S07.E21: Tell All, Part 2

[TwirlyGirly]

In part two of the ultimate Tell All event, we find out the truth about why Joey almost missed his flight. Veah and Adnan clash over religion, Brian drops a bombshell about Ingrid, and a heated Niles walks off. Later, a fight breaks out backstage.

 

➡️Air date: 1/19/2025

 

*Note from TwirlyGirly:

Yes, friends, there's going to be a Part 3 and who knows how many parts after that TLC plans to delight torture us with, as 90 Day Fiancé Season 11 doesn't begin until 2/16/2025. 

I'll post the 90 Day Fiancé Season 11 weekly episode topics and a Season 11 Live Chat topic just as soon as TLC posts the S11.E01 info.

 

CHEAT SHEET 

Season 7 Couples: Names and Locations

(Can't remember who's who? See the topic for S07.E01: Great Expectations for photos of each couple)

Tigerlily, (Texas) & Adnan, (Jordan) 

Rayne, (New Mexico) & Chidi, (Nigeria) 

Loren, (Nevada) & Faith, (Philippines)

Niles, (Alabama) & Matilda, (Ghana) 

Joe, (Florida) & Magda, (Poland) 

Brian, (Illinois) & Ingrid, (Brazil) 

Veah, (Florida) & Sunny (South Africa)

Vanja, (Florida) & Božo, (Croatia)

[Kath94]

VAnja (Florida) & Božo (Croatia) & Josko (Also Croatia)

[Shrek]

Nothing Brian can say would get me to see him in a good light & I'm sure he's going to tell some sob story that ends in woe is me, I'm in a wheelchair & that's why she dumped me. Don't care & won't care.

[surfgirl]

I am appalled and disgusted that Shawn and TLC allowed that little twerp, Adnoid, to harass, mock, bait, and laugh at Niles, a man who is autistic. THIS is what TLC thinks is appropriate behavior? Firstly,  Shawn should have shut that garbage down immediately and then asked security to remove Adnoid when he started taunting Niles. Production should have shut that behavior down immediately too. Adnoid should have been removed and not paid for his appearance, but then again, theyve allowed Grangela to threaten and harass other Twll Nothing participantsso why should I be surprised? And yet I am because TLC used a man with autism and allowed another participant to make fun of him and bait him, even when he saw how upset Niles was becoming. And while we're on the subject, Tigeridiot is as bad as her man baby husband because she sat there like the brainless dingdong she is, saying and doing nothing. Shame on both of them and TLC. At this point, given what I've seen so far, if Adnoid steals all her money and the kid, I'd just think 'karma is a bitch, aint it?'

BTW, we are all complicit in this horrible behavior because we continue to watch. I will not be watching 90 Days S11, at least I can boycott that.

Edited Sunday at 07:56 AM by surfgirl

[surfgirl]

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Generally speaking yes, the U.S.A. does recognize marriages performed in another country but weirdly different states have different rules so he would need to check the law in his state.

This is a good point because there are usually two types of marriages in most Afrucan countries: a traditional marriage, and a church marriage, and Niles had a traditional marriage. While traditional marriage is binding in most if nit all African countries where practiced, it is usually the church marriage that is the legal marriage, so Niles may have to get legally married too, not sure but it's a good point.

ETA: According to Google, a traditional marriage in Ghana is legal in the USA so long as it has been registered locally. Let's hope Mr. Arc made sure it was registered because that was never mentioned.

Edited Monday at 05:30 PM by surfgirl

[Chalby]

On 1/15/2025 at 12:38 PM, Shrek said:

Nothing Brian can say would get me to see him in a good light & I'm sure he's going to tell some sob story that ends in woe is me, I'm in a wheelchair & that's why she dumped me. Don't care & won't care.

For someone trying to pretend he's mature, and wants to share his experiences so others will learn, is a joke.

Brian is still using the same old tired routine over and over to pick up or entrap women. He'll be the 1st to cry we're judging him based upon our anti-disability prejudice. 

in reality, it's actually all (present and past) women uniting against chauvinistic, and mentally abusive, Brian.

Edited Yest. at 08:35 AM by Chalby

[Chalby]

On 1/18/2025 at 8:20 PM, surfgirl said:

I am appalled and disgusted that Shawn and TLC allowed that little twerp, Adnoid, to harass, mock, bait, and laugh at Niles, a man who is autistic. THIS is what TLC thinks is appropriate behavior? Firstly,  Shawn should have shut that garbage down immediately and then asked security to remove Adnoid when he started taunting Niles. Production should have shut that behavior down immediately too.

Shawn should be stepping up and following basic protocol, but she never has.

She needs to go given she can't control anyone: Angela, Ed, Jesse, Adnan, Natalie, loren etc. She is useless when it comes to holding people accountable for what we all see. 

She should have stepped in when Niles threatened "to break someone's face" and she should have shut Adnan down the minute he interrupted Niles tell all segment.

This wasn't about Adnan, but she allowed it to be.

Who instructed these losers to behave this way?

I didn't finish part 2 because I'm embarrassed to be a part of this.

Edited Monday at 09:14 PM by Chalby
Trying to remember all the losers Shawn has never shut down

[Stuckathome]

Either Adnan really is an abusive psycho or he did a hell of a job playing one for the cameras. It was like watching a Temu James Bond villain with the crazy cackle and constant weird comments. He thinks he is SO superior to everyone. Same for his braindead wife. She is the epitome of a mean girl. I did like when he shut Vanya down. I think it was less to do with her gender and just the fact that she is annoying AF. The way he talked to her was super creepy when he said something like “look at me!! Wohoo. You life to get attention don’t you?” 
 

Temu Jason Biggs aka Joey is smart enough to keep his mouth shut, sit back and watch the circus. As a result he is coming across as the most sensible of all of them. Impressed he has resisted the pressure to propose. 
 

Brian is disgusting and I felt second hand embarrassment for his daughter. Didn’t he have any friends who could appear? What grown woman wants to discuss her dads sex  life?
 

[lilysmom]

1 hour ago, Chalby said:

Shawn should be stepping up and following basic protocol, but she never has.

She needs to go given she can't control anyone: Angela, Ed, Jesse, Adnan, Natalie, loren etc. She is useless when it comes to holding people accountable for what we all see. 

She should have stepped in when Niles threatened "to break someone's face" and she should have shut Adnan down the minute he interrupted Niles tell all segment.

This wasn't about Adnan, but she allowed it to be.

Who instructed these losers to behave this way?

I didn't finish part 2 because I'm embarrassed to be a part of this.

I absolutely agree with your comment that Niles should have been shut down or sent off set when he threatened Adnan, too. I think anyone who threatens bodily harm to another person should be removed.

[AR Traveler]

I too feel complicit in watching grown men (?) go all He-Man with each other.  I have to say Joey surprised me by not acting like a jerk.  He's a lunkhead, but I don't see him as a bad guy in the same mold as Adnoid, Loren, and Brian.  

I also agree that threatening harm should mean immediate expulsion.  I've always thought that Angela should have been thrown out and fired when she raced across the stage at one of her Tells to confront somebody (Rachel?  I  remember Jenny, too?).  This crop looks and acts even crazier than they did on the show itself. 

Ingrid and Matilda are impressing me the most on the women's side.  I like Faith but wish she could give up Loren like a bad habit, and more to the point, get some self-esteem so she doesn't settle.  Settling for Loren is like settling for Death Valley-you can't get lower.  I have few words for mean girl Tiger Lily and Vanja, dressed like a burlesque costume factory exploded.

As for Tiger's clothing line, I actually liked one of the simple beige dresses (but not at the tune of $100).  It looked like something I would wear to my son's wedding ("wear beige and shut up" and all that).  But my overall impression was either going for the Dust Bowl look, or 1001 uses for old potato sacks.  And mighty expensive sacks at that.

[Chalby]

10 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Either Adnan really is an abusive psycho or he did a hell of a job playing one for the cameras.

No one is that good an actor without some sort of personal experience to draw from.

Adnan's misogyny shines like a beacon, and Tigerlily is there for it. After all, EVERYONE is jealous of Tigerlily and him. (Ugh! He's so immature for a man who's 23)?

When Adnan speaks to Vanya, his face and mannerisms reflect his absolute distaste. He views the majority of women as excrement on the sole of his shoe. The disgust on his face is something I hope he learns how and when to edit.

[surfgirl]

They know they are reviled bc they've turned off allcommebts on both their IG accounts. They are bulkys and creeps and I hope karma finds them.

[lu1535]

I know that idiot Adnan was goading Niles but Niles' reaction really made me uncomfortable. His hands were in tight fists, the grimacing, the breathing, the wide eyes - all that really frightened me and what could come next. Matilda better never piss him off. 😬

 

[surfgirl]

3 hours ago, lu1535 said:

I know that idiot Adnan was goading Niles but Niles' reaction really made me uncomfortable. His hands were in tight fists, the grimacing, the breathing, the wide eyes - all that really frightened me and what could come next. Matilda better never piss him off. 😬

 

Yes, because he is autistic and people on the spectrum react to stress and confrontation differently than you do. He was trying very hard to not lose it, and Adnoid knew that and kept goading him. What I saw was a cast member and the entire TLC production team allowing one person to bully an autistic cast member so he would explode on stage. That to me is unforgivable on the part of the cast member and his complicit wife, and the host, and the entire production team.

[Natalie68]

On 1/18/2025 at 8:20 PM, surfgirl said:

I am appalled and disgusted that Shawn and TLC allowed that little twerp, Adnoid, to harass, mock, bait, and laugh at Niles, a man who is autistic. THIS is what TLC thinks is appropriate behavior? Firstly,  Shawn should have shut that garbage down immediately and then asked security to remove Adnoid when he started taunting Niles. Production should have shut that behavior down immediately too. Adnoid should have been removed and not paid for his appearance, but then again, theyve allowed Grangela to threaten and harass other Twll Nothing participantsso why should I be surprised? And yet I am because TLC used a man with autism and allowed another participant to make fun of him and bait him, even when he saw how upset Niles was becoming. And while we're on the subject, Tigeridiot is as bad as her man baby husband because she sat there like the brainless dingdong she is, saying and doing nothing. Shame on both of them and TLC. At this point, given what I've seen so far, if Adnoid steals all her money and the kid, I'd just think 'karma is a bitch, aint it?'

BTW, we are all complicit in this horrible behavior because we continue to watch. I will not be watching 90 Days S11, at least I can boycott that.

That was hard to watch.  SOMEONE needed to intervene.  Tigerbeat is just as nasty as he is. The discussion about Niles and his finances was super shitty.

[1011101010001]

Apparently Niles now has a government job and it’s not a good look to have such a short fuse 

[lilmarysunshine]

I don’t know what has changed about Adnan’s appearance but he is noticeably less attractive than he was during the season. There is something about his mouth and his face that just comes across as gross. And I think he has gained some weight. (I never thought he was a great looker but he looks worse in the studio, for sure. He already looks older than 23 or 24, says the mother of a 23 year old young man.) And Tigerlilly looks rough, too, and it is not just postpartum stuff. For someone with her own glam squad, her “hair” and makeup look terrible.

Brian is just a disgusting man and it has zip to do with his disability except him throwing all of that medical/sexual stuff in her face right away was beyond the pale. I don’t blame Ingrid for passing on what he offered. 

[Stuckathome]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

 

I don’t know what has changed about Adnan’s appearance but he is noticeably less attractive than he was during the season.

 

Agree. And I would say based on physical appearance, no way he is a day under 30….but then the maturity lines up with his stated age. Tiger lily is a mean girl and deserves whatever he dishes out. She came across as very medicated. 
 

please don’t add them to the HEA cast