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The 7-course dinner is a producer thing, to make the chef and the stews work.  Also deck crew is roped into busing and washing dishes.

So it was artificial for Lara to think Tzarina chose a 7-course dinner just to put her out.

The Harry and Bri are they boyfriend and girlfriend thing was so tiresome.  In general they overplayed the crew coupling up too much.  All for what, it’s not interesting to watch so they’re hoping for some salacious moaning?

I didn’t watch the usual exit parade in the season finale.  All the BD shows are now so similar, none of them given breathing space to be different, which was the case with BDDU season 1, which wasn’t so heavy handed with producer interventions.

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What is Lara's problem?!? Her obsession with Tsarina "betraying" her is pathetic. Get over yourself. Just do your job. Nobody cares. I don't get why she made it Tsarina's fault the guests wanted a 7 course meal. It was on their preference sheet!! Sorry it made her job so hard. No one else was bitching about it and it seemed to have run smoothly. Argh, she takes no accountability on anything. Can't believe she is actually a Chief Stew. Glad to see everyone else had a good end of season experience. 

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I feel like this show was on forever. It’s past time to say goodbye. 
Why was Nate chuckling like a buffoon at his mistake?  He’s always smiling and cheesing when theres nothing funny. I guess Wihan was so terrible that the goofball brothers don’t seem as bad. 
Goofy Harry slobbering all over Bri and her pretending she likes it is disgusting! Nobody wants to see that. I was really hoping she dumped him in the finale. 
Nick didn’t really like Marina. I don’t believe they went anywhere together, I think he just walked out with her for filming. I’m not sure if she was desperate or just acting. Either way she was a dud. She started complaining that service would take forever during the seven course meal. Hey idiot,  you spent the first 3/4s of the season complaining about not being on service. Lazy. 
Lara is such a drama queen asshole. The way she came for Tzarina about the seven courses because she is too lazy to wash silverware was pathetic. At the dinner I thought Tzarinas compliment while not super genuine, was meant to smooth over the bad blood between her and Lara. Instead of accepting it, Lara made that hideous face that was not only ugly but scary. What a lazy and mean girl stupid gross pig! 
Why the hell were Alesia and Tzarina making out??? They are not attracted to each other and that was gross to watch. I’m sure they think they were being sexy but both are on the dorky side and I doubt anyone was impressed.


 

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OK so there has been a lot of back and forth on this Lara vs. Tzarina stuff, and we can all agree they both have issues. But for the love of Pete - there is something seriously wrong with Lara. She's a narcissist who always has to have her way and if anyone gets in her way she finds reasons to hate them. 

She didn't want to serve a seven course meal even though it was on the guests' preference sheet (regardless of whether or not they really asked for it). She didn't want to wash dishes between courses or walk up and down the stairs that much. She says "they barely eat anything." Uh - that's because they were seasick from the swells. Now the sea is calm and they want to eat.

So she basically forces Tzarina to confront the guests and ask if they would rather have fewer courses. They tell her no, they want all seven and if it's too much they just won't eat some of it. Which makes Lara tell the camera "I want to strangle Tzarina." It's not Tzarina's fault!! WTF is wrong with this woman? I guess Tzarina was supposed to tell the guests, in no uncertain terms, "No, you can't have seven courses, period." And she didn't, because of course you don't tell the guests they can't have the meal they requested, but now it's Tzarina's fault.

Then Lara starts bitching to Bree again. Says she has to have a talk with Tzarina. "She thinks everything is OK just because I said I'm sorry." Uh, what is she supposed to think? Oh. She's supposed to understand you didn't mean it. You only said it because Jason made you. And now you're bringing up that comment she made about you being late to work, because it's literally the only thing Tzarina's done wrong that you can hold onto and you're never going to let it go.

Then Tzarina tries to compliment her at the crew dinner and Lara makes a stink face and says Tzarina doesn't mean it. So what? Take the compliment and stop complaining about Tzarina! 

I know what her problem is. She's used to being Queen Bee and getting her way and she didn't get her way on this show so she has to blame someone. Someone has to be the villain. She tells Tzarina "you didn't make me feel like I was a good chief stew" and that's because Tzarina didn't do everything she wanted her to do like a good little minion. 

She keeps telling us how miserable she is but then tells Jason is was the best experience in her life. Eff Off.

Good grief. I hope all the cast members watched this last episode and realized what a pill this woman is. There was never anything Tzarina could do to make her happy.

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12 hours ago, iMonrey said:

OK so there has been a lot of back and forth on this Lara vs. Tzarina stuff, and we can all agree they both have issues. But for the love of Pete - there is something seriously wrong with Lara. She's a narcissist who always has to have her way and if anyone gets in her way she finds reasons to hate them. 

She didn't want to serve a seven course meal even though it was on the guests' preference sheet (regardless of whether or not they really asked for it). She didn't want to wash dishes between courses or walk up and down the stairs that much. She says "they barely eat anything." Uh - that's because they were seasick from the swells. Now the sea is calm and they want to eat.

So she basically forces Tzarina to confront the guests and ask if they would rather have fewer courses. They tell her no, they want all seven and if it's too much they just won't eat some of it. Which makes Lara tell the camera "I want to strangle Tzarina." It's not Tzarina's fault!! WTF is wrong with this woman? I guess Tzarina was supposed to tell the guests, in no uncertain terms, "No, you can't have seven courses, period." And she didn't, because of course you don't tell the guests they can't have the meal they requested, but now it's Tzarina's fault.

Then Lara starts bitching to Bree again. Says she has to have a talk with Tzarina. "She thinks everything is OK just because I said I'm sorry." Uh, what is she supposed to think? Oh. She's supposed to understand you didn't mean it. You only said it because Jason made you. And now you're bringing up that comment she made about you being late to work, because it's literally the only thing Tzarina's done wrong that you can hold onto and you're never going to let it go.

Then Tzarina tries to compliment her at the crew dinner and Lara makes a stink face and says Tzarina doesn't mean it. So what? Take the compliment and stop complaining about Tzarina! 

I know what her problem is. She's used to being Queen Bee and getting her way and she didn't get her way on this show so she has to blame someone. Someone has to be the villain. She tells Tzarina "you didn't make me feel like I was a good chief stew" and that's because Tzarina didn't do everything she wanted her to do like a good little minion. 

She keeps telling us how miserable she is but then tells Jason is was the best experience in her life. Eff Off.

Good grief. I hope all the cast members watched this last episode and realized what a pill this woman is. There was never anything Tzarina could do to make her happy.

Very well stated.  The odd thing is that so many of the crew seem to love Lara.  According to Harry on WWHL, even Tzarina and Harry are currently on the outs...even though they were close enough between seasons to visit each other.  I feel that Lara caused a divide among the crew with her animosity toward Tzarina and her mean girl games.  I'm glad it didn't work with Alecia.  

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10 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

The odd thing is that so many of the crew seem to love Lara.  According to Harry on WWHL, even Tzarina and Harry are currently on the outs...even though they were close enough between seasons to visit each other.  I feel that Lara caused a divide among the crew with her animosity toward Tzarina and her mean girl games.

I'm hoping they change their minds after they watch this. Nobody else was around when Lara made Tzarina go talk to the guests and try to talk them out of the seven course meal. I think that's very telling, because why didn't Lara herself ask the guests if they were sure they wanted seven courses? Isn't that her job? She was setting up Tzarina one way or the other - either she gets the blame from the captain if the guests complain, or she gets the blame from Lara if the guests refuse.

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I don’t think I could handle watching another season with Lara being Chief Stew. Especially if she has to work with chef Tzarina again. Lara  is not a team player and has been perfectly described by some of you above. I don’t find it amusing or entertaining. 
 

What was Capt Jason going to do with the fish? Do they just stay on the boat with whatever Captain is working? 
 

The best part of this season was the underwater film footage. 

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The episode was boring. The show was more interesting with Wihan and Johnny on (unfortunately). More drama. 

Lara couldn't help herself. Tzarina tried to end the season on a high note by complimenting her, but Lara would have any of it. Also, her objection to the seven course meal was not legitimate (and the decision had nothing to do with Tzarina) because that's what the guests wanted.

The Bri-Harry romance was a little bizarre from the beginning, so there is no surprise it didn't last.

The boat incident made Nate look incompetent. 

 

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13 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

The episode was boring. The show was more interesting with Wihan and Johnny on (unfortunately). 

 

 

It was. You had your too dumb for his own good villain in Wihan. You had your sweet hunk of man hard worker with the bad temper in Johnny. Nate was a complete dud. He’s probably not a bad dude in real life but he’s not good tv. Nick seemed like a nice guy but also not too exciting to watch.

 

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13 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

It was. You had your too dumb for his own good villain in Wihan. You had your sweet hunk of man hard worker with the bad temper in Johnny. Nate was a complete dud. He’s probably not a bad dude in real life but he’s not good tv. Nick seemed like a nice guy but also not too exciting to watch.

 

I think Nick is really great, though he isn't one to bring the drama.  On WWHL, they had a whole segment about him being a nerd and quizzed him about his favorite things.  Plus, his voice is amazing... he should do voice-over work.

22 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I'm hoping they change their minds after they watch this. Nobody else was around when Lara made Tzarina go talk to the guests and try to talk them out of the seven course meal. I think that's very telling, because why didn't Lara herself ask the guests if they were sure they wanted seven courses? Isn't that her job? She was setting up Tzarina one way or the other - either she gets the blame from the captain if the guests complain, or she gets the blame from Lara if the guests refuse.

I was literally asking the same question!  The other chief stews would have brought it up with the guests and given some reasons for shortening the menu--length of dinner, too much food, etc.  Also, Tzarina could have come up with some smaller courses- an amuse bouche, for example. Or, use a variety of plating options to make it easier on the stews or whoever is doing the dishes.

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3 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I think Nick is really great, though he isn't one to bring the drama.  On WWHL, they had a whole segment about him being a nerd and quizzed him about his favorite things.  Plus, his voice is amazing... he should do voice-over work

He's so cute and his voice is sooo deep. I think he also looks and sounds so much like Henry Golding that it kinda freaks me out. I wouldn't mind seeing him again on this show to see if he turns into an asshole.

I hope that the crew realize that Tzarina wasn't completely at fault for the shit with Lara and reach out to her. Lara's last conversation with Tzarina was kind of ridiculous because I felt they had squashed their beef. Then suddenly she's mad at Tzarina again and talking about her to Bri. Huh?!  Did a producer put her up to it?

So are Harry and Bri not together anymore? I actually don't mind Harry. Bri was blah and quite far up Lara's ass. Bri was kinda shitty towards Tzarina over Lara when she was on WWHL, especially considering how Tzarina consoled Bri during her meltdown when she was doing cabins. That just turned me off Bri.

I hope Lara is a one and done for this show. She isn't even unlikable enough to hate. She totally had the hots for Jason which was amusing.  Oh and her eyebrows were very distracting. Is she just a natural brunette and dyes her hair without matching her brows? I thought of it everytime she was on the screen, mostly while on the boat. It wasn't as obvious during her interviews.

All in all, I enjoyed the season, Lara aside. True, it was a little boring, but I'm okay with that, I can only handle so much on my Bravo shows and The Valley is toxic enough for me.

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  Kate would eat Lara alive.  With some salsa.

This pirate thang is just stupid beyond stupid.  Production's brilliant idea?

Nate babysitting the stuck tender.  LOL.  Props to him for not trying to shirk the blame and Jason respected that.  Lucky the locals came to help.

Lara is the worst.  Whining about the 7 course dinner and washing dishes.  Don't you have the whole deck crew to help?   You knew it was coming.

It was on the preference sheet!  Don't ya read gurll.

At least the swell died down.  Guests loved the food.

Let it go Lara.  Whining about Tzarina makes you look like a petty, whiny, barely competent bitch or just a mean girl.  Find another line of work.

Nice of Tsarina praising Alysia.  Smart to ditch Nate.  Your career is more important.

Just give me naked pancakes.  I really don't like blueberries, except fresh ones in Maine in the summer.

Nice tip!  I figure about $14K per person on the season.

Hadn't noticed Tsarina was hot for the stupid helmet.  Whatever.

Then she says nice things about Lara and mean girl just finds a way to get cranky.  There is no pleasing her.  Cut her loose Tsarina and may we never see her again.

Fire dance was amazing and the rain was a nice touch.  Some interesting dancing in the dirt.

Jason could be a diplomat.  Longtime friends?  That's some wishful thinking.

Nate has a great attitude, not obsessing over Alysia.

Bri and Harry just annoy me.  Marina and Nic, meh.  Adair was almost invisible.

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I must've missed something. not seeing Lara as the worst chief stew ever!

Tzarina was being hella fake at that final dinner, playing nice in front of Jason. Most of the crew knew it too, watch Harry's eyes. Bri, Marina, Harry have all criticized Tzarina post season which tells me something.

That said, Lara has her faults (including that horrific final night dinner ensemble complete with winged eyeliner) but having a conversation with the guests before plowing ahead with a seven course menu wasn't a bad idea. We've seen guests be seemingly surprised by what's on their preference sheet & seven courses is going to be a long ass dinner service.

Tzarina's food looks delicious, no doubt she's a talented chef. But I find her so obnoxiously needy yet completely prickly, all at the same time. If I had to guess, she has little/no real close friends, is constantly yearning for those connections in the workplace & is often disappointed because she can't ANY criticism. 

Alesia is sweet but I think she has a bit of a drinking problem. 

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2 hours ago, snarts said:

having a conversation with the guests before plowing ahead with a seven course menu wasn't a bad idea.

Then why didn't Lara do it herself? Why did she have to have Tzarina do it? 

I find it hysterical that Lara accused Tzarina of being fake by complimenting her when clearly Lara's apology to Tzarina was fake.

2 hours ago, snarts said:

Tzarina's food looks delicious, no doubt she's a talented chef. But I find her so obnoxiously needy yet completely prickly, all at the same time.

I agree she is both of those things, and hopefully this season will have taught her not to be so needy. That said, Lara was the cause of the problems and friction between them, not Tzarina. Yes, Tzarina has some issues but Lara was the instigator in almost any situation I can think of.

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4 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Then why didn't Lara do it herself? Why did she have to have Tzarina do it?

Because she's the chef? We've often seen BD chefs discuss the menu directly with the guests. Eliminates any miscommunication. 

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That said, Lara was the cause of the problems and friction between them, not Tzarina. Yes, Tzarina has some issues but Lara was the instigator in almost any situation I can think of.

Agree to disagree. From my vantage point, Tzarina took every small work disagreement/slight (real or imaginary) personally, escalating them into a huge war. She'd then sit & cry to the guys (often on their nights out) just so she could rub herself all-over them. 

I'd rather work with a thousand Laras than deal with Tzarina but YMMV. 

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7 minutes ago, snarts said:

Because she's the chef? We've often seen BD chefs discuss the menu directly with the guests. Eliminates any miscommunication. 

But Tzarina didn't want to do that. Lara wanted to do that. Just like Tzarina didn't want to go to the beach picnic. Lara wanted her to go to the beach picnic. Lara was determined to boss Tzarina around at every opportunity. Just like she was determined to boss Alesia around.

Problem is, Chief Stew isn't the boss of the Chef. Lara just thought she was, or wanted to be. If she didn't want to serve a seven course meal, then she should have gone to the guests and tried to talk them out of it. Tzarina was fine with it.

Tzarina's biggest mistake was not standing up to Lara and telling her to shove it because she was so desperate for Lara's approval and friendship. I agree she's far too needy which made the situations worse. She was never the instigator of those situations though.

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On 5/29/2025 at 10:54 AM, IntrovertRed said:

 

So are Harry and Bri not together anymore? I actually don't mind Harry. Bri was blah and quite far up Lara's ass. Bri was kinda shitty towards Tzarina over Lara when she was on WWHL, especially considering how Tzarina consoled Bri during her meltdown when she was doing cabins. That just turned me off Bri.

 

I get the impression (and there are a couple of articles in the media thread) that Harry and Bri are now just friends.  I thought it was telling that when Tzarina was consoling Bri that time, Tzarina stayed away from putting down Lara.  She just tried to build up Bri and not make things worse, which is what Lara does in the same situation.

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8 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Tzarina and Lara were both turds but at least Tzarina has talent.  Lara had no redeeming qualities. She couldn’t even take direction from captain Jason. All she did was play favorites and act like an ass. 
Tzarina should have stood up to her instead of being a weak pathetic needy woman.

Tzarina can make me dinner, yum.  Lara can clean my toilet.

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On 5/31/2025 at 6:17 PM, SemiCharmedLife said:

I get the impression (and there are a couple of articles in the media thread) that Harry and Bri are now just friends.  I thought it was telling that when Tzarina was consoling Bri that time, Tzarina stayed away from putting down Lara.  She just tried to build up Bri and not make things worse, which is what Lara does in the same situation.

They are not together. There is not a single photo of Harry on Bri's IG, for example. It seems she was from November to March in Australia. 

13 hours ago, PaperTree said:

Tzarina can make me dinner, yum.  Lara can clean my toilet.

Tzarina's food looked good, especially at the end.

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