AnimeMania May 17 Share May 17 (Season Finale) Days after the gala, Birdie, Catherine, Brett and Alice struggle to tie up loose ends as suspicions mount. Premiere Date: May 16, 2025 NBC 8pm Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/
possibilities May 17 Share May 17 I liked a lot about this episode. Even though I see the flaws, I liked this show more than I didn't, and I wish it was coming back. I know the ratings are crap, though, so I realize it's unlikely. I thought the scenes with the two women I have trouble telling apart-- Doug's mom and the one who loves her cat-- were interesting-- both the ones with the two of them together and the ones with cat-lover and Alice, and Doug's mom with Doug. I didn't recognize the guy who was at the bus stop when Catherine and her husband were there. Is he someone we are supposed to find significant? Birdie with her biokid was sweet. I think it takes a lot longer than a month to decompose a body. Human bones are much thicker and denser than chicken bones. The quilt would take a long time, too. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664309
Irlandesa May 17 Share May 17 15 minutes ago, possibilities said: I didn't recognize the guy who was at the bus stop when Catherine and her husband were there. Is he someone we are supposed to find significant? I thought he might be related to Catherine's husband's gambling problem. I still didn't like who was killed. I kind of wish they would have let the PI die. But this episode was better than the last one except for the stupid Alice and Brett stuff. Part of me is curious about where this show will go but part of me also knows that a second season, as is the norm with many shows like this, will likely just be wheels spinning. They were dumb to bury the body back near the garden. They should have taken it into the woods somewhere and buried it. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664317
possibilities May 17 Share May 17 I agree it was stupid to bury in the garden. But I tried to bury a cat in the woods years ago, and it was nearly impossible to dig at all. Too many tree roots. We finally scraped a little dirt away and then piled rocks over her body, making a mound. But yes-- right out in view of anyone who happened by, the garden was probably the worst place to bury, except for that it was probably the easiest soil to dig. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664373
seacliffsal May 17 Share May 17 Well, that's it then. All of the problems were due to Alice and her faulty 'detective' work. They did set up a second season with the Halloween scene, but I doubt there will be a second season. Even if there is though, I won't be back. I don't really care that much about the characters. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664586
Ms Lark Sunday at 08:27 AM Share Sunday at 08:27 AM Done. It was hard to get through to the end, but I was somewhat intrigued as t where it would go. Not in a good way, really. Not enough for a second season either. Thought it was kind of self-centered for the writers to end the show with a cliffhanger. Pretty clear it won't be renewed (moved to Friday death slot early on). I'd be willing to put money on that. If it goes to Peacock I'll still be surprised, but out of sight, out of mind. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664873
peachmangosteen Sunday at 01:27 PM Share Sunday at 01:27 PM On 5/16/2025 at 10:22 PM, possibilities said: I didn't recognize the guy who was at the bus stop when Catherine and her husband were there. Is he someone we are supposed to find significant? On 5/16/2025 at 10:41 PM, Irlandesa said: I thought he might be related to Catherine's husband's gambling problem. I believe it was the gas station guy that Catherine gave her bracelet to. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8664912
blackwing Monday at 06:41 PM Share Monday at 06:41 PM So months ago, Garden Lady accidentally shot Alice's dog because she thought it was a coyote or something. She asks Alice's MIL for help, saying she owed her, so MIL helps her bury the dog. MIL tells Garden Lady to keep the scarf, knowing that at some point Alice might see it and this gives MIL leverage over Garden Lady. Was that it? I lost track of who "owed" who and for what. But MIL kept this from Alice for months, so she is a huge beeyotch and a terrible person. On 5/17/2025 at 12:29 PM, seacliffsal said: Well, that's it then. All of the problems were due to Alice and her faulty 'detective' work. I think all of the problems were due to Alice's MIL and Garden Lady. Garden Lady killed Alice's dog. MIL helped cover it up. MIL knew that Alice had questions about her missing dog. Alice got another dog. MIL informed the landlord and said that as long as Alice had a dog, she would never have a grandchild. Alice accused MIL of killing the first dog. MIL knew exactly what happened to the dog and kept quiet. Alice was determined to hurt MIL so she and her friends stole the quilt. She texted MIL about the quilt, FIL showed up instead and accidentally died. So in a roundabout way, the death of her husband was MIL's fault. MIL knows that FIL wasn't at the cabin. I wonder if she thinks he left her. On 5/16/2025 at 9:22 PM, possibilities said: I didn't recognize the guy who was at the bus stop when Catherine and her husband were there. Is he someone we are supposed to find significant? On 5/18/2025 at 8:27 AM, peachmangosteen said: I believe it was the gas station guy that Catherine gave her bracelet to. Yes, there was a "filling station" patch on his shirt. So he knows something is up with Catherine being suspicious, and is probably going to try to blackmail her. Birdie and her son had a nice moment. Not sure what will happen with her and Joel. Brett's ex-wife dumped her husband, but Brett doesn't want to be with her. He is with Alice. At the end, she changes her mind about asking for full custody. Alice goes to police station, presumably to confess. Flashforward scene to the fall when we see Catherine, Brett and Birdie interrogating someone dressed in a costume. I would imagine it's either Alice, Garden Lady, or MIL. But don't think I really care. I don't know if this show will get new life on Peacock, but I don't think I would be back unless they make some major changes. The time jumps were by far the worst part of the show. I know the producers/writers probably thought they were being edgy or cool but it just ended up being confusing. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8666109
Absolom Monday at 07:00 PM Share Monday at 07:00 PM I checked and one of the creators has been executive producer on some quirky shows. I don't think he does "normal." The time shifts, the hiding of the time on objects, the message on the pumpkin at the end all probably appeal to him. I don't have any hope for improvement if it continues. Why they haven't just cancelled it is the real mystery for me. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8666121
tennisgurl Monday at 10:26 PM Share Monday at 10:26 PM That was actually better than I thought it would be, even with the cliffhanger. In the end, the mystery of Alice's dog was all an awful accident that was covered up by her mother in law. I wish that her father in law didn't die, its pretty awful that they're letting Alice's family think he just vanished, and now we know it was all over a big stupid misunderstanding. The scene with Birdie and her son was cute, I am curious as to where that would go with them, her cop boyfriend/his step-dad and mom. Sticking the body in the garden seems like a terrible idea. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8666263
blackwing Tuesday at 01:47 PM Share Tuesday at 01:47 PM Whatever happened to the spoiled kid from the first episode that she gave the F to? He threatened her and implied that he killed her dog? I don't think we ever saw him again after the first few episodes. As I said last week or the week before, it seems each episode is written by different writers. There should have been better continuity with some of the minor plot elements. I guess the kid was just a red herring, but still. When the gang in the flashforward decided to move Keith's body because the garden was being dug up by developers, they only found a shoe. They said "where is the rest of him". Someone had moved the body. Then the PI came out of the bushes and demanded money for silence. Then the PI had a heart attack. So where was Keith's body? I think I missed something, did the PI move it all by himself? Did he tell them where it was before he had the heart attack? I know the gang decided to put Keith in the compost bin, which is stupid, because there is absolutely no way the body would have completely decomposed like that. What about bones? Are we to believe that his body decomposed and then was used in the next season's garden? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8666718
possibilities Tuesday at 04:49 PM Share Tuesday at 04:49 PM They said the body had been in the guy's freezer. I don't see any reason why he couldn't have moved it himself. They debated whether to leave it there, or move it, after his heart attack. I think they should have left it there-- it would have made the dead guy look like he was the murderer. But they decided to revive him, so I guess at that point they didn't want to leave any evidence in his hands. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153592-s01e13-bad-seeds/#findComment-8666847
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