S09.E14: The Ex Files

[Salacious Kitty]

Lindsay hosts a very surprising anniversary celebration; things get tense as Jesse blames issues with Lexi on another housemate. 

Airs 05/14/2025

Edited May 15 by Salacious Kitty

[b2H]

For Heaven’s sake, Jesse does deserve to have a life, but if Lexi doesn’t trust him, set him free and let him live his life.  Lexi is still hanging out with mom and sister.  It’s not like she is all that active herself (out at a bar with mom at 4am is not normal).
Toegate was a little much, but a manicure in NYC at 9pm in the summer?  Show the receipts and put this dumb thing away.

And now that we know that Lindsey doesn’t have quite the special life she advertised on Instagram, who’s the loser now?

ETA: she ditched her friend Bailey and got her tossed from the show.  She is ten or more years younger than everyone else in the house.  I am betting she is a one-season wonder.  She waited for the cameras to shut this down.

Edited May 15 by b2H

[snarts]

Convinced this Jesse/Lexi thing was a complete showmance. I've long thought it was strategic on Jesse's side (after seeing all.the publicity West got last season) but the last weekend staged breakup was proof enough for me that Lexi was just playing her part as well. 

Lindsay's trying way to hard to show everyone how happy she is. You got knocked up by a rich dude, it's not exactly a Disney fairy tail ending! 

Carl doesn't look well. Way too thin, almost gaunt & his skin is starting to look bad. Hope he's ok. 

Edited May 15 by snarts
Carl

[b2H]

6 minutes ago, snarts said:

Lindsay's trying way to hard to show everyone how happy she is.

And here we go again.  Behold, she protesteth too much.  Carl is shutting it down.

[Thumper]

I’m so sick of Lindsay.  

[Marley]

Carl is a stupid dbag. Lindsay can post whatever she wants. He's the loser always trying to act like there's more to it. He's still a toxic jerk.

[ZettaK]

Lexi and Jessie broke up (shocker, not!), but the romance was not fake. Lexi, her sister, and her mother were really angry at him on Bravo's Watch What Happens Live twice (her mother said she never liked him), and off the show. I don't doubt he felt flattered dating a model, and she thought she could solidify her position on the show. They managed to dominate the show this season.

Nobody celebrates a one year anniversary of a breakup, or has long IG posts about it. This is crazy. Lindsay is not as happy as she claimed anyway, because she will say she wouldn't be with her bf if not pregnant according to the previews of next week's episode.

It was ironic Paige said her relationship to Craig was fine.

 It was an Imrul free weekend last week, but here he is again....He has no connection to the group. He brought random women to the house, and he didn't really connect with them in the city.

Edited May 15 by ZettaK

[Back Atcha]

4 hours ago, snarts said:

Lindsay's trying way to hard to show everyone how happy she is. You got knocked up by a rich dude, it's not exactly a Disney fairy tail ending! 

I'd say this was her own private/planned pregnancy.  If her plan was to HAVE THE BABY on the show, I hope it's over and done with and she can go on her cruel way.  We don't have to see her "real personality" around a baby.

[Mindthinkr]

This show is starting to fizzle out like an open can of Loverboy on the table from the night before. 
 

All these characters are too obsessed with their images and other peoples opinions about them. 

[Thumper]

To me, the dynamic is so weird.  First, the women are all on Lexi’s side, encouraging and supporting her.  Then, they all run up to Jessie’s room and have a “run tell dat” conversation with him, acting all supportive.  🤷‍♀️🙄

Since I only half listen, I’m not sure what it’s all about.  Jessie is a big over-flirt (laying on top of Ciara on the pool float one time?!), which drives me crazy, but I tend to believe him more.  I could be wrong! 
 

 

[b2H]

I think at one point he even showed the coven that he did in fact have a manicure.  There was some comment about his cuticle in the run tell dat session.  Was on the phone but they did look at his nails at one point.

[Passing Strange]

I think Amanda definitely deserves a "Founder and CEO of what?!" The way she explained it in an earlier episode, the deal with South Moon Under sounds like the swim suits are a white label product. Nothing wrong with that, but she's not actually designing or distributing. If she has a company, it's likely for accounting purposes, and there's not a lot of day-to-day stuff for her to do. Lexi looks to have a similar arrangement with a lingerie line.

We have Amanda to thank for much of the Jessie and Lexi puppy love idiocy we've endured this season. She could have done the adult thing in the beginning and told Jessie to talk to Lexi, rather than tattling. The second-hand information from all the housemates, plus Jessie's perfunctory relationship with the truth,  caused a lot of miscommunication. And this episode Paige played Second Shit Stirrer, lying that Jessie didn't say that Ciara was part of the reason for the breakup.

Neither Lindsay nor Carl has completely moved on. She's still pissed at being dumped on camera and he can't seem to figure out that he's still the villain, not the victim. I really think that all Carl would have to do is take responsibility for the bad execution of a good decision, and she'd stop trolling him.

[Marley]

Paige lied for Jesse it was annoying.

Ciara annoys me a bit. She would totally date Jesse. She has the worst taste in men.

Lexi & her family can go away now. They are not interesting to me.

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, Thumper said:

To me, the dynamic is so weird.  First, the women are all on Lexi’s side, encouraging and supporting her.  Then, they all run up to Jessie’s room and have a “run tell dat” conversation with him, acting all supportive.  🤷‍♀️🙄

 

 

The girls are two faced.  And they were pretending to be on Lexi’s side to get the gossip.

And she didn’t get the Ick, that’s Amanda saying that.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Marley said:

Paige lied for Jesse it was annoying.

Ciara annoys me a bit. She would totally date Jesse. She has the worst taste in men.

Lexi & her family can go away now. They are not interesting to me.

She didn’t lie, he didn’t say that they talked about Ciara on the patio, he said she brought it up the day before or whenever.

Lexi is mad that she’s not part of the stupid girl clique so she’s blaming Jesse, saying he kept her from the girls.  And being besties with Ciara- omg that would never happen Lexi!  I feel like she doesn’t get that.

 

This whole season is over?  It was only about Jesse and Lexi.  
 

[Marley]

I thought Paige said Jesse didn't bring up Ciara in the bedroom when they were talking but he did.

Idk it's all a blur the episode was boring as hell & I have never cared about this dumb ass Jessi Lexi bs anyways lol.

Jesse & West were on WWHL & they came off as typical dbags. I might be over this show.

[dancingdreamer]

Please don't  invite a) Lexi and b) Lindsay  back to this show. Lexi told Jessie  she was insecure,  I remember  that, and she laid out the rules. I preferred  happy cancer free Jessie. I totally  believe Lexi quizzed Jessie  over him and Cierra going to the US open. Jessie's  natural  behavior  is to be a flirt. That's part of his DNA. Good or bad, I  still don't  mind him.

Lindsay  loves pouring  salt on a wound,  hence the book she wrote on Instagram. Carl had to say something  in return, but Lindsay  isn't as happy  imho as she makes out.

Amanda,  congratulations.! 

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Thumper said:

To me, the dynamic is so weird.  First, the women are all on Lexi’s side, encouraging and supporting her.  Then, they all run up to Jessie’s room and have a “run tell dat” conversation with him, acting all supportive.  

That felt real lol. I'd probably do that, too.

3 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

Neither Lindsay nor Carl has completely moved on. She's still pissed at being dumped on camera and he can't seem to figure out that he's still the villain, not the victim. I really think that all Carl would have to do is take responsibility for the bad execution of a good decision, and she'd stop trolling him.

Thank you. I don't even really see the problem with Lindsay posting that tbh. As much as he wants to say she hasn't moved on, if he's that upset over her celebrating being away from him then he hasn't moved on either.

1 hour ago, Marley said:

Jesse & West were on WWHL & they came off as typical dbags. I might be over this show.

If the rumors that Lindsay, Paige, and Amanda might move to another show while Jesse and West headline Summer House I likely won't be watching Summer House.

Edited May 15 by peachmangosteen

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

 

If the rumors that Lindsay, Paige, and Amanda might move to another show while Jesse and West headline Summer House I likely won't be watching Summer House.

I won’t be watching either show.

[Back Atcha]

5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I really think that all Carl would have to do is take responsibility for the bad execution of a good decision, and she'd stop trolling him.

I felt he has taken responsibility and apologized to many...over and over again. It's difficult to see him on TV, trying to carry on--against a pissed-off woman. There was no way Carl (or probably any man...or anyone) is going to win against Lindsay.  Carl was a broken person and Lindsay is too selfish and aggressive for someone who needs love, support, and NURTURING.  It may have been a "last minute" cancellation, but I would worry about Carl if he had continued just to save face...no matter who's.  She's NEVER going to let this go.

5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

If the rumors that Lindsay, Paige, and Amanda might move to another show while Jesse and West headline Summer House I likely won't be watching Summer House.

I won't watch anything with Lindsay and I hope we've seen the last of Lexi.  Her early beauty and success--and her family's "support/adoration/togetherness" have created a very young  female who thinks everything is for her, with her, and her way.  She needs to start exercising some caution.  The next guy she dumps might not be so passive.

[Marley]

Carl uses things he goes through as an excuse to treat ppl like shit. It's always something. Before it was his parents divorce. It'll always be something. I think he gets off on hurting women. To me he's barely any different then S1 Carl. He just hides his asshole-ness better because he's sober.

[bosawks]

Linds asking Imrul if he wants to make a weird ass speech at this ridiculous dinner is why I don't want to ever give her up.

[Passing Strange]

22 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

I felt he has taken responsibility and apologized to many...over and over again. It's difficult to see him on TV, trying to carry on--against a pissed-off woman. There was no way Carl (or probably any man...or anyone) is going to win against Lindsay.  Carl was a broken person and Lindsay is too selfish and aggressive for someone who needs love, support, and NURTURING.  It may have been a "last minute" cancellation, but I would worry about Carl if he had continued just to save face...no matter who's.  She's NEVER going to let this go.

I don't follow these people in the media all that much, so I may have missed something, but I think he's pretty much stuck to saying he could have done better and he's sorry he hurt Lindsay. Although it might be too late now, a better approach would have been, "I apologize for saying one thing to your face while bad-mouthing you to others, then saying you weren't blindsided. And also for arranging to break up on camera." Yes, Lindsay isn't a good partner for someone who needs love, support, and nurturing; she's never pretended to be anything but who she is. I think Carl was right to end the relationship, just not in the way he did it. In past relationships, we saw him gaslight Lauren Wirkus and Lindsay herself; he was cruel and ugly to Jules Daoud. I think his own selfishness has caught up with him, and there are finally some consequences.

[snarts]

I think Carl & Lindsay are both flawed & they shared equally in the demise of their relationship. They would both agree that they are better off apart so Carl was smart to end it. Did he handle it in the best way? No, but then again, there's really no way to end engagement without hurt feelings.

IMHO, Carl has been extremely gracious post-break. He actually does seem happy for her with the baby news.

Meanwhile, Lindsay continues to take every opportunity to slam & belittle him. Some think that's deserved but to me it shows way more about her character than his. It's a year later! The fact she's still so fixated on it screams that she's nowhere near as happy as she's claiming to be. 

I think she desperately wants the Mrs. title & knows this Turner guy has no interest in marrying her.

Edited May 17 by snarts

[peachmangosteen]

The way Carl reacted to Lindsay's post just further proves to me how much he's trying to cultivate a public image rather than just be real. Although, I suppose that's true of most/all of them.

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, snarts said:

Meanwhile, Lindsay continues to take every opportunity to slam & belittle him. Some think that's deserved but to me it shows way more about her character than his. It's a year later! The fact she's still so fixated on it screams that she's nowhere near as happy as she's claiming to be.

That was the only Lindsay I saw LONG before any break-up.  She's a mean and cruel person with high expectations of everyone.  Her mistreatment, debasement, critiques of Carl were difficult to watch--even tho' they were infrequent.  One can IMAGINE what she's like offscreen. Her persona/character is NOT something I want to watch on television.   Lexi is a little bitch-in-training.   I suppose these characters are considered "good TV."

[Passing Strange]

On 5/17/2025 at 9:45 AM, snarts said:

Did he handle it in the best way? No, but then again, there's really no way to end engagement without hurt feelings.

I agree. What bothers me is that Carl made the choice to do this on camera. It didn't just happen; it wasn't spur of the moment. He actively arranged it. He'd broken up with Lindsay before without humiliating her, and the dust settled quickly. So he knew his options. To me, picking the one he did was cruel.

I have the same issue with Lexi, although not to the same degree. It was the last weekend, run out the clock. She could have said this was the last weekend they were all going to be together, let's concentrate on having fun with our friends instead of each other. Then break his heart on Monday. Except, while I don't think this was a showmance, I do think it was an opportunistic attraction, and after he milks it a bit, he'll be fine.

On 5/17/2025 at 9:50 AM, peachmangosteen said:

The way Carl reacted to Lindsay's post just further proves to me how much he's trying to cultivate a public image rather than just be real. Although, I suppose that's true of most/all of them.

Based on how he and some of the others reacted, I figured the post would include digs at Carl. It didn't. She said the day changed her life and was difficult, humiliating & traumatic. Then she went on to list the good things that had happened afterward. That was it. I'm not sure how Carl saw that as not reality or coming from a deep, dark place, but do what you gotta do, I guess.

Edited May 18 by Passing Strange