 

Hanning tweeted that it was really Stana and Nathan, but I think he means the singing. Because yeah, Beckett had hair down to her waist and Castle's biceps were nowhere near as large as they should've been.

 

Seeing it again, I'm confused about where their shower is. How did their shadows get on a wall that's parallel to their bed?

[verdana]

Another reason Beckett isn't really suited for politics?

 

Which means if they do have her going in that direction at any stage it will make me groan even more because it simply doesn't make sense for this individual no matter what her talents in other areas. 

 

Alexis is still going to college.  That's good to know and taking mid terms. Nice to see Beckett helping her out again I wish we saw more of this kind of interaction.

 

Okay I'm confused so she doesn't want to be a lawyer or a chief justice? I thought that was what she told Castle was her dream at one point? Have the writers forgotten that or has Beckett just changed her mind? My livestream was trippy tonight so I kept missing bits of dialogue. Can someone help me out here? 

 

They've remembered Castle is a celebrity?

 

Castle throwing paper at the disabled guy I could have done without remember who you are representing the NYPD.

 

What did Beckett get out of the deal "King Castle" made with the boys?  Seems it was all between Castle and the boys.

 

I love the way Castle just stands there while she does all the digging but it's very Castle that whilst she's fretting about the contest he's trying to lighten the mood around her concerns it's going to be a disaster. But I don't believe they dug that hole though, they never even bothered taking their jackets off for crying out loud and that deep you would have done.

[Hipshooter]

A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower when the doorbell rings. After a few seconds of arguing over which one should go and answer the doorbell, the wife gives up, quickly wraps herself up in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next door neighbor.
Before she says a word, Bob says, "I'll give you $800 to drop that towel that you have on."
After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob. After a few seconds, Bob hands her 800 dollars and leaves. Confused, but excited about her good fortune, the woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs.
When she gets back to the bathroom, her husband asks from the shower,
"Who was that?"
"It was Bob, the next door neighbor," she replies.
"Great!" the husband says, "Did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?"

[verdana]

Hanning tweeted that it was really Stana and Nathan, but I think he means the singing. Because yeah, Beckett had hair down to her waist and Castle's biceps were nowhere near as large as they should've been.

 

Seeing it again, I'm confused about where their shower is. How did their shadows get on a wall that's parallel to their bed?

Better get that plan out of the loft again.

 

I'm not surprised it wasn't them, why waste the leads valuable time when you don't see them? Get some stand ins.

[S55]

I might have enjoyed that final end scene of them in the shower if it weren't glaringly obvious that it wasn't them in silhouette. What, they couldn't get a female stand-in with the same length hair as Stana? What about, you know, her regular stand-in? Or as someone else mentioned, a man who matches Nathan's fantastic arms. Such unnecessary mistakes. 

 

The case was rather lackluster for me and the B-plot was OK. I felt like I had seen it before, so it wasn't anything special to me. I did enjoy the scenes with Beckett and Alexis and Beckett and Martha. And another Castle/Beckett interrogation! Here I thought those were a thing of the past. 

[McManda]

Okay I'm confused so she doesn't want to be a lawyer or a chief justice? I thought that was what she told Castle was her dream at one point? Have the writers forgotten that or has Beckett just changed her mind? My livestream was trippy tonight so I kept missing bits of dialogue. Can someone help me out here?

 

Dreams change, and she admitted hers did when her mom died.

 

But I don't believe they dug that hole though, they never even bothered taking their jackets off for crying out loud and that deep you would have done.

 

The hole wasn't all that deep. It was pretty long, but it was nowhere near deep enough to bury a "body" without someone noticing. If it had been a real body ... animals would have dug it up pretty quickly.

 

I'm not surprised it wasn't them, why waste the leads valuable time when you don't see them? Get some stand ins.

 

I don't care that it wasn't Stana and Nathan. All that really matters is that Castle and Beckett like to sing and dance in the shower. Also ... his shower is big enough to dance in?

 

Side note: Meredith Monroe looks really different, but I haven't seen her on TV since Dawson's Creek.

[GeorgieNY]

I might have enjoyed that final end scene of them in the shower if it weren't glaringly obvious that it wasn't them in silhouette. What, they couldn't get a female stand-in with the same length hair as Stana? What about, you know, her regular stand-in? Or as someone else mentioned, a man who matches Nathan's fantastic arms. Such unnecessary mistakes. 

 

I was annoyed by the bad double match as well, but just want to point out that there is a good chance Stana's stand in doesn't necessarily have the same length hair as she does. There is a difference between a stand in and a photo double. I have stood in for many actors I don't really resemble- just have the same coloring and height, but have body doubled for hair/hands/legs which were a close match.

That said, they should have gotten a better hair match for Stana and arm match for Nathan. :-)

[Nadine]

I've got no problem with the stage/song fright thing - because that goes back to her doubts of when they first got together (also a Kate Woods directed episode) and being different types of people (Castle being out there and her not preferring the spotlight) plus also liking her privacy (Limelight).

 

The wanting it so badly thing - I saw that as foreshadowing in terms of making a decision later on. But that could foreshadow anything children, politics, law, staying in the position she's currently in.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Nadine

[verdana]

I really enjoyed this, mainly because of how much time was on non-case stuff.

 

There was a case?  I couldn't tell you anything or even who did it. I heard something about a pit bull but that was it. This was a good episode to have before the dreaded mythology, they always follow a serious outing with lighter fare and especially this one when it's sandwiched between Ryan's troubles and Castle's disappearance.

 

She specifically said she has "song fright."  So modeling wouldn't have been a problem.  I think it was sweet that she was trying to support him by performing.  Of course knowing she wasn't going to perform well wouldn't totally help, but it was sweet that she was willing.

 

Oh song fright I though it was stage fright but I still think she'd make a lousy politician. 

 

"The only audience I care about is you." and Beckett: "Castle wants this so badly and I want to give this to him." I don't know if I can" Awwwww love seeing these two being supportive of each other that's why I watch the show. Glad they finally discussed her fears at the end, communicating about your hopes and fears is what makes a marriage work.

 

Oh, and we finally get an episode about Castle's disappearance and the promo has like 2 seconds of new footage? Really, ABC?

 

Oh they so care about this story. Heh.  I wish I could believe it's going to be worth the wait but I doubt it. 

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[KaveDweller]

Okay I'm confused so she doesn't want to be a lawyer or a chief justice? I thought that was what she told Castle was her dream at one point? Have the writers forgotten that or has Beckett just changed her mind? My livestream was trippy tonight so I kept missing bits of dialogue. Can someone help me out here?

 

It was her dream when she was in high school, as we know everything changed when her mom died.  When Castle asked if she regrets it she said that she'd rather take the criminals down.  But I wonder if they are going to make Alexis pursue a law degree?

 

Side note: Meredith Monroe looks really different, but I haven't seen her on TV since Dawson's Creek.

 

That WAS her, I thought so.  She was just on Hart of Dixie, but looked different (better) here.  They had to make her look older on that show because she had to be the mother of a 30-year-old.

[verdana]

I agree with S55 about the stand ins get better ones because it was distracting that it obviously wasn't them. If you're going to do something like that least get it looking right. 

 

It's always good to see Beckett get put into a position where she's not so comfortable especially when I recall how she was at the start of the show and Castle's comment "tell me something, you ever have any fun? You know, let your hair down, drop your top?" so I enjoyed seeing Beckett's willingness to do something that scares the living daylights out of her for Castle and may be end up looking silly even if in the end she didn't have the audience except Castle. 

 

But I wonder if they are going to make Alexis pursue a law degree?

 

Well she's got to have something to do and that's as good a pick as any. I did wonder if that's something they're going to pursue or drop like a stone. 

[shapeshifter]

Anyone else think the COTW was essentially an alternate telling of the story of Better Call Saul?

Oh good lord.   This show is supposed to be fluffy not stupid.   Look at Castle and Beckett wandering the woods alone with no one knowing where they were going AGAIN....

I haven't watched The Following since its first season, but still, all I could think of was: Even The Following would have an entire FBI team out there digging up the "body." But then I realized the entire Following FBI team would be axe-murdered by surprise, and I was glad to watch Castle and Becket doing silly jumps instead of stabby gore. I wonder if they also had a camera during that scene capturing them hitting themselves on their butts to break the zip ties. Maybe it didn't look as funny from the rear as it sounds.

[verdana]

Oh good lord.   This show is supposed to be fluffy not stupid.   Look at Castle and Beckett wandering the woods alone with no one knowing where they were going AGAIN....

It's both now, they have to go off alone for these funny things to happen, it's easier that way in any case for the writers. I don't expect them to go any where with back up on Castle, other police shows sure but not this one. 

Only one mention about her possible captaincy role this week but at least her career talk didn't feel quite as forced as it has previously. I wonder how long does it take to complete this exam?  Would it be realistic she's ready to find a position by the finale? 

[WendyCR72]

Would it be realistic she's ready to find a position by the finale?

 

Realism? Why start now.  :-)  Not to mention Beckett is at least a decade or so too young for any captain's job, but there's pesky reality again.

[Nadine]

Realism? Why start now.  :-)  Not to mention Beckett is at least a decade or so too young for any captain's job, but there's pesky reality again.

And the fact she skipped past a few promotions to get a Captain's ranking if she passes the test. Hehe.

[turnitwayup]

That B story was great. LOL at Espo dressed as Pharrell and Ryan as one of the Daft Punk guys. All they were missing is someone to dress up as Nile with his guitar smiling away. Loved they were doing a friendly bet that reminded me of The Double Down and Espo's fake injury reminded me of Punked. Fun that we got to see some dancing by Castle and Beckett with Martha's help. Cute that they like to sing and dance in the shower. Really sweet that Castle got them out of the talent show cause of Beckett's stage fright, but she was doing never seen karaoke at some bar at the Hamptons.  So she's fine with performing in front of strangers but not in front of colleagues. This back and forthness on her character makes it ridiculous that she would be suited for politics.

 

So is Alexis interested in law now? I wish they would tell us what is her major.

 

Yeah I agree Meredith Monroe looked so different with that hair style in her 1st scene. Last thing I saw her in was a rerun of Criminal Minds and I think she was suppose to be in her late 30s on there.

 

Every time someone said "Pitbull" I kept thinking of Nathan's love for the guy when he hosted the AMAs. Then I kept cracking myself up with "the hammer is my penis" in the last scene with Castle, Beckett and the guy filming his commercial.

 

I think that hospital set might has a much screentime or maybe more that the morgue this season.

 

Overall, is ep was more enjoyable that the last 2 eps. I did kinda lol at the new promo. Was there even new footage?

[verdana]

 

Realism? Why start now. :-) Not to mention Beckett is at least a decade or so too young for any captain's job, but there's pesky reality again.

 

Okay I was asking for that. Heh. With all these mentions about the captaincy I wonder if they're going to have her make an announcement in the finale that she's passed the exam and then I can start about worrying about Gates' health as she gets shot in a dramatic cliffhanger. Yeah I know she'll have skipped about a couple of stages she should have taken too. 

 

turnitwayup. Yeah she did karaoke in that bar in the Hamptons and she's also sung in the precinct too admittedly only with the boys and Montgomery. I agree about the back and forth make it crazy that she should ever get into politics. 

Do you see, what I’m seeing?

 

Nice work boys. 

[verdana]

I did kinda lol at the new promo. Was there even new footage?

I think there might have been a brief shot in the middle but it's so long ago and Driven and Montreal I'm trying to forget about. I loved the way they started the promo with "Last year Richard Castle disappeared.." Really? I would never have known based on the characters reactions for the vast majority of the season.  

[turnitwayup]

Rewatching the ending and I notice Robert Duncan sort of did the beginning Happy chords when Espo put on the hat. I really hope that dvd extra is seeing the full Get Lucky routine in the outfits.

[oberon55]

Castle was right. Beckett is a mystery that will never be solved. Especially when they keep moving the goal posts. The only way to keep up is to forget anything that happened in the past and run with whatever they say this week. Forget karaoke or the fact that she was fired by the FBI. As of now she has stage fright & quit the DC job. I can't wait until the next time they peal another layer of the Beckett onion.

[verdana]

oberon55. It's a moveable feast alright oh but they're not peeling the Beckett onion, it's the Castle onion this season didn't you get the memo?

 

A few gifs, I think the shower scene is better in gifs actually. 

 

Breaking zipties - Castle style

 

"Castle" and "Beckett" putting on their own private show 

 

Espo and the hat

 

My live feed skipped and I missed this hat scene. Heh. 

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[verdana]

Castle Hints More at Beckett's Future — Plus: Watch RySpo 'Get Lucky' by Matt at TV Line

 

Good to see Matt knew what the main draw was here - the b story about the talent show, doesn't sound like I missed much not paying any attention to the case.

 

As for the Case of the Week itself: the less said, the better. A shlocky, as-seen-on-TV lawyer nicknamed “The Pitbull” got offed by an even cornier rival, all over a crash test dummy that incriminated a fictional auto maker in covering up a defect. Why they decided to bury the dummy, wrapped like a body, deep in the woods versus, say, simply stow in a storage locker somewhere, made little sense. But hey, Andie McPhee/Mrs. Hotchner sighting!

 

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[verdana]

Under my skin

 

Jesus some people sure are quick on the fan fiction front. LOL

[madmaverick]

The dancing was nice (and only 2 minutes rehearsal?!) but I really enjoyed the singing.  Nathan and Stana really sound great together.  I would love to see/hear the full duet as a DVD extra or even as a charity single.

 

I suppose the only way we were ever going to get a shower scene on this show was in silhouette. ;)   The shower moves were fun, but would have liked it even more if the body doubles resembled the actors some more, or better yet, we got the real thing.  Even just a head and shoulder shot of the real Castle and Beckett singing together in the shower would have been loved.  I did like finding out that they had a singing in the shower routine together heh.  It's these little quirks that make them more interesting and romantic as a couple.

 

Hanning is more adept at writing the banter than some of the other writers, so I enjoyed the fun interplay between the characters, but he couldn't save the murder story from being boring.  I was keen to get back to the talent show B-story but we kept getting dragged into one interrogation and person of interest after another.  And I didn't care about any of them.  Even with one of the better writers, the murder mystery is too often like an albatross weighing down the episode and keeping us from the fun bits.  

 

I always love how Castle and Beckett are willing to do things for the other even if it may not be what they want, and putting the other first above themselves.  That quality really solidifies for me their strength as a couple. So the gestures from both Castle and Beckett for each other were nice to behold.

 

Also nice to see some organic Martha and Alexis interaction with Beckett.

 

The boys were fun, but I guess I wasn't too surprised by their boy band performance.  

 

More subtle career anvils this episode, but I guess things will be coming to a resolution by season end. 

 

Really sweet that Castle got them out of the talent show cause of Beckett's stage fright, but she was doing never seen karaoke at some bar at the Hamptons.  So she's fine with performing in front of strangers but not in front of colleagues. This back and forthness on her character makes it ridiculous that she would be suited for politics.

 

 

Ha, at first I read that the back and forthness made her suitable to be a politician, considering how many politicians are like. ;)  Good catch with the karaoke bit of history.  And didn't Castle get her onstage Courteny Cox style with Springsteen for Dancing in the Dark.  But I guess he didn't know about her (unwritten) stage fright then.  Not surprised that the viewers are far better at catching this stuff than the writers.  To be honest, they could just as well have Beckett back to being interested in the law in the episode.  Anything goes with her career moves since they don't seem to value or have built up consistency. 

 

I went back to rewatch the season opener recently to refresh myself about the mythology since I was getting amnesia about it too. ;)   Definitely think they've made a mistake in making it far too convoluted without being interesting at all.  They got a lot of elements to explain away, if they even care about that.  The money drop. The infamous camping in the too small tent and the fear of tsunamis.  The fake guy in the trailer.  Being found floating at sea for days in a dinghy.  The recorded videos in the letters to Castle's family in the safety deposit box in Montreal.  The story about what he saw in the woods as a kid. Good luck writing a story that makes sense, as Castle would say. ;)  They'll probably just go and explain it all with Unlimited Resources bs.  I really hope we're not back to doubting Castle's role as a victim in his disappearance because that annoyed me just as much on rewatch.  I really didn't care for Beckett and Espo doubting him and he being the most apologetic despite from all appearances, the victim of a crime and some conspiracy.

Edited March 31, 2015 by madmaverick

[verdana]

“I don’t want to let him down. He wants this so badly. I wanna give it to him but I just I don’t know that I can.”

 

Some say this is baby foreshadowing but if it is then what kind of story would they be attempting? Castle is suddenly devastated because Beckett's not sure about wanting babies at this point? She decides her career is the priority. Given that Castle has been overwhelming supportive expressing no strong opinions whatsoever I don't see there would be a problem with any decisions she makes. Unless they're going to create friction between them over her life choices to generate some drama. In any case the guy has a child it's hardly as if he's going be furious if Beckett says kids are on hold.  Castle doesn't make demands of any one that's been part of the problem with his character, he doesn't have much of interest to say at all these days. 

madmaverick. To add to your list how/where did he catch dengue fever and didn't he get shot too?  It's all coming back to me now thanks heh.

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[madmaverick]

Castle has always been shown to be supportive of Beckett in her career, so I would find it out of character if they generate conflict by Castle being unhappy if Beckett wants to put off kids for a bit.  It's not like she would be saying never.  What I've gotten from the baby episode and from the hints this season is that Beckett is fairly sure she wants kids too and is more and more comfortable with it happening sometime in the not too distant future.  Not sure they are going to touch on kids much with the career stuff actually.  And I hope we're not heading for an infertility storyline. 

[verdana]

I was keen to get back to the talent show B-story but we kept getting dragged into one interrogation and person of interest after another.  And I didn't care about any of them.  Even with one of the better writers, the murder mystery is too often like an albatross weighing down the episode and keeping us from the fun bits.

 

 

The talent competition b story was fun and a chance to see them doing something other than talking about case solving incessantly, something I've been desperately wanting them to do on a regular basis. Quit filling the episodes with case exposition that does not further my interest in the characters one bit let's see them doing other things which gives the characters more depth, makes me feel as if they have real lives that don't stop when the case is done and the credits roll.

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[merylinkid]

Have they ever even touched on whether or not Castle wants to be a dad again?   Sure he is a great dad to Alexis, but that doesn't mean he wants to do the sleepless nights, diaper changing thing again.    If Beckett wants babies, he will go along with it, I am sure.   But if she decides she doesn't -- or she can't for some reason -- he will be okay with that too.   Well, if the writers remember that Castle is not 20 something anymore and maybe has his baby raising days behind him.   But hey, let's not look for consistency here.

[madmaverick]

I think Castle does want kids again, with Beckett.  They seem to have agreed on that all important decision off screen ;) and a future with kids was referenced in the baby episode.  Castle is a big kid himself sometimes, likes kids, prides himself as a Rh.D. and baby whisperer heh, and he wants to do raise a kid again with a partner this time. 

[Lucynda]

It's been a while since I've been this entertained by a Castle episode. I was laughing out loud multiple times.

 

Absolutely loved the scenes with Martha and Alexis; also because for the first time in months, they didn't feel forced.

 

I enjoyed the dynamic in this episode in general: Espo & Ryan, the competition between the three of them, Castle elegantly solving Beckett's song fright problem, Castle & Beckett dancing. It was great.

 

And I do buy into Beckett having song/stage fright now but having modeled in her teens. I think it's first of all different to perform for people you know than to do so for people you don't know. Second, she was 17 at the time. At that age you are a lot less shy about things and usually just go for it. At 20, 30 or 40 you are more likely to over-think things and worry about how it's going to reflect on yourself. And third, do we know if Beckett ever walked a catwalk? I'm not sure that was ever implied, and if she only did photoshoots, she didn't really have an audience.

[Nadine]

Some say this is baby foreshadowing but if it is then what kind of story would they be attempting? Castle is suddenly devastated because Beckett's not sure about wanting babies at this point? She decides her career is the priority. Given that Castle has been overwhelming supportive expressing no strong opinions whatsoever I don't see there would be a problem with any decisions she makes. Unless they're going to create friction between them over her life choices to generate some drama. In any case the guy has a child it's hardly as if he's going be furious if Beckett says kids are on hold.  Castle doesn't make demands of any one that's been part of the problem with his character, he doesn't have much of interest to say at all these days.

 

It could be foreshadowing anything not just babies (as I mentioned in my post above). He's been supportive in terms of her next career move (that we've seen in the past few episodes), and that is also what that line could be foreshadowing as well. That she wants to make the right choice so it's the best not only for her but also him, etc. So that scares her because if she chooses to go down one avenue (it will be like DC Part Two) and decides no I shouldn't (it can even be foreshadowing Alexis with what she chooses to graduate in).

 

Also thought the human line at the end was a throwback to the final scene in Dressed to Kill.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Nadine

[shapeshifter]

Castle has always been shown to be supportive of Beckett in her career, so I would find it out of character if they generate conflict by Castle being unhappy if Beckett wants to put off kids for a bit.  It's not like she would be saying never.  What I've gotten from the baby episode and from the hints this season is that Beckett is fairly sure she wants kids too and is more and more comfortable with it happening sometime in the not too distant future.  Not sure they are going to touch on kids much with the career stuff actually.  And I hope we're not heading for an infertility storyline.

I think the Captain/career anvils and the baby anvils serve each other nicely. A desk job can be much easier to work into a pregnancy story. OTOH, in a show that has a detective and a consultant digging up a remote crime scene without a crew of CSIs, I suppose a crime fighting pregnant woman tackling perps would also work. And if they want to go the infertility route, I'm sure there will be an adorable orphan of some crime for them to take into their home.

[verdana]

A few things on re-watch and a less jumpy feed.

 

Another interrupted kiss in the morning scene in the loft, I actually missed that last night and wish I hadn't seen it now. Do the writers take some kind of stupid pride out of doing this every damn fucking episode? Sorry but it drives me nuts. Urgh.  

 

We're back to Alexis calling Kate "Beckett" again?  I like it when she calls her Kate.

 

Still don't care about the case, fast forwarded through those bits.

 

On rewatch, Kate's fear of performing on stage felt somewhat overdone, what she said to Martha it was fear of the performance and getting stage/song fright that was her focus and it had nothing much to do with jeopardising her authority as a future captain. I would have taken her confession to Martha more seriously about her abject fear of singing in front of strangers if I didn't already know she's sung in public - in different ways but it's happened - and Rick apparently didn't notice her discomfort which she made sound bad. I know it was meant to be light episode but I wish the writers had her being this scared about something a little more sensible than a song and dance act with Castle.

 

As for the modelling I don't think they ever said if she did any cat walk events.

 

Who was Martha going to want have doing the splits? Kate or Rick or both during their dance routine? Heh. I think Nathan has a bad back so I doubt we would see too much movement from him if they had taken it further. I sometimes think the way he stiffly moves these days he's carrying some kind of injury? I don't know.

 

Oh yeah the silhouette scene. Nice try writers, fans have wanted to see them in the shower for years so the thought was there but as usual the execution was poor, at least get two people who look like Castle and Beckett to do it.  

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[S55]

It could be foreshadowing anything not just babies (as I mentioned in my post above). He's been supportive in terms of her next career move (that we've seen in the past few episodes), and that is also what that line could be foreshadowing as well. That she wants to make the right choice so it's the best not only for her but also him, etc. So that scares her because if she chooses to go down one avenue (it will be like DC Part Two) and decides no I shouldn't (it can even be foreshadowing Alexis with what she chooses to graduate in).

 

Also thought the human line at the end was a throwback to the final scene in Dressed to Kill.

 

I picked up on that human line from Castle too. 

 

I still maintain my theory that her passing the captain's exam/being offered a promotion is going to coincide/crash with her either thinking she's pregnant or finding out she really is in the finale. 

Edited March 31, 2015 by S55

[verdana]

I think the Captain/career anvils and the baby anvils serve each other nicely. A desk job can be much easier to work into a pregnancy story. OTOH, in a show that has a detective and a consultant digging up a remote crime scene without a crew of CSIs, I suppose a crime fighting pregnant woman tackling perps would also work. And if they want to go the infertility route, I'm sure there will be an adorable orphan of some crime for them to take into their home.

But if she's forced into sitting at a desk for any length of time that's boring, I don't want her turning into a younger version of Gates and if she's out in the field whilst pregnant Beckett is going to get it in the neck endlessly from some fans about being a crappy mother who doesn't care about harming her baby. Any pregnancy has to happen mostly off screen during the hiatus when it comes. If they decide on an infertility story I can't face these writers tackling that serious issue, they'll probably end up offending just about everyone in various ways. 

[madmaverick]

So which was the scene that Hanning proclaimed to be "the best scene in all the history of Castle, possibly in all of TV"? ;)  I know it was tongue in cheek, but still...

 

Now I finally know what all of Luke's robes are for!   It's so they can take them off for recess in chambers heh.  Beckett should have wielded her authority to squash that interruption.  How dare anyone interrupt the court's sexytimes!

 

Also enjoyed the Castle/Gates dynamic.  I think the writers do too.

 

Most of the dialogue that was not case-related was entertaining and caught my attention.  But the minute they don't inject the core characters' personalities into the crime expositional dialogue, the scene gets boring.  So they've got to work harder at that.  Unless they can craft a really compelling mystery and POIs.

 

Hm... maybe the boys' "Crime of Our Lives" performance will be a DVD extra, i.e. the secret show related project Jon and Seamus have said they are excited to be working on?  But the one I really want is the Caskett duet in full!

 

I still maintain my theory that her passing the captain's exam/being offered a promotion is going to coincide/crash with her either thinking she's pregnant or finding out she really is in the finale.

 

Possibly.  But I don't like the idea that it should generate angst or conflict.  Why can't women have it all in this day and age?   Especially with a supportive spouse like Castle.

 

Who was Martha going to want have doing the splits? Kate or Rick or both during their dance routine? Heh. I think Nathan has a bad back so I doubt we would see too much movement from him if they had taken it further. I sometimes think the way he stiffly moves these days he's carrying some kind of injury? I don't know.

 

Heh. I wondered about the splits too.  I think Kate probably could as we've been told she's very flexible by Castle hehe.  I don't think Castle should attempt any especially as Capt. Tightpants heh.  Also loved that Kate called Castle 'Rick' with Martha.  Always love it when she does.  And Castle's got to have supersonic ears to have overheard that conversation as there was a shot of him on the phone in the study while they were talking.

 

They did well with the dance especially if they only rehearsed for 2 mins.  Reminded me of the S1 dancing at the gala, dip included.  Don't know how long they rehearsed the singing, if at all, but it felt really in sync as well.  Nathan and Stana really are talented performers and have been showing great chemistry this season, which is still the top reason I still watch and enjoy the show.

 

The zip tie ass bouncing with them hopping like bunnies was amusing.  I'm a bit sceptical that it would work in real life though according to the writers it does.  Not about to experiment like Caslte though. ;)  I love that Beckett is willing to give these crazy ideas a try now with Castle while she would have mocked him and rolled her eyes in earlier seasons.  It's another sign of trust and love.

 

madmaverick. To add to your list how/where did he catch dengue fever and didn't he get shot too?  It's all coming back to me now thanks heh.

 

Oh yeah, how could I forget those?  I'll probably have amnesia about all the elements of his disappearance by the time the episode rolls around. ;)

Edited March 31, 2015 by madmaverick

[verdana]

Oh yeah, how could I forget those?  I'll probably have amnesia about all the elements of his disappearance by the time the episode rolls around. ;)

I can't face re-watching those first two episodes again in order to get up to speed. I know I should. There's a few things that stick in the mind like the tent, the fever and the dingy oh and Espo being annoying. May be they'll do a series of helpful flashbacks in the episode like they did in the two parter to help fans like me out who can't remember much or perhaps more accurately don't care to. However, I'd rather Amann and Marlowe don't do a round of interviews promoting the episode because I know they won't stop saying the "m" word. Argh! 

 

Also loved that Kate called Castle 'Rick' with Martha.

 

That was sweet and I loved their little heart to heart, please can we see more before the season ends. Funny Martha's meant to be looking for new digs and yet she has the best scene she's had in a while in the loft there and probably of the entire episode. Susan has good chemistry with everyone. 

 

Also on rewatch I liked the little clap and laugh that Stana did when she finishes her routine all pleased and Martha applauds her. Cute. 

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana

[Samantha84]

Not to mention Beckett is at least a decade or so too young for any captain's job, but there's pesky reality again.

 

Beckett skips sergeant and lieutenant and goes straight to captain, huh? W. this show? Not surprising. Beckett: Super Cop.

 

Those stand ins were laughably noticeable. We KNOW it wasn't Nathan b/c ... well, ya know ... but the Stana stand in? Stana's hair is shoulder length but the shower stand in's hair was down her back ... the ends were damn near touching her ass.

[MDL]

 

We're back to Alexis calling Kate "Beckett" again?  I like it when she calls her Kate.

I think that they (the writers) may do that because Castle calls her both "Beckett" and "Kate".....

 

Wait, what am I thinking?  That logic probably  gives the writers too much credit!!   :)

[verdana]

Castle: Habeas Corpse – A Good Cop/Bad Cop Review by Lee Lofland 
 

Okay, show of hands. How many of you knew, as I did, the victim of the salvage truck shrapnel would be the key to solving this case? And, how many of you knew, as I did, that the Savanna Hammer was the killer?

 
Lee wasn't that impressed with them going off alone again into the woods to investigate and destroy any evidence during their dig but that's Castle for you it was never meant to be taking police procedure that seriously as Lee is finding to his cost. Heh.

Edited March 31, 2015 by verdana