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From what I've read, Ariana has filmed scenes in which he appears, but she won't speak to him. I doubt she's shunning anyone who does talk to him, though. She knows it's their job. Would not be surprised if there's at least a bit of jealousy, though, because Ariana is making big bucks and getting a lot of opportunities--a few of which she's shared with the girls.

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2 hours ago, dosodog said:

I think that is possible. 

Ariana is still smug, too cool for you, Ariana.  I do feel sorry for her.  However.  She's signed up for another season that will involve Sandavol.  Production wants interaction between the two and for Sandavol to interact with other cast mates.

Ariana drew a line in the sand about anybody who continues a relationship with Sandavol will no longer be interacting with her.  How does that work for Production?  Not well.

I think they gave Ariana grace when it first happened, but over time, they're going to want her to move on and not place restrictions on everyone else choosing who they want to interact with.

Sheena wants to be friends and/or get along with everybody.  She had a friendship with Sandavol. I can see her being hurt in the beginning. But Sheena is going to Sheena.  It's in her DNA to want to get along.  So now, because of Ariana's ultimatum, she has to choose.  That's going to give her heartburn.

Katie was criticized by many because she didn't want Schwartz to date in the friend group.  She didn't tell people you can't be friends with him--just don't date him.  Did Ariana stop being friends with Schwartz because Katie got fed up with Tom's cheating and just Tom being Tom?  No.  She still hung out with him.  That's going to cause heartburn.  Katie also had a front row seat to Ariana and Sandavol gaslighting Kristen.

Lala just wants ALL the attention.

 

I think Ariana's team stipulated in her contract that she would not be making nice with Sandoval. What Bravo didn't get that she was just going to go silent when he was around. Bravo thought there would be some verbal interaction and hoping for at least a shouting match since they still share a house. Production hasn't gotten anything yet.

You're right about Scheana being Scheana. She just wants everyone to get along and hates discord.

Katie is also just Katie. She is still going to take shit from Schwartz. Ariana hates Schwartz because she thinks he knew much earlier and helped to hide the affair, she's probably right. Ariana has a business with Katie. I wonder how it will play out when Katie starts making peace with her ex husband, Ariana can't unfriend her business partner and can not demand that Katie not associate her her ex.

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I watched Scheana's Amazon Live today.

She's really into astrology, auras, tarot cards, etc. She was asked if she was going to let Ally do an astrological reading for her.

Scheana said I'm not going to answer that.

I'm thinking an astrological read from Ally for herself and Brock was either filmed for VPR or she is going to have Ally on her podcast. I think they did film it for VPR,

 

 

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On 8/7/2023 at 12:56 PM, dosodog said:

Ariana drew a line in the sand about anybody who continues a relationship with Sandavol will no longer be interacting with her.  How does that work for Production?  Not well.

Katie was criticized by many because she didn't want Schwartz to date in the friend group.  She didn't tell people you can't be friends with him--just don't date him.  Did Ariana stop being friends with Schwartz because Katie got fed up with Tom's cheating and just Tom being Tom?  No.  She still hung out with him.  That's going to cause heartburn.  Katie also had a front row seat to Ariana and Sandavol gaslighting Kristen.

Lala just wants ALL the attention.

The thing about Katie and the "friend group" is that she didn't want him dating another VDR cast member.  And technically he didn't - he merely kissed Raquel for "storyline" purposes.  (I will never call what they did "making out".) And it benefitted Katie as much as it did Schwartz - it gave her the chance to pick up the dogs, hear him begin to whine about his life, and say something like "that's a shame" and waltz out the door 😂

"Lala" was able to tell people to choose between her and Rand because he's not a cast member.  Ariana does not have that luxury - she must have something to do with Sandy or else not be on the show.  She can drag it out for a season but if she doesn't deliver she will be cut for the next year - her choice, and I think we all know which choice she will make 😄

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Has anyone seen the Bethenny letter to Bravo/NBC via a law firm and Mark Geragos?

Sandoval has jumped onto the wagon and co-signs.

I hope the dingbat strikes without a union in existence - so that Bravo can sue his ass for breach of contract. This would erase him from future seasons of VPR or any other Bravo show.

Tom and his white nails can take a hike

 

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7 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Sandoval has jumped onto the wagon and co-signs.

Interesting. Where did you read this? Last I heard he was tagged in Frankels tweet.

I wouldn't be surprised, he isn't very smart-book or street and operates on unchecked ego. Trading Frankel for Cohen. Fun!

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50 minutes ago, itsadryheat said:

Interesting. Where did you read this? Last I heard he was tagged in Frankels tweet.

I wouldn't be surprised, he isn't very smart-book or street and operates on unchecked ego. Trading Frankel for Cohen. Fun!

The letter that was sent, I google searched Mark Geragos letter to NBC, it pops up on most of the sites that will come up i.e. TMZ, hollywood reporter, page six.

They are saying they are representing many individuals - but they aren't naming names.

I doubt that there will be any kind of case. Firms don't generally, write a letter - they file papers in court. It has also been implied that Raquel is one of the "many individuals"

 

 

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29 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I doubt that there will be any kind of case. Firms don't generally, write a letter - they file papers in court. It has also been implied that Raquel is one of the "many individuals"

Thanks! Definitely, the thirsty leviss family is in on it-they have that 200K mental health spa bill to reconcile. While I believe the concerns have merit, it's interesting how they are going about this - media announcement, tagging prospective "individuals", then writing a letter. Frankel and Geragos are no strangers to the spotlight, and sandy shares Frankel's media addiction.  

Most likely the upcoming season will include the roommate's living situation and moving out of the shared house. Unfortunately, they won't include the best part, the unfortunate and messy financial situation.

"The pair purchased their $2 million property together and Sandoval later took out a home equity loan on it to finance his latest bar opening"

"He's doing that loan, but it's only against his own equity. It doesn't affect me at all," Madix told Vanderpump during the season 9 episode. Vanderpump later pointed out that it can't just be "against his own equity" as the two are "joint co-owners" of the home"

Wonder if it's listed yet. 

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As a side note, if any of you get the chance listen to the latest Juicy Scoop podcast with Carole Radziwill being interviewed. She talks about the origin of the famous Regency photo of Luanns Tom. I believe her.

Back to the whole Bethenny, Mark Geragos fiasco. While I do believe Reality personalities should have fairer wages and get residuals, Bethenny is the worst person to represent them or lead the charge - ask her to make public one of her contestants contracts from The Big Shot. Let's see how much she paid them. Let's see what residuals she paid them and let's see how much she is willing to pay in back residuals.

I hope that none of the current Reality personalities strike per Bethenny's suggestion (except for Tom and Raquel) The only way any of them should strike is if they have a contract where Bethenny will pay all their lawyers fees, and monetarily pay for any negative outcome in a court proceeding and living expenses while on strike.

To ask that the VPR cast or any Reality show that is currently in production strike is ludicrous. Bethenny has nothing to lose, the cast that are currently filming would be sued for breach of contract - and every one of them would lose. The contracts they've signed are very specifically outlined - even past the time they leave their shows.

Currently there is no bargaining chip on the side of Reality personalities:

1) there is no union

2) it won't work unless every single reality personality goes on strike across all networks. Even if that were to happen - every Reality personality is replaceable - there will always be people willing to work for a minimal amount just to be on TV.

3) trying to get residuals is understandable - but going on strike isn't the answer. Trying to get BACK residuals is a fantasy.

Tom would really screw himself if he were to strike even it is after filming ends on VPR - it would guarantee him not being asked back. Raquel has no case, no one forced her to drink, deprived her of sleep, or slipped a mustached worm up her vagina other than Raquel.

 

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On 8/9/2023 at 11:09 PM, itsadryheat said:

Thanks! Definitely, the thirsty leviss family is in on it-they have that 200K mental health spa bill to reconcile. While I believe the concerns have merit, it's interesting how they are going about this - media announcement, tagging prospective "individuals", then writing a letter. Frankel and Geragos are no strangers to the spotlight, and sandy shares Frankel's media addiction.  

Most likely the upcoming season will include the roommate's living situation and moving out of the shared house. Unfortunately, they won't include the best part, the unfortunate and messy financial situation.

"The pair purchased their $2 million property together and Sandoval later took out a home equity loan on it to finance his latest bar opening"

"He's doing that loan, but it's only against his own equity. It doesn't affect me at all," Madix told Vanderpump during the season 9 episode. Vanderpump later pointed out that it can't just be "against his own equity" as the two are "joint co-owners" of the home"

Wonder if it's listed yet. 

Bethenny Frankel and Mark Geragos are fame whores.

Ariana and Sandoval's house was not listed yet.

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On 8/10/2023 at 11:55 AM, KungFuBunny said:

Juicy Scoop podcast with Carole Radziwill

I was excited to listen to this podcast...until 5 minutes in. Heather was talking like she had spent the night with sandy doing his vast array of pharmaceuticals. She wouldn't stop talking about herself - Carole could hardly get a word in. I couldn't make it through the entire podcast. I like Heather- I hope she listens to this one and learns something. Carole doesn't do many podcasts and I was hoping to hear more info on Bethany since she is in her manic stage.

Today in pure form, Bethany claps back on what Carole said regarding the person who took the "Not Tom" Regency photo.

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The  latest rumor is that Katie has been hooking up with Max Boyen.

Max was on Season 8 and he was/is friends with Scheana. He's the one who hooked up with Scheana a long time ago, then on the show he was with Dayna, and then he hooked up with the Scheana look a like that works at Vanderpump Vegas.

After Max was fired from VPR, he remained the General Manager of TomToms. He quit TomToms after a blowup with Lisa and Ken. They made him promises they did not keep.

Max is really close to Scheana and Brock. He can be seen on many of Scheana's vlogs.

I hope this is true, because it will bug the shit out of Schwartz.

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4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

The  latest rumor is that Katie has been hooking up with Max Boyen.

Gross. Her "picker" is definitely off when it comes to boyfriends.  I wonder what was really wrong with Satchel? 😄

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20 hours ago, princelina said:

Gross. Her "picker" is definitely off when it comes to boyfriends.  I wonder what was really wrong with Satchel? 😄

It might’ve been that he wasn’t all that interested in dating Katie on camera.  Might’ve been his choice.  I am also not convinced she is over Schwartz.  That could’ve been tiring too,

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On 8/14/2023 at 11:33 PM, princelina said:

Gross. Her "picker" is definitely off when it comes to boyfriends.  I wonder what was really wrong with Satchel? 😄

Since we've seen (and heard) so little of him, I think after he met her friends and filmed a few scenes with them, he decided he wanted nothing more to do with her.

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17 hours ago, b2H said:

It might’ve been that he wasn’t all that interested in dating Katie on camera.  Might’ve been his choice.  I am also not convinced she is over Schwartz.  That could’ve been tiring too,

Maybe Satchel wasn't all that interested in dating Katie whether on - or off - camera.  Or he caught a glimpse of what he came off as or looked like on camera - a nebbish - and didn't want to subject himself to ridicule.  He wasn't really all that fascinating in the small glimpse we saw, so no loss.

As for Katie, I've always found her to be a mostly dead-pan lackluster sourpuss. Without her torch for Tom melting all the candles in the room, she doesn't add much. So perhaps a new boyfriend for her will add some personality to the mix - because without it, she hasn't got much going on - there's just so many ways you can wrap a sandwich.

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While Season 11 is filming, Raquel will be creating her brand called Skinny Mistress.

Bethenny will be screaming Cheater Brand.

 

Raquel's first product will be a perfume. Currently 2 names for the scent are being tossed around. "The Other Woman" and "Eau Du Ho"

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9 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Since we've seen (and heard) so little of him, I think after he met her friends and filmed a few scenes with them, he decided he wanted nothing more to do with her.

Haha in real life maybe - but I suspect he was there all along because he wanted to be on tv! 😄

9 hours ago, realityplease said:

As for Katie, I've always found her to be a mostly dead-pan lackluster sourpuss. Without her torch for Tom melting all the candles in the room, she doesn't add much. So perhaps a new boyfriend for her will add some personality to the mix 

Not if it's the gruesome and hideous Max!!!

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17 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

How serendipitous is it for Schwartz with his new look to be surrounded by garbage cans?

I predict in Season 11, fingers will be pointing and laughing when Schwartz walks into a room

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Oh no! He's wearing a douchey FSU shirt! 😲

14 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel's first product will be a perfume. Currently 2 names for the scent are being tossed around. "The Other Woman" and "Eau Du Ho"

Or "Ho Du Eau" (abbreviated H2O). 😃

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Next season is sure to be another blockbuster for VPR, full of cast engaging in quality time activities such as skinny dipping in the pool, hang-gliding, taking mushrooms and watching the sunrise. P 2 leviss shared:

"He’s not technically a producer. He’s been on the series from day 1 season 1. I don’t know even if I’m able to disclose this information but he did tell me during negotiations for season 11 that he was offered a producer credit for season 11. So I think he was being rewarded for the Scandoval of it all. And to me that’s just kind of gross because it seems, it makes me skeptical, was this really something that was fabricated for this end result?"

Which contradicts:

frankel: "Was the showing failing before Scandoval?"

leviss: "Yes Alex Baskin went on the record himself, he’s our executive producer of VPR and he said the show was going to be canceled after season 10. And if it wasn’t for Scandoval, there wouldn’t be another season."

Curious why they would give him a producer credit for S11, if they knew it was going to be canceled after S10. 

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Raquel, just like Hoody said about Bethenny, contradicts herself.

Whch is it, every word out of Tom's mouth is the absolute truth or he lied and manipulated you

NO ONE, on any Bravo show, inclusive of Bethenny, has ever had producer credit with the EXCEPTION of Lisa Vanderpump for "Vanderpump Rules"

It would be a conflict of interest, in Tom's case to be promised that because as a cast member they want the "messy actions" so they aren't going to hand over the ability to edit or cut out scenes.

Now I can believe Tom said that to Raquel, but it was him lying to her as usual.

Bethenny was on Bethenny Ever After and RHONY - again conflict of interest to allow a cast member producer credits and rights. She was never a producer on any Bravo shows.

Raquel, said that right after, March 29th she flew home to Phoenix, stayed a few days and then went straight into a facility. She said they took her phone to keep her cut off and she did this voluntarily. She said she was there for 90 days. If this is the case then how did Tom tell her about about getting producers credit for Season 11. Negotiations on Season 11 contracts began mid-June, Raquel was allegedly in the facility.

I also don't believe that Vanderpump Rules was going to be cancelled after Season 10. They were still getting enough ratings to continue. This type of information would never have been disclosed to cast members.

We all know Raquel screwed Tom, because she thought that would secure her spot for the next season. The plan was to wait till season 10 wrapped, Tom would break up with Ariana, they'd wait a few months and then appear as a couple a few months out - in time for the filming of Season 11.   If Vanderpump Rules was going to be cancelled after Season 10, then there was no reason to have an affair with Tom and there was no reason to hide it.

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58 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I also don't believe that Vanderpump Rules was going to be cancelled after Season 10. They were still getting enough ratings to continue. This type of information would never have been disclosed to cast members.

We all know Raquel screwed Tom, because she thought that would secure her spot for the next season. The plan was to wait till season 10 wrapped, Tom would break up with Ariana, they'd wait a few months and then appear as a coupe a few months out - in time for the filming of Season 11.   If Vanderpump Rules was going to be cancelled after Season 10, then there was no reason to have an affair with Tom and there was no reason to hide it.

I think she was covering her bases 😄

Based on what was to be the final episode before the "Scandoval" one I can believe that they thought it might be cancelled - Lisa's cheesy toast to all of them sounded like a wrap up!

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6 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Next season is sure to be another blockbuster for VPR, full of cast engaging in quality time activities such as skinny dipping in the pool, hang-gliding, taking mushrooms and watching the sunrise. P 2 leviss shared:

"He’s not technically a producer. He’s been on the series from day 1 season 1. I don’t know even if I’m able to disclose this information but he did tell me during negotiations for season 11 that he was offered a producer credit for season 11. So I think he was being rewarded for the Scandoval of it all. And to me that’s just kind of gross because it seems, it makes me skeptical, was this really something that was fabricated for this end result?"

Which contradicts:

frankel: "Was the showing failing before Scandoval?"

leviss: "Yes Alex Baskin went on the record himself, he’s our executive producer of VPR and he said the show was going to be canceled after season 10. And if it wasn’t for Scandoval, there wouldn’t be another season."

Curious why they would give him a producer credit for S11, if they knew it was going to be canceled after S10. 

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I didn’t listen to the podcast (I can’t stand Bethenny) so maybe I’m missing something but I don’t get how this is a contradiction. It sounds like before Scandoval broke, the show was most likely going to be cancelled after season 10 and this was confirmed by Alex Baskin. Of course, who knows with the Hollywood strikes if they would have been saved anyway but Scandoval meant the show was going to be renewed even pre-strike. Then during negotiations for season 11, which happened after Scandoval broke and they knew they were getting an 11th season, Rachel says that Sandoval told her that he was offered producer credit as part of the negotiations. That might not be true (that Sandoval told her that or that it was actually offered) but I’m not seeing how it’s a contradiction. Also, Bethenny was an executive producer on the Bravo show, Bethenny & Fredrick, so producer credit is sometimes given to cast members but it’s rare. I don’t think it’s happened on any Real Housewife shows. 

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37 minutes ago, glowbug said:

I didn’t listen to the podcast (I can’t stand Bethenny) so maybe I’m missing something but I don’t get how this is a contradiction. It sounds like before Scandoval broke, the show was most likely going to be cancelled after season 10 and this was confirmed by Alex Baskin. Of course, who knows with the Hollywood strikes if they would have been saved anyway but Scandoval meant the show was going to be renewed even pre-strike. Then during negotiations for season 11, which happened after Scandoval broke and they knew they were getting an 11th season, Rachel says that Sandoval told her that he was offered producer credit as part of the negotiations. That might not be true (that Sandoval told her that or that it was actually offered) but I’m not seeing how it’s a contradiction. Also, Bethenny was an executive producer on the Bravo show, Bethenny & Fredrick, so producer credit is sometimes given to cast members but it’s rare. I don’t think it’s happened on any Real Housewife shows. 

I think what Alex Baskin had said was that there were discussions of changes and there was uncertainty in the route they would take. Lisa is an EP, she would have wanted some version of the show, it could be Vanderpump Rules with an entire cast change or Vanderpump Vegas. Lisa has another new show Vanderpump Villa which is going to take place in a French Villa and follow the lives of the staff who take care of the estate. This show doesn't not showcase her restaurants.

What I do believe is that if scandoval never happened, The Valley would never have been given the green light.

I forgot about Bethenny having an EP title on that real estate show. The only reason she got the title is because she pitched the show to Bravo and her company filmed it - B Real Productions.

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On 8/15/2023 at 3:06 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

I REALLY hope they captured Sandoval’s reaction to LVP moving the PUMP sign to TomTom.

”Like, that’s so, like, disrespectful, like, duuude.”

Well, the Toms owned such a tiny percentage of it, it's not their decision, or concern, or even their restaurant.

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I do think Vanderpump Rules will last as many years as Lisa can make it happen. Lisa being on Vanderpump Rules is better than returning to RHBH. She is a producder, she doesn't have to really talk about her personal business like she did on housewives, she gets to promote every one of her business ventures.

If she were on RHBH, they'd maybe film 2 scenes one at SUR and one at TomToms. On VPR, they can go to Vegas and show off both of her restaurants there, they just flew to Lake Tahoe, she has a new restaurant opening at Harrah's. They film at SUR, TomToms, they may show Vanderpump Dogs because of the Hippie situation.  She can showcase her Vanderpump liquor.

I also think the show has at least 3 more seasons because of the following: They are nominated for 2 Emmy's, the only other Bravo show that has ever been nominated is Top Chef - and that's a competitive reality show. For Season 11, I don't think Bravo is expecting the same number of viewers they had as season 10 - they know that was because of Scandoval. I think even if they end up with less viewers than season 9, they'll keep going because VPR's Scandoval drove people to sign up for Peacock.

Are Bunny's prayers answered or is it wishful thinking?

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On 8/17/2023 at 4:26 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Frankel contradicts herself often.

 

She says they reward financially the ones who cheat.

 

She also can’t resist asking why Rachel chose her, Skinnygirl, to interview her. Rachel heaps on the praise. 

She said Bravo rewards frauds, and cheaters, which is true. Like Sandoval, Teresa Giudice, etc. 

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Max dropped out of filming the Valley Village Idiots. Katie looks cute in her new short haircut, but she is boring otherwise.

Viewers might watch a few episodes of the new season out of curiosity, but not for too long because it seems that the new season will be boring if Scheana's sister, and Billie Lee are filming (on top of Kristina Kelly). The cast, and their "adventures" were boring last season before Scandoval. How much of hanging out at bars, and forced events (including the ones where the cast members promote their various products) can we watch? I don't care to listen to Scheana's song, or see Ariana promoting her book.

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1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can’t I just hope that it ticks off Sandoval? 🙃

Yes.

But he is probably happy he still has a job, and I don't doubt he will earn more this season because Bravo rewards people like him....

 

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On 6/28/2023 at 10:50 AM, KungFuBunny said:

If Raquel sent it - then she "recorded it" and Sandy simply "saved" it. If this is the case, it shows you what a rotten skank she is. She's basically saying don't forget what you have waiting for you anytime you want, don't have sex with Ariana.

If they were having Facetime sex, I don't know whether I believe that she didn't know it was being recorded. The Facetime sex is basically a souvenir anyway, she got off, he got off - so what if he taped her. If she masturbated, and he just watched - then of course he's going to tape it until he is in a place with more privacy to jack off.

I think she didn't want it coming out because it would show how complicit she is.If you think about it, how did she know to send papers to Ariana, Scheana, and others that it was a recording and not pictures?

Whatever or however the video came to be, it was between the two of them and neither of them gave Scheana or Ariana the right to send it to anyone. And with both of them being the spiteful witches they are, god knows who they could have released it to. 

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On 8/18/2023 at 1:25 PM, KungFuBunny said:

Since they're still filming season 11, maybe Ariana's new book will be featured. It just dropped today

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Cut to a shot of Tom seething

 

So stupid. What’s next, the “Cheated On Barbie” in her likeness. I guess Bravo is gonna try to cash in as much as possible before this trainwreck comes to a screeching halt. 

Hopefully she sends some of the proceeds to Rachel because without her, none of this would be possible. Especially since the entire VPR watching world knows her and Tom were basically just roommates long before this scandal and that cheating in this group really means nothing….so this was all just for show. 

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On 8/20/2023 at 12:02 PM, hottesthw said:

Hopefully she sends some of the proceeds to Rachel because without her, none of this would be possible.

It would have been less scandalous if it was a groupie. There still would have been a season 11 - maybe a change up in the cast or a total move to the Vegas locations.

Rachel really was always a non factor on the show.

In simple terms, she had 3 holes Tom liked to stick his worm into.

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