Bessie

Misha Collins behaves as though he needs the money from all his destiel fans, so I doubt he ever stops stirring that pot. Playing castiel for all these years was a good gig for him, largely because of destiel fans. So I don’t blame him. But I do question his authority when it comes to judging anything having to do with Castiel’s feelings toward Dean. He comes across as having ulterior motives. Makes him untrustworthy.

I can’t speak to his motivations, but my reaction to his story was that he has an excellent director’s eye. That scene would not have been nearly as powerful if Dean had been on the ground. Not for me anyway. So I really appreciate that Jensen fought for that view of the scene.

@tessathereaper: Okay. I’m not as invested as you seem to be. I don’t view it as a competition that one of them is “winning”. Jared is just more well-known to general audiences right now. And if chaos machine wants the largest possible ratings for their spn spinoff, they’ll want to attract the general spn audience, not just Jensen fans. I would if I were starting a production company that relies on an spn prequel. I don’t see any need to measure Jensen’s success against anything having to do with the padaleckis. To each his own. Hopefully, the Ackles will move on to projects not involving spn and that may eliminate any perceived competition. I’m done with supernatural in any form. It was a great show, but it’s over, for me. I’d rather see what Chaos would do without using supernatural as a jumping off point.

I doubt it. If he could get high profile interviews, he’d do them. It’s part of his job. Actors don’t generally pass up these kinds of media opportunities.

@BornToDie, Jensen and his wife would have loved to be interviewed by the NYT. Jared is the one with the pull to get it. They need him, he’s moved on. But he’ll still help with PR. The CW loves it and it allows CBS Studios to showcase a lead on one of their new productions. It’s a win/win situation for Jared.

It’ll really test that theory. Maybe that’s why they didn’t tell Padalecki. Free publicity! I think kripke tweeting out that Padalecki was too busy forced a response earlier (and a far more emotional one) than otherwise would’ve happened. He didn’t want it out there that he was just too busy to have anything to do with it. The legacy of supernatural is part of his appeal and kripke speaking on his behalf, giving out false info had to be publicly rebutted. it’s interesting that kripke had no idea that the Ackles kept Padalecki in the dark about the specifics on the reboot. And I completely agree with @Hana Chan that a lot of this can be chalked up to the Ackles’ being newbies at the production business.

Well, if it’s such common knowledge that Jared would react the way he did, it just makes Jensen’s handling of the announcement even more idiotic. He’s got a product to sell. The rollout sucked. ETA: None of this means his business can’t recover, but he screwed up.

Sure there is, if Jensen wanted to create a space for it. It’s his show! So it’s fine that he doesn’t want Sam in the show. But he was nuts if he thought there wouldn’t be any consequences. im curious about how this will play out. A joint statement, maybe?

I think it’ll flop and all the drama will be forgotten. It could be. But Jensen seems pretty invested in continuing to tie himself to Supernatural.

One thing I’m pretty sure of now: it wasn’t Jensen who pulled the plug on supernatural.

Jensen needs new pr people. What a stupid, own-goal he and his wife just pulled. What is their angle with this? Why not just tell Jared before posting it all over social media. It would have taken all of five minutes. Idiots.

I’m not sure it bothers him. Lots of fans think they’re good friends outside of work. Maybe they are? (thanks, @Casseiopeia, for bringing over great social media tidbits for us over the seasons!)

Am I missing a big announcement? I thought Padalecki was going to lead a series that is already in production. Why would he want a guest spot on kripkes show? I suppose for old times sake, but that would be stunt-casting. Nothing he’d audition for, I don’t think. Misha would be smart to get a guest spot on any of Jensen’s future projects because so many of his fans seem to view him through the lens of destiel and cockles. And he was smart to latch onto that ship from the very beginning of his run on supernatural. It was a very good career move for him at the time. I suspect he’ll ride that train until it no longer helps him.

There is no way they were going to give a car to just one of the leads. Never going to happen. Either they would offer the car to both or neither. I don’t see why it’s a big deal. The impala is an iconic symbol of the show. A show which succeeded largely due to the two lead actors. Of course both actors are going to be rewarded. It would be bizarre if they didn’t.

I did. That info has been out there for years.

I can definitely see that happening. TPTB could even do a movie about the adventures of Dean and Castiel if they were so inclined.

Agreed. This is a coup for kripke and it wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see misha pop up as a guest star too.

I don’t really care what any individual Hollywood person has to say about this. But this seems a little shortsighted. Isn’t that the point of social movements? To get people to understand how an injustice against a group that you don’t belong to affects you. To get buy-in. You’re not going to succeed without it. That’s not all it takes, of course, but it is a critical component of any future success for racial equality. I want white people to recognize how police brutality affects them, too, so I’ll take it. I’m not picky.

I wonder what the timeline is for filming Walker. At some point, Jared’s availability becomes limited. Although, I suppose the writers have had plenty of time to account for that possibility and have alternative scripts in that scenario.

Yes. Based on info they have today. Things are fluid right now. We’ll see what happens, but I doubt it.

Is there an equivalent to pilot season for amazon and Netflix? Are they part of that? Im curious because if Jensen gets something with either of them in the future and this forum is no longer active, how do I find out about it?

Could be. Does it matter?

Seeing Jensen in a series like Justified would be incredible. I keep thinking he’s going to announce something soon because he’s been so active on SM and various appearances. I also am not interested in superheros at all. So, I’m selfishly hoping he gets something else. We’ll see. I’m glad I don’t work in the entertainment industry - it seems like a crap shoot at times. I’m looking forward to Walker, but only because of Jared. If it entertains me I'll watch it, if not, I won’t. But I think Jared was smart to take the part. I wish them both future success.

After the latest episode, I’m finding myself resenting castiel’s presence on the show. I’ve gone from like to disinterest to animosity with this character. It’s been a weird journey with him. He appears on my screen and I roll my eyes and groan. The opposite of season 4. I think gamble was correct to get rid of the character when she did. If that had stuck, we could have a much better show today. (Of course, be careful what you wish for). His presence kept the god/angel storyline alive and the writers use it as a crutch. I’ll always wonder where they would’ve gone without the angel connection after season 6. Or what new character I missed out on because Castiel was brought back.

At the end, when the boys returned to the bunker and the two angels waiting for them, I finally figured out my ideal ending: Blow up the bunker with chuck, castiel, Jack and any other angel-related creatures. Then, show the boys returning to crappy hotels rooms and life on the road, fighting the good fight. This episode was a perfect encapsulation of why I used to love this show and why it’s so bad now.