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I’m not a Brennan fan, but I will give him credit for not bringing up Emily’s drunken make out session with the Australian guy. Very odd the ladies tried to make the double date story a thing, knowing Emily made out with someone not her .husband This is the fifth drunken Emily story we have seen in a six week marriage.

I like Whoopi. I think she's funny. She brings a certain cranky old lady vibe that I connect with 🙂. And to me she's an icon. However, I get why others view her differently than I. Is Whoopi the best moderator....probably not. But I don't think Joy is a great moderator either. She tends to cut off discussion too quickly to insert a joke. If Whoopi left, I would love to see them go back to a journalist in the moderator role. I don't agree with any of the ladies 100% of the time, but for me this is the best panel chemistry they've had in many many years.

Agreed. I think most of the women come across as “performing” for the camera as well. I don’t think any of them have taken much responsibility for their role in their relationship issues either. Becca keeps saying Austin is concerned about how he will be portrayed on tv. but he’s not directly saying that. He’s saying he disagrees with her perception of his character. Even in the hidden camera apartment footage, Becca was the one who said Austin is only concerned about the cameras. The men have not spent much time speaking negatively about their wives with each other or with their friends. But all the ladies have criticized their husbands with anyone who would listen.

I thought it was interesting he said his network would deal in facts and let the viewer come up with their own conclusions. Then he proceed insist his conclusion on schools, kids and covid was fact.

Whoopi in particular has acknowledged the problem multiple times. But she's basically of the opinion that it's too late. There is basically no other path rather than Biden vs Trump so discussing the age thing is a waste of time.. Sunny has acknowledged the problem as well and went so far as to suggest that Biden could step down after he secured the nomination and be replaced by Gavin Newsome. Both are basically tired of Alyssa putting the onus on the Dem's to save democracy everyday. She has good points, but I'd also like her to put that same level of energy towards her own party every day. Implore the Republicans to nominate someone else and save democracy sometimes.....

True. But she did come across a bit "hit dog" during the discussion. The way Alyssa spoke today, made me wonder if she is also worried that he would personally go after her if he was re-elected.

I'm not so sure. The reason why Biden won the nomination, was because it was perceived that he was the only one who could be Trump. People were concerned about his age, and tendency for verbal gaffs even then. There were 10+ running on the democratic side most of them perfectly qualified for the job. I'm not confident that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would have beaten Trump, which makes Biden more than a potato 🙂

Sarah was correct. The Dr. Dre Global Impact Award is NOT a Black artist award. It pays tribute to any artist who has used their platform to give back, past just the musical medium.

So glad Sunny pushed back on Alyssa’s talking point about fentanyl and the border. Her initial inference was that the migrants seeking asylum were bringing it in. When Sunny pushed back as that being false, she then tried to back track her statement

I think Sunny was on point. The country of America is not a group of people. People (native, European, African, etc) lived here before 1776 when America was created. The country of America is an entity that was created around the constitution and laws. As Sunny and Whoopi previously discussed on this show this week, racism is literally in the original constitution and explicitly stated in multiple laws up and through 1960s. So it's not an unfair conclusion for Sunny to state that the country of America was racist from the start. And while some Americans are racists, the the American people as a whole are not.

Emily said that Becca tried to initiate intimacy by jumping on top of him. According to Emily, Austin batted her away and told her to get off. (According to him it was said as a joke). Brennan said that Emily got drunk and tried to break down the shower curtain to get to him in the shower, she then jumped on top of him in bed and smothered him. The implication was she was trying to have sex. He told her to stop. He was not playing when he said no and was upset by the incident.

Not a good sign, when there is as much discussion of the Afterparty than the actual episode. But I'll go ahead and add to the afterparty discussion anyway 🙂 Emily said Brennan got angry after she said something he didn't like. Keisha asked her what did she say and that seemed to trigger her and she refused to answer. Sounds like she possibly said something pretty foul. But instead of saying whatever it was she turned on the tears and implied that Brennan was scary and possibly abusive (throwing things at walls). She also did the exact thing she accused Brennan of by trying to pivot the conversation with Keisha and saying she wanted to talk about something more positive. Also interesting that what she accused Austin of doing in rejecting Becca's advances is very similar to the incident Brennan described with Emily breaking a shower curtain to get to him in the shower and then jumping on him in bed.

Agreed. You could tell he was a preacher's kid. Very engaging, the ladies were all actively listening rather than waiting to ask their questions.

I'm can't imagine the he or someone in her past has not told her that her party girl ways are a turn off. I think he didn't want to go into it on camera with the experts because he thought it would embarrass her, but I do think/hope he told her off camera. This is the outcome many of us predicted as soon as she said that she was in her late 20s and had never been on a serious relationship (I think she said she's never had a 2nd date even) and was constantly ghosted. I think Emily knows why this happens, she just isn't interested in changing. The dating world is horrid.... but not that horrid. Generally attractive, social, and stable women can find someone to date more than twice.

I think I’m finally coming around on Alyssa. Which means she’ll probably leave the show. 🙂 While I agree with Sunny on Nikki Haley (can’t get past the pandering to white supremists), I did appreciate Alyssa’s rationale for supporting her. She’s gotten a lot better at expressing nuance with her arguments. I also agreed with her on the Simone Biles discussion over the other ladies.

She had a similar personality on her season. A tad overly confident. But then the house turned into a mob of meanies against her for no real reason and the viewership sympathized with her.

I think Taylor took a calculated risk in not putting up X. It really does depend on how strongly she thought the all girls alliance would have been. If she put up X and Josh and X wins, then he's still in the competition but no longer an ally. Meanwhile Nicole Britney and Frankie will likely target her and X. But there was a chance she could convince the girls to target Frankie/X If she put up X and Josh wins, Josh would still work with her. But they probably wouldn't be able to beat Frankie. Also the chances of Josh beating X was small. Britany/Nicole might target her and Josh or maybe Josh/Frankie. If she puts up Nicole and Josh wins - would be her ideal situation. She would have 2 allies to get Frankie. Britany would be more likely to target X/Josh/Frankie than her. If she puts up Nicole and Nicole wins was the risk she took. She still has X as an ally. She's still in the same scenario as point one. But it's less likely that she convince the girls to target Frankie/X. So it comes down to which alliance she felt was most likely to keep her safe.

That's a fair critique. But what I also see, is a lot of hate when guests/cohosts make references to her career or mention how much her work has meant to them personally or professionally. Whoopi isn't fishing for this, and usually looks humbled or uncomfortable about. It. Whoopi has had a legendary career. And I'm glad to see people giving her her flowers now.

I'm usually not a fan of the garage sales at the end of the show, but I enjoyed today's toy segment. From Alyssa and Sunny it the bubble ball suits to Whoopi and Sarah recreating the Ghost scene with the pottery wheel. Thoroughly entertained and the ladies looked like they had a ball 😃

Must be engagement season. Yvette Nicole Brown announced her engagement on the show today.

Cha Cha was robbed!....LOL. Her jumping into her carrier on command looked like the best trick.

He said he didn't want to tell her why he wasn't attracted. And if the shoe was on the other foot (she wasn't attracted to him) he wouldn't want to know why. As he already has said he found her physically attractive, I'm leaning in that his lack of attraction has to do with her personality. I think he prefers a more "classy" reserved woman. Emily did previously say that they shared similar core and political beliefs. And I took that to mean conservative. I can see a conservative guy expecting a woman who's never been in a serious relationship to have a limited number of sexual partners. So Emily pushing intimacy so quickly is likely a turn off.

I don't think they can. Private universities still receive federal funding, so I think it would still be subject similar rules as public universities. I also doubt that a liberal arts private school would want to limit free speech (even hate speech). It's somewhat of a slippery slope, as reasonable people can disagree on what is hate speech. I don't remember if the example the ladies discussed actually occurred on the college campus, or was it social media posting of a student of the college.

And what Whoopi and Sunny didn't say as strongly as they could have, Is that similar hateful things are said about minorities and LGBTQ on college campuses all the time, and that too is protected. One of them tried to make that point to Allyssa when discussing the difference between hanging a noose in a public space vs hanging a noose on a specific person's door. One is protected speech the other is a direct threat. But Alyssa seemed to be intent on a gotcha moment instead of realizing her own hypocrisy.

I think he said he was half Navajo and half another Native American tribe (maybe Sioux). Same pre wedding episode where he said he doesn’t date Native American women.