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I have no problem saying that Zack Snyder is a gifted cinematographer. His cinematography is on par with the director of latest Dune movie.  However, his storytelling skills...? Hmmm...

This could be fantastic.  This could also be just another Army of the Dead.

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Netflix’s ‘Rebel Moon’ Arrives With Disastrous Review Scores
Paul Tassi    Dec 15, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/12/15/netflixs-rebel-moon-arrives-with-disastrous-review-scores/?sh=2177fef84434 

Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon: First Reactions Released Online
By KOFI OUTLAW - December 14, 2023 
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/rebel-moon-first-reactions-reviews-zack-snyder/

Rebel Moon First Reactions Are Here: Is Zack Snyder’s New Movie Any Good?
By John Saavedra    December 14, 2023
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/rebel-moon-first-reactions/

Rebel Moon Movie Reviews: Critics Share Mixed First Reactions
By Richard Nebens   December 14, 2023
https://thedirect.com/article/rebel-moon-movie-reviews-critics

Rebel Moon review: Zack Snyder's new space opera is 'gushing Star Wars fan fiction'
By Nicholas Barber   Dec 15, 2023
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20231215-rebel-moon-review-zack-snyders-new-space-opera-is-gushing-star-wars-fan-fiction

Rebel Moon – Part One: A Child of Fire Review
BY HANNA INES FLINT    DEC 15, 2023
https://www.ign.com/articles/rebel-moon-part-one-review-netflix-zack-snyder 

'Rebel Moon - Part One: A Child of Fire' review: Zack Snyder's Star Wars ripoff is a trap
By Kristy Puchko  December 15, 2023
https://mashable.com/article/rebel-moon-part-one-review

Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon Part One is just a surface-level, sketchy Star Wars
By Kyle Wilson  Dec 15, 2023 
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/24001958/rebel-moon-part-one-child-of-fire-review-zack-snyder-star-wars

‘Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire’ Review: Zack Snyder’s Sci-Fi Epic Knocks Off ‘Star Wars’ and a Dozen Other Sources
By Owen Gleiberman   Dec 15, 2023
https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/rebel-moon-part-one-a-child-of-fire-review-zack-snyder-sofia-boutella-1235837646/ 

REBEL MOON’: Netflix’s new gem !
BY JEREMY    18 DECEMBER 2023
https://soundsofseries.com/en/rebel-moon-netflixs-new-gem/ 

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My husband and I watched this tonight. We were not impressed. The two hours felt like 57 and as my husband commented, “This is all just the recruitment phase.” Townspeople: We need an army to save us. Kora and Farmer Guy: We’ll go round them up. Then they return with 4 other people and trample their cash crops along the way. 
Apparently Irish people are not thrilled with Charlie Hunnan’s accent. I saw a headline describing it as “space Belfast”. 

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It wasn’t terrible, we’ve just seen it all before. A little Star Wars, a little Magnificent Seven/Seven Samurai, at one point it was clear little Kona was baby Gamorra.  I always feel Snyder’s movies wouldn’t be so long if he didn’t insist on so many slo-mo scenes, that really don’t add to the movie. I’m not invested in the farmers and don’t care about the Empire, I mean Motherworld. 

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I had high hopes for this, based on the trailers .. but apparently Zack Snyder can't - or won't -  learn from his mistakes.  So, another disappointing Snyder movie. 
There was a feeling, at the start of the movie, that the reviews may have been excessively harsh.  But the possibility of a  satisfying sci-fi story began to diminish as the movie went on, bogged down with bloated exposition-heavy backstories  and fetch-quests for team members. 
By the end, I was no longer enjoying the ride and felt pretty meh about the whole thing.

The twist near the end was a bit of a surprise.  But even that couldn't redeem the failure to let the dead remain dead (and evil-admiral-guy should have been missing some teeth). 

The extra nail in the coffin is the promotional material:  including talk of an upcoming Snyder-Cut for a movie directed by Zack Snyder with no studio constraints
Also not helping: previews of Part 2, where the meek farming villagers are being trained for hand-to-hand combat .. against a enemy who has the ability to blast them to dust from low orbit.  Gah

There were some pretty scenes, though. 

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This wasn't as bad critics said but it wasn't very good either. Disappointing from a film I had high hopes for based on everything I had seen until recently and on Synder's previous film with Netflix, Army of the Deadm

Uninteresting and unoriginal characters and stories. Tons of unnecessary CGI which is par for the course with Zak Synder. The most interesting character was Anthony Hopkins robot and we barely see him. I life Sofia Boutella but this was a charisma free performance. The writing did her no favors though.

For a two-hour plus movie, it doesn't feel as long as recent franchise movies but there's nonsense of urgency on the recruitment scenes. The story would be more interesting if they were going off-planet.

Fun the see thetwo actors whom played Daario in Game of Thrones interact and Skrein is one of the better parts of this film but bringing him.back from the dead reeks of Agent Smith all over again and is a bad move.

One of the things that bothered me the most was the complete lack of comedy in this movie. Killers of the Flower Moon is based on a true story and is about a very serious subject matter yet has a lot of humor in it. If Martin Scorsese can bring humor to Killers of the Flower Moon, then why does Zak Synder refuse to bring any to Rebel Moon? This oviedo felt like it was written by a joyless fanboy who ripped off much better sci-fi and fantasy movies.

I also agree...why don't we get this director's cut now when they released the film on Netflix? I thought this was supposed to be an adult sci-fi movie. Were they looking to sell toys?

Having watched the trailer to the second and final film (to a series that looks like it should have been a trilogy) and it looks like it's going to repeat all the mistakes of the first film. That's what happens when bad films are shot together. 

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‘Rebel Moon’ Tops Netflix Charts—But Critics Pan Zack Snyder’s Massive Franchise Ambitions
Conor Murray   Dec 28, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/12/28/rebel-moon-tops-netflix-charts-but-critics-pan-zack-snyders-massive-franchise-ambitions/?sh=107b06cb4a6f 

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TOPLINE Superhero film director Zack Snyder’s film “Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire” is No. 1 on Netflix’s film charts this week, but critics have hammered the film, which has just a 25% score on Rotten Tomatoes, partly because of Snyder’s ambitions to turn the poorly received film into a massive franchise.
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The film’s second part is set to debut in April, and Snyder plans to release R-rated extended cuts for both films and has expressed interest in producing a “trilogy of sequels.”

Synder said the “Rebel Moon” franchise will also include an animated spinoff series, a comic book series, a narrative podcast, and a “ridiculous scale” role playing video game, though some of these projects are reportedly in early development.
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Some critics mentioned Snyder’s plans for a massive franchise as a detriment to the first “Rebel Moon” film. In a one-star review, Washington Post critic Lucas Trevor called the film an “ambitious failure,” criticizing its focus on “setting up what you might call the extended Rebel Moon-iverse instead of telling a compelling (or coherent) story.” Trevor said the setup for the second part causes “Rebel Moon — Part One” to lack an emotional payoff. Louise Griffin, a critic for UK outlet Radio Times, said Snyder “prematurely” declared “Rebel Moon” a franchise and criticized the upcoming director’s cuts as “a lot, for a rather mediocre story.” Vulture critic Bilge Ebiri called the first part of “Rebel Moon” the latest in a “pandemic of films that have been split in half and thus feel like all premise and no payoff,” drawing unfavorable comparisons to the “Star Wars” franchise. Kofi Outlaw, a critic for ComicBook.com, said “Rebel Moon — Part One” feels like a “flashy but hollow advertisement for the larger multimedia IP that will follow,” criticizing the characters as “initial sketches” instead of developed characters the audience can connect with. Slate Magazine critic Jake Cole criticized the “absurdity” of the “Rebel Moon” film series’ release strategy, stating: “Not only is this blockbuster behemoth merely the first installment of a two-part film… it’s a truncated version of its maker’s substantially longer preferred cut, which makes the film two-thirds of one-half of a story.”


Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon Is a Visionary Slog
By Bilge Ebiri     Dec. 22, 2023
https://www.vulture.com/article/movie-review-netflixs-rebel-moon-part-one-a-child-of-fire.html 

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Crumbling under the weight of its own visionary grandiosity, Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon is a series of amazing-looking sets and costumes and effects looking for a story, characters, emotion — really, anything that might raise the pulse. Maybe part of that is due to the fact that this, like so many other movies nowadays, is a Part One — subtitled A Child of Fire, which could mean that the real fireworks will come in the next installment. But the film’s constant missed opportunities suggest otherwise, as it lumbers from uninspiring set piece to uninspiring set piece with little drama, charm, or personality.


ETA: Currently, Rotten Tomatoes scores are 24% (critics) and 61% (audience), and Metacritic scores are 32 (critics) and 5.8 (audience). 

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On 12/30/2023 at 1:58 PM, benteen said:

One of the things that bothered me the most was the complete lack of comedy in this movie.

Agreed. It was pretty bland, and I think part of the reason was that none of the characters were given any charisma. Even Charlie Hunnam, who was supposed to be a total scoundrel was just kind of there. Maybe he was too busy choking on his Irish accent.

I was excited for this movie based on the premise, but it didn't deliver. Everything about it was boring. And the final battle drove me crazy! Why did they give the love interest a weapon and ask him to murder Sofia Boutella? Why did they need him to do it? Why could they not just do it themselves? That was some bush league Bond villain plotting right there. 

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Rebel Moon got 1 nomination for 2024 Make-Up Artists & Hair Stylists Guild Awards...

Nominations Announced for 11th Annual Guild Awards
IATSE Local 706    January 2, 2024
https://local706.org/nominations-for-11th-annual-guild-awards/ 

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The Make-Up Artists & Hair Stylists Guild has announced nominations for the 2024 MUAHS Guild Awards. Winners will be honored at the awards gala, presented by Ardell, on Sunday, February 18, 2024 at Fairmont Century Plaza, Los Angeles, CA. The MUAHS Awards represent a spectrum of outstanding achievements in 23 categories of make-up and hair styling artistry in motion pictures, television, commercials, music videos and live theater. The announcement was made by Julie Socash, IATSE Local 706 President.
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FEATURE-LENGTH MOTION PICTURE:
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3. Best Special Make-up Effects

Golda       
Karen Hartley Thomas, Suzi Battersby

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Alexei Dmitriew, Lindsay MacGowen, Shane Mahan, Scott Stoddard

Maestro
Kazu Hiro, Siân Grigg, Duncan Jarman, Mike Mekash

Poor Things
Nadia Stacey, Mark Coulier

Rebel Moon: Part One – A Child of Fire
Ozzy Alvarez, Justin Raleigh, Kelsey Berk, Jonathan Shroyer

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Well...that was certainly a Zach Snyder production. Zach Snyder has a great eye for visual storytelling and his movies tend to look really good (even with his constant use of pointless slow motion) but his stories and characters tend to be so bland and lifeless, they spout dull dialogue that he seems to think his profound instead of talking like actual people and his plots are incredibly standard, all style over substance. This one might be his most Snyder film yet. Great visuals for the most part, but the story and characters were dull as dirt. I really did want to like this, I wanted to think the critics were too harsh, but no, they were totally right. I found this honestly hard to finish, I was so bored. 

The characters were so boring, the fight against the Evil Empire was so generic, I did not care even a tiny bit about these characters or what was going on, which was too bad because on paper these characters and this universe had a lot going for them, but it was all such a clear ripoff of better stories. I can watch anything Star Wars related or Seven Samurai or literally any space opera ever instead of this sorry copy. The lack of any kind of humor really did help make this feel so bland, I don't need a million quips a second, but there was not even one single funny moment of any kind, it make this so dull. Even famously serious Christopher Noland movies will usually have some funny quips or bits to lighten the mood or add some fun character beats, but here everyone is so serious all of them time, its so BORING.  

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Rebel Moon got 2 nominations for 2024 Costume Designers Guild Awards... 

Costume Designers Guild Reveals 2024 CDGA Nominations: ‘Barbie’, ‘Oppenheimer’ & More
By Erik Pedersen     January 4, 2024
https://deadline.com/2024/01/costume-designers-guild-awards-2024-nominations-1235694710/ 

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See the full list of nominations for film, TV, shortform costume design and costume illustration below. The 26th CDGA ceremony is set for Wednesday, February 21, at NeueHouse Hollywood.
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Excellence in Sci-Fi/Fantasy Film
Barbie – Jacqueline Durran
Haunted Mansion – Jeffrey Kurland
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes – Trish Summerville
The Little Mermaid – Colleen Atwood & Christine Cantella
Rebel Moon – Part One: A Child of Fire – Stephanie Porter
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Excellence in Costume Illustration
1923: War and the Turquoise Tide – Maggie S. Chan
Haunted Mansion – Barbra Araujo
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Song Songbirds & Snakes – Oksana Nedavniaya
Loki: 1893 – Felipe Sanchez
Rebel Moon – Part One: A Child of Fire – Jason Pastrana

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Rebel Moon got an Artios Award nomination (winners announced on Mar. 7)...

Casting Society Artios Awards: ‘Barbie,’ ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ and ‘Oppenheimer’ Among Nominees
BY TYLER COATES    JANUARY 12, 2024
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/2024-artios-awards-movie-nominations-list-1235786254/ 

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THE ZEITGEIST AWARD
Barbie (Warner Bros.): Lucy Bevan, Olivia Grant (Associate Casting Director)
The Flash (Warner Bros.): Rich Delia, Kate Ringsell, Adam Richards (Associate Casting Director)
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes (Lionsgate): Debra Zane, Dylan Jury, Simone Bär (Location Casting)
Rebel Moon: Part One – A Child of Fire (Netflix): Kristy Carlson, Jeanette Benzie (Associate Casting Director)
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (Paramount Pictures): Wittney Horton, additional voice casting by Ruth Lambert and Robert McGee, Eve Streger (Associate Casting Director)

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Just wanted to add that I watched Oppenheimer last night and like Killer of the Flower Moon, had humor in it. Not as much as Killers but still a decent amount sprinkled in. If far superior directors like Scorsese and Nolan can work humor into movies with serious subject matters, what thw hell is Synder's excuse for not working any humor in his space "epic"?

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Rebel Moon: Part Two - The Scargiver premiered on Netflix on April 12th. It currently has Rotten Tomatoes scores of 15% (critics) and 53% (audience)...
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rebel_moon_part_two_the_scargiver 


Given the bad reviews, a Forbes critic is questioning whether Netflix will even authorize all of the planned sequels...

Will Netflix Actually Greenlight ‘Rebel Moon 3’ Now?
Paul Tassi    Apr 21, 2024,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/04/21/will-netflix-actually-greenlight-rebel-moon-3-now/?sh=349bacb742fd 

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Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver has been released on Netflix this weekend. The good news? It has indeed landed on the top of the service’s most-watched movies list for the week. The bad news? This is a movie being panned and mocked mercilessly by both critics and fans, and it would have to do some serious numbers to warrant further investment in a universe that Zack Snyder says he wants to span 4-6 movies in total. That does not look likely.

Netflix can forgive bad reviews if something is popular enough. Ultimately, they care about viewership more than they do prestige, but they have their limits. Combine the high cost of a project (Rebel Moon Part 1 and 2 were reportedly around $166 million), with poor reception and just-okay viewership, that is not a recipe for further greenlighting. And again, there is poor reception, and there is whatever is going on with Rebel Moon.

Viewership of the first Rebel Moon did not break Netflix’s Top 10 list of all time, and I’m unsure of where it might sit within the top 20, if it does at all, as last we checked Snyder said it had between 80 and 90 million views (more people saw Rebel Moon than Barbie, he claimed). Being a sequel to an ill-received first installment, it stands to reason Part 2 will do worse. And then the R-rated cuts coming this summer of Part 1 and 2 will probably do a fraction of the originals, even if they were the versions that probably should have been released in the first place.

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I find it hilarious that this movie is so bad that it doesn't merit its own thread!

I watched part 2 and it was a great example of how to spend good money making a bad movie. We didn't need twenty minutes of wheat harvesting. We didn't need a roundtable of backstories that seemed to be setting up movies 3,4,5 and 6. The characters were paper-thin and the dialog was cliche and predictable. The villain woke up and called her Scargiver before knowing he had a scar. The battle robot and the aerial reinforcements show up way too late. Various characters just sit around watching during the big battle and then jump out from behind cover when it's their turn for a slo-mo sequence. Characters I am supposed to care about die in battle and my reaction is "meh".

The only interesting thing in the movie was when the Scargiver was planting bombs on what looked like a main computer. It had a human-shaped face to it and I was hoping it would open its eyes and start talking to her. It did indeed open its eyes but didn't do anything and then we jumped down into the coal pits. Yes, coal pits... powering a starship.

Rather than watching this movie, I'd suggest watching some of the reviews that straight dunk on it. Angry Joe's review was much more entertaining than the movie was.

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My biggest anticipation for this Part 2 was all the fun reviews and memes it would generate. Still waiting for the 'Pitch Meeting' treatment. One reviewer said that a positive outcome was that in our troubled times Rebel Moon Part 2 could at least bring people together: to agree on how lame it was.

I could list dozens of things that were ridiculous.  I will add this one: Apparently there is an unwritten rule that once a hero character pulls out a glowing sword, all attacking soldiers must also engage in swordplay, no guns allowed. And the shirtless Griffin warrior guy only fought with axes.

And it wasn't exactly a rebel moon was it? It was a rebellious village of a few hundred people on a moon named Veldt. 

Considering Rebel Moon's reception, the greenlighting of additional movies or even 'Snyder cuts' of these would seem unlikely.  Netflix did not seem to put much promotion behind Part 2.

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I enjoyed reading this review...

10 Very Important Things I Learned From Watching ‘Rebel Moon: Part 2 — The Scargiver’
BY DAVID FEAR   APRIL 20, 2024
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/rebel-moon-part-2-the-scargiver-review-zack-snyder-1235001671/ 

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4. Slo-mo is cool. Getting angry at Zack Snyder for sloooooooowwwwwwwwwiiiiiiiinnnnnnggggg his action sequences down is like yelling at water for being so damned wet. Ever since he turned his 2006 Go-Spartans epic 300 into a moving gallery of men killing other men at an operatically snail’s pace, that’s been his signature move. I can’t remember who said that Snyder’s films would only be 22 minutes long if you ran all of the set pieces at normal speed, but whoever it was, I hope they won a Pulitzer for that statement. In any case, our man Zack breaks out the insta-majestic slo-mo for a lot of things here: blasting soldiers, jumping off of bridges onto coal heaps, punching, kicking, walking down a spaceship’s gangway, threshing wheat alone, threshing wheat in groups, threshing wheat at whatever the cosmic equivalent of magic hour on Veldt is. Seriously, if this film starts a trend of young people really getting into threshing wheat because the movie makes it look so slo-mo cool, we’re all for it. Please get on that, TikTok.
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10. Life is painfully short. Probably too short to read cynical, gimmicky movie reviews. Certainly too short to watch bad movies. Most definitely too short to commit to a badly constructed space saga-slash-cinematic universe that threatens to take up even more of your time and brain power while merely delivering reheated pop-cultural leftovers smothered in digital hot sauce. Turn away from your screens. Go for a walk. Start your own wheat-threshing collective. Anything but suffer through this.

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Hmmm... I'm curious but not sure if I want to invest six hours in finding out if adding a couple more hours of Zack Snyder to a couple of Zack Snyder movies fixes the Zack Snyder problems in them (namely too much Zack Snyder).

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