LotusFlower

Ginger, how do you know so much about the family? Asked with curiosity! Your knowledge is so detailed and impressive!

My tv guide says the next episode (ep. 18) is “The End of an Era, Part One,” so I’m guessing two more episodes.

Not a Meri fan, but “I’ve been married once and divorced twice” was pretty funny.

Does that mean next season we’ll be subjected to many episodes of Robyn talking about and getting ready for the

Did they get it appraised? One third, as Christine no longer has a share. But it’s not even one-third, as the division of the parcels is so complicated!

Maybe because he didn’t know. Gary sat there mute, while others covered for him, implying no one knew because everyone was drunk and messing around.

Is the current season two years behind? Because Janelle and Meri were still talking about building on CP. In real time, Janelle just bought land in NC (with what money??!), and I’d be shocked if Meri still wants to build there. So that just leaves Robyn and Kody. Did you notice Robyn saying she still wants to live on CP when Kody and Meri were discussing the option of selling all of it? She pretends she’s so open and fair and for-the-greater-good, but she always finds a way to get what she wants.

That scene was gold! Did you notice the death stare Kody gave Meri when she exposed him for not having a clue about her Stonehenge obsession? He was SO uncomfortable. He didn’t care at all that he didn’t know a thing about Meri - but he cared A LOT about not knowing anything ON CAMERA.

Janelle lived in a trailer with her teenage daughter. She gave money to Kody and Robyn for a down payment on their $1 million+ luxury home, while she lived in a number of nondescript apartments and homes and the aforementioned trailer. She has started a number of businesses which have fizzled out. She claimed on the show that she has “basically nothing,” and no estate to leave her children. It feels like folks think Janelle is smart about money because she sounds smart. But if you look at her financial decisions and see the naive way she talks about money, she’s not that smart! I guess my main point is that re: finances, Kody has controlled and scammed all the wives since forever, and continues to, minus Robyn. (Robyn came into the family with debt, and is now living in a $2 million house and living large, so she’s also a scammer). If anyone has been mischievous or underhanded about money, it’s Kody. Janelle’s warning to Meri about protecting herself, combined with her financial naivety and non-materialistic way of life tells me her intentions were good ones. Kody’s, on the other hand, were not. Again, he’s the asshole.

A lot of this is speculative, and I guess I don’t agree with some of it, esp. the part with Janelle getting a private reassurance from Kody that Christine trading her CP parcel for her house would benefit her and screw Meri. What seems very evident to me, esp. after last night’s episode, is that Kody made all the financial decisions and controlled all the money, and kept all of the wives in the dark, even Janelle. Plus, Kody and Janelle weren’t exactly on good terms around this time (and it’s only gotten worse), so it doesn’t make sense that they would gather to conspire against Meri. And now Kody says he’d screw Janelle if he could(!!), if not for his noble wife. Lastly, it just seems so out of character for her. Yes, apparently Janelle did the bookkeeping for the family (until when?), but she a) doesn’t sound very smart about money; and b) has made a lot of bad financial decisions. She keeps talking about wanting to leave an estate to leave for her kids, but right now she has next to nothing to her name, while her once-husband is living large in a $2 million home, with multiple fancy cars. The scene with Janelle and Maddie & Caleb showed Janelle basically dismissing Maddie when she tried to get her to think smart about their family’s money. Janelle, along with Meri and maybe Christine, seemed to just put blind trust into Kody re: managing their money, and it’s now biting them in the ass. Doesn’t sound very savvy to me.

How did Janelle screw Meri over the land? Seems to me that Kody was the only one that controlled everything re: Coyote Pass. Especially the deeds.

That was the old Meri coming out - manipulative and bitchy. Janelle was trying to look out for her, and she throws her right under the bus. And yes, Meri acts all empowered in her talking heads, but she always gets all giggly in front of Kody and acquiesces. Kody doesn’t want to get the land appraised because it’s too messy? Too emotional? He’s totally scamming the wives. How can they be so dim? And why is the money Janelle and Meri put in to Robyn & Kody’s mansion never brought up?!

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Yes, Meri cheated. That’s why the tense discussion she had with Leon stood out to me - Leon was definitely giving Meri the side-eye for things he knew about the relationship with Sam, implying the romantic nature of it. It took me awhile to figure it out because a) they were kinda talking in code, and b) I hate Kody so much, so it would never dawn on me to think about it from his POV. But, as Leon pointed out, Kody was his father, his parents were indeed married, and Meri carried on a months-long online affair with a person she planned to run away with. How is that not cheating? That being said, the nature of polygamy is so incredibly unfair and sexist towards the sister wives, so I’m totally sympathetic to the predicament Meri was in. Which is why I keep saying how fascinating it would have been if Meri had opened up and talked truthfully about the whole affair.

Really? Wow, ok. As I remember it, Meri never ever used the word love. In fact, she talked about the whole thing as an online relationship with a FRIEND, always denying her romantic interest in Sam. Fake-Sam apparently scammed other people, and the show decided to bring another victim to Las Vegas to meet Meri and swap stories. I remember the other woman opening up very honestly about looking for love and getting fooled, while Meri nodded along nervously and contributing little to nothing, as she was still going with the pretense that her relationship wasn’t romantic. I remember at the end-of-season reunion or tell-all, the host had the unenviable task of asking Meri about the infamous banana voicemails and photos, and Meri stammered and said she was hacked and they were “looking into it.” A lie! Then there was the conversation between Leon and Meri about the whole thing, which was awkward and tense because Leon knew the truth, or at least a lot more than Meri was admitting to. Leon seemed angry or frustrated with Meri, not only for stepping out on Kody, but for not coming clean about it. More lying! Yes, Meri embraced the word catfish, but has never admitted that as an ignored and abandoned sister wife, she was looking for love, romance, and yes, sex. Which, to me at least, would have been a raw, candid, and honest peak behind the curtain of the life of a polygamous sister wife, which is what this show was supposed to be about.