ToukieSmith

I liked Nene too and I absolutely respect her achievements. She has maximized her opportunity with RHOA and I am the first one to give her a standing ovation for that achievement. I lost love for her when she treated Kim so rudely and disrespectfully over Tardy for the Party. She and I were done when she disrespected Kim after Kim arranged for all the ladies to stay at a home of one of Kim's friends. Nene was a bullying bitch and there was no excuse for her behavior in another person's home. Just thinking about it gets my blood up. She was jealous of attention Kim was getting and she talked shit about Kandi. When she wanted to be included, she wasn't woman enough to say so. She picked the project apart then when it achieved some success, she decided to turn her anger on Kim full force. And she has the gall to say that people don't support her accolades..... Nene cannot make a grown person do anything, but she does influence the way other people act. She chooses to be an instigator when she can choose to be a peacemaker. She is the one that got on national TV and suggested that Cynthia be fired from the show. I don't recall anyone else openly campaigning for someone to leave the show. Whats it to her who is doing what on the show as long as she is getting hers? RHOA is HER show and she expects all of the other women to fall in line. I don't like any woman to be called a whore, a ho, a THOT. I am surprised and disappointed that no one questioned Porsha the couple of times she said THOT on the show. Moreover, its sad that she thinks so lowly of herself to present herself in such ugly clothes then refer to herself as Princes of THOTlandia. As I said previously, I hope this is just a stage Porsha is going through as a result of her new found freedom and self exploration. I am not jealous of Porsha. She annoys me, but I think she is a lot of fun. Porsha is a beautiful girl with a beautiful figure. I have these attributes too.

I don't like it either. OTOH, I appreciated that Porsha called herself the Princess of THOTlandia and had fun with it. Women should dress and express themselves as they please without judgement. I am also about context and Porsha did not mean any harm. OTOH, I don't like the normalization of the description as if its okay to describe someone as such. Andy got all up in a snit beause "my gays" were used on RHOBH (the women did not mean any harm) so I think he should be alerted to the fact that its inappropriate to allow "THOT" to be used to describe women no matter the context.

You are not alone. I am feeling all gullible and kumbaya myself. This episode was fun and I laughed at all of them laughing at each other. For the first time since this series started, I would have wanted to hang out with them.....I have really fallen into the Koolaid. The RHOBH reunion will be bring me back to my senses. Mrs. Smith loves Mr. and Mrs. Leakes and even she said that Gregg needs to get a job and stop following Nene around. SnarkKitty, I think he was selling Club Apollo member services at the time, not mattresses. Nonetheless, I got your overall point. He had so many jobs that its hard to keep them all straight.

Maybe she is just enjoying her new found freedom and confidence. Maybe this is her real persona. She does seem to be having a lot more fun now than she did when she first started RHOA. I don't care for her new look either, but maybe we will get the opportunity to watch her evolve to chic and sexy next season. Um, I teared up when Phaedra and Kenya prayed together. I really hope that was sincere.

She is the self proclaimed Princess of THOTlandia. She has to dress the part.

I need to look into that toaster too. I don't think Depends will have a problem with Lisar making their brand look hip and cool. Instead of being one step from a wheel chair like other geezers that wear Depends, Lisar is cussing like a sailor and flipping the bird like a youngster.

Whats the difference between doing a Depends commercial for $1M versus showing your ass on national TV for $1M? I don't understand why doing a so-called diaper commercial is a bad thing when it a) brings in an income and b) keeps you in the public view when you are a celebrity. Lisar knows that she isn't Meryl Streep. She plays her level and she keeps her family financially secure. Brandi would love for someone to offer her $1M+ to do a Depend's commercial. What a hater.

He would have spent the next six months in traction.;-)* I don't think there are any women on RHOA that he could lift. He does not look like he has that kind of strength. I don't think anything would have been said other than they were playing, having fun. Now, if Leon lifted Nene by the ass and threw her in the pool, that would break the internet. *I feel compelled to say that I feel that I can make fun of big women because I am one. Proudly.

Yep. When they were kekeying on WWHL, I knew something was up. Good for them both. When Nene left the session with Dr. Jeff, I thought to myself that it was a setup for her exit from RHOA.

She is doing a good job in her role;-).

My point was that Nene said something malicious about Phaedra and Phaedra forgave her for it. Nene and Phaedra were never friends. Nene treats all of other woman as if they are beneath her because she is the star of the show IMO. She will never see them as her equals and surely Phaedra knows that. Phaedra is willing to give Nene confidant status over Kandi given Nene's history and I find that troubling. I was speaking to Phaedra talking to Porsha and Nene about her difficulties with Kandi. She did not need to discuss that with them. Why would she? Doesn't she have enough going on with Apollo and the children to discuss with them without throwing Kandi under the bus? Just because Phaedra is going through difficulties does not give her a pass for treating her good friend like crap. If she doesn't think Kandi is there for her, then she can call up her so-called good friend and talk to her about it, not discuss it with her so-called good friend's frenemies. What I have seen from Kandi is that she would not do the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot. When the other women have asked about Phaedra, she either deflected the question or told them it was none of their business. IMO, thats a true good friend. Kandi would not be a good friend if she is having difficulties with Phaedra and Phaedra learned of those difficulties through Kenya.

Respectfully, I think implying that a woman was a whore in high school (head doctor) on national TV is an attempt to diminish her reputation. IMO, Nene was trying to bring Phaedra and her perceived fauxness down a peg when she made that crack. If Nene had said that about me, we would never be more than cordial whereas Phaedra is all up in Nene's face as if they have been bestees for decades. While friendships do change over time, I don't understand why Phaedra would discuss Kandi with Nene at all. You can not be friends with someone and not talk about them with a perceived enemy. Last I checked, Kandi is on front street with her opinions about Phaedra. She does not agree that Phaedra should keep her kids away from Apollo and she was upfront with Phaedra about it. Kandi did not deliver her issues with Phaedra through Kenya. If Phaedra feels that Kandi betrayed her, then she should say so instead of using Nene and Porsha as surrogates. Its interesting that she shut Claudia down when Claudia asked questions about Kandi, but private Phaedra did not do the same thing when Nene and Porsha were asking questions that did not need an answer.

I think Kandi only brought this up because Phaedra suggested that Kandi needed to extend an olive branch to Nene. Kandi basically said that if Phaedra can forgive Nene for all of the mean things that Nene has said about Phaedra, then Phaedra should be able to forgive Kenya.

I smiled and laughed out loud a couple of times too. I enjoyed them getting along and having fun. We've been talking about Cynthia and Porsha's larger behinds and I was tickled when they talked about it. I was very happy for Nene and her accolade. Well done.

I am not jealous of Brandi having sex with Andre so I am not sure why Lisa would be. Lisa has everything she can ever want and a man that wants to give it to her. Lisa is a lot of things, but she isn't jealous of Brandi. Kim is discerning because she does not get offers.

I am saying they should shorten the season from the current number of shows to focus on quality instead of quantity.

I lean on Kandi's side. Nene is not Kandi's friend so its shady for Phaedra to talk to Nene about issues with Kandi. If she had an issue, she should have called Kandi. If she couldn't get Kandi, she could have discussed the situation with Ms. Regina. Kandi is not a perfect person, but I believe she has been a good friend to Phaedra up until this point and she deserves the benefit of doubt over Nene of all people. I would be insulted if my friendship was compared to the friendship of some chick that referred to my friend as the head doctor. Dr. Jeff has been a paid for shrink for decades. His appearance on this show is for producer driven entertainment. Nene should not have been surprised. Maybe one of the problems with RHOA is that the season is too long. If the season was shorter, maybe the storylines would be better.

Bravo optioned Millionaire Matchmaker and Newlyweds The First Year...... I am tired of these excursions to hell. It seems to me that they would get along better if they stop vacationing together.

My point is that Kyle could not get compensation if Big Kathy had not named her as executor. Big Kathy could have chosen Kim, but she did not go in that direction. The conversation ends right there IMO. If Big Kathy wanted Kim to have a controlling share of her house, then she would have willed 51% to Kim. If Kim wanted control of the property, then she could have talked to her favorite sister Kathy so they could control the property with their shares.

Kim seems to be the type to make sure she gets what is supposed to come to her. She had the option of hiring her own attorney to review the paperwork if she felt Kyle would be untrustworthy. If Kyle took a salary as executor, she was empowered to do so by Big Kathy. If there were objections then Kim should have spoken to her mother about it. My mother says that mothers know their children. Big Kathy knew that Kim could not handle the management of her real estate holdings. She also knew Kim is an addict and could not be trusted in any role as a decision maker which is why things happened as they did. Kyle and Mauricio could not steal the house from Kim because Big Kathy never set it up for Kim to own it in the first place. While Kim does not get to own the PS house, she does not have to worry with the taxes, mortgage, or maintenance. I think she got a good deal. She gets to enjoy the asset without any responsibility for it. Context is important. As a viewer, Brandi's comments took me out of the scene. I was enjoying the beauty of the house, dinner, and the conversation. Everyone was chatting along cordially then Brandi says something inappropriate to shock the room and bring all of the attention her way. She ruined the vibe of that party and I was really mad when she did that. I like Babyface and I wanted to hear him come up with a song and Brandi ruined that for me. I think people like Kim always make their contributions bigger than what they really are. I also think that some things don't deserve applause because they are what you are supposed to do. You are supposed to take in your mother if she needs you to do so. Just because other people don't does not make you special because you do. I heard the same thing. My impression at the time was that she was trying to bring him down a peg by calling him Maurice. I never got the impression that it was a term of endearment or familiarity. I did not perceive it as a racial put down however. Again, context is everything. Grown people understand the nuances IMO.

Kim is not interested in those documents. She knows her accusations bother Kyle so she will not stop bring it up until she finds another millionaire to marry and regain her position as a rich housewife of Beverly Hills. The age of her conquest didn't bother me. There are some very handsome, interesting and accomplished 22 years-old out there that don't look like they just graduated middle school. This guy looked wet behind the ears and he was not particularly good-looking. She looked ridiculous in that ugly outfit and her demeanor reminded of that skeevy American Apparel guy. Men and women who leer and salivate at the sight of a potential love interest/sex partner gross me out.

Brandi looked desperate and skeevy because the guy was not good-looking/sexy enough to be remotely interesting. You are right, she has no game. She is supposed to be a hottie and all she can pull is a douche looking middle school student that is not good-looking or interesting enough to raise the eyebrow of a viewer. If we are keeping score, Kyle, the Lisas, Eileen and Yolanda have it better at the house than what Brandi can pull on a date with someone half her age.

I rolled my eyes when Kim hugged Kyle. She won (in her mind) then she moved in for the victory lap. None of that was sincere. I get not seeing eye to eye on some things, but to take Brandi's side against blood? Oh no, never that. Kim can miss me with all of that bullshit. I hear you, but I don't think there is more to this story. If it were, I think Kathy would have gotten involved. Also, it seems that Kyle has taken care of Kim so there may be more involved than just a cash transaction. I think Kim feels that she is entitled to get her way because her mother used her skills and talents to elevate the status of the entire family. Well, that was not anyone's fault but Big Kathy's. Kyle isn't responsible for the choices grown ass people made when she was a child.

I don't think Kandi's tears were fake. I think she has difficulty with her emotions. I think she loves Todd, but she does not know how to manage her relationship with her mother. In her mind, Todd knows who she is and married her warts and all. Unfortunately, he does not see it that way. How do you create an environment for relationship success when you don't know what that looks like? Kandi is controlling, but I don't think she is mean spirited and malicious. There is a lot of power being the bread winner, but it also means that you are responsible for holding everything together. Phaedra is a terrible friend. Kandi has been right there when Phaedra needed her. In contrast, Phaedra turned to her ride or die friend Nene to talk shit about Kandi because Kandi was not begging Phaedra to open up about her problems. I would be in the thick of things too. It may cost more to live closer to town, but surely her commute is eating away any savings she realized by leaving out in the burbs.

Well, to be fair, Nene does not like Phaedra or Kandi either. She moved over to the "smalls" when her friendship with Cynthia went bust and she could not gain any traction with her special guest friends.