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No, rapelling down a waterfalls isn't conducive to chatting. But it is conducive to physical closeness, helping, and affording Gerry a gander at Leslie's gams. In contrast, he rode ahead of Theresa. Did Gerry have sex in a Fantasy Suite? I believe he did, probably with both women but definitely with F1. I've gone from Faith to Leslie and now Theresa. Just as I think Sandra cooked her own goose with her "6 inches" wisecrack out of the limo, I'm thinking Gerry (Indiana!) might not cotton to Leslie's juvenile japes, either

I think now that Gerry’s dilemma is choosing between lust and love. Or rather, which woman has a lust/love combo that for him gives the slightly larger percentage to love. IOW, I now put Leslie at 55/45, and "Treesa" [tm Gerry] at 45/55. Learning about Theresa's financial smarts seemed to make an impact on Gerry. Riding horses, as with driving dune buggies, is one of those together but separate activities. Plus, riding ahead of Theresa afforded little opportunity for conversation.

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You mean Orion doesn't go off the reservation? 😄 😇 I keed, I keed! Apparently this expression for "deviating from the norm or expected" is now considered racist terminology. I believe this is my first and will definitely be my last usage. So I guess Orion has made a difference!

F1= Week after Thanksgiving. Episodes 1-3 are repeated next week.

Re: Race, Lauren, and Orion. Okay, there's a world of difference, to me, in intent between using the "N" word and using the expression "going off the reservation." Orion needs to stop calling people "ignorant," even if they are. At least, not these other couples who are his social group for now. They're here for enjoyment and romance, not for lessons in sociology, anthropology, history, or politics (and I am a fan of all those subjects, but time and place, Orion; time and place). Awkward, even with Lauren. (Next week's "No sex" clip from him was certainly a cliff-hanger!)

(Tall Guy and Short Woman) I now heartily dislike badgering, argumentative, superior attitude, word-twisting, therapy-worshipping Claire. STHU! Run, Cam! She'll be analyzing and questioning your every word if you stay married! And Claire is shady. "And you....fix bikes." Making Cameron defend and explain his love of the unique engineering and human components to "fixing bikes." Run farther, Cam! This dame is never going to be okay with your not being a degreed "professional." Think of her snark at your expense at future social events.

This isn't really episode-specific, just something I've seen too often with women of a certain age (e.g., Susan): the attempt at cutesy youth by crinkling the nose when laughing. 🚫

X is all a-Twitter (see what I did there?) over the PDD sketch for the Hamas "joke." Also for the entire "suicide, haha" premise. Dang, Timmy! You better not have just sunk "Dune: 2"!

Lest some think I have not an ounce of modernity, I must say that I highly enjoyed Timothee's first hosting gig, and that his Rap skit with Pete Davidson was---how should I put it?---YEET! This time, yeah, no. And I cannot abide Marcello. I think his Angry or Offended or What About My Being Hispanic Do You Not Get, Lucy?! Character is too close to the true Marcello, aka, Chip on His Shoulder unfunny. (Didn't like him at all as the Low-Achieving Brother to Austin Butler's character.)

This was a big "Nope!" for me. Unfunny opener, especially considering the real people. And Trump's lines were completely NOT TRUMP, because he spouted statistics. Britney's book: I can do a better John Mulaney, and I'm a 74-year-old dame! Plus, they could have done Bill Hader as Bill Hader doing someone else, like Keith Harrison. "Timothee Chalamet" was totally him, though. But mostly, I cannot believe that Chalamet STILL wants to present (or rather, reprise) himself as some Rap star! And SNL notwithstanding, he's kidding on the square! FEH, TIMMY! FEH! ("Wonka" will flop. MMW.)

Maybe to Gerry your conjunction "or" is "and." J/S 😉!

Re: Living near a lake. All I can think of is "brain-eating amoebae," and there goes any attraction of a lake!

Gerry interacted with the women; we've seen only an edited version (Captain Obvious at your service!). He is the only one who knows who stirred his heart and other organs, who to him as the man he is, is "much better." Maybe some women we thought were cool, bored him silly. Maybe some women we thought were fun, held no sexual attraction. Maybe some women we thought were pretty, struck him as bland or superficial. I don't buy for a second that Gerry is seeking primarily "care" and "companionship." It can't be that hard to settle for such in Indiana. Nor does he want, Pickleball notwithstanding and IMO, primarily a gal-pal for sports. I think Gerry wants the entire array of romance, and he clearly wants it with a brunette.

I can believe that Gerry has felt at times emotionally overwhelmed by the sheer number of women, never mind his feelings for more than a couple. I want to believe that Grandzaddy Gerry, rumored Sugar Daddy Gerry, decided to buy into the show's Fairytale premise and suspended any cynicism or ulterior "not there for the right reasons" motives. Thus, in the hot-house "GB" atmosphere, from declaring love to bidding adieu, Gerry might indeed have felt only his wife's passing had affected him as much.

Wait just a goldarned minute! "A break for...Thanksgiving"?! That's the BEST night for this Finale! Nice and full of tryptophan, all cozy under a QVC blankie, Black Friday battle attacks completed, we want the ring! Show us the ring! Harumph.

"Grammar Nazis 'R' Us." 😉 😁 Perhaps they should have eliminated her from the get-go. I think before Clare, though, Michael should have been a non-starter, and I'm not so sure about Orion, either!

Susan is fun, Susan is lively, Susan is personable---but Susan is not going to be chosen to have 20 Silver Bachelors compete for her. Faith? As in "Must Love Horses" Faith? Nope again. If anyone from this season, it would be Gerry’s F2, who now is looking more and more to be....Leslie! I'm still clinging to her as F1, though. That the scene with Faith would be more emotionally fraught if he led her on any further, as opposed to with Theresa ("He hasn't said 'I love you'."). I really hate to say this, but his tears tonight just made me mad! Like, STHU mad! He's like The Little Boy Who Cried "Wolf," except he's The Old Guy Who Cried..... And Gerry, please FTLOG, SHAVE!

Yes, Toni was his high school sweetheart. https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a45583711/golden-bachelor-gerry-turner-late-wife-toni/

He didn't and doesn't need to explain anything, other than he preferred another!

I'm in PA, but thanks for the advice. FTR, I responded about a post that used the words "feel free to spoil [italics mine]." Not "chat," "spoil."

Gerry’s Mission #2 Accomplished! To make these women---and their sisters under the skin in the viewing audience---feel that "we're optimistic...more hopeful. We've realized that at our age we're not invisible, that we have meaning, and that we have many things to offer." Now, will he find his next True Love and accomplish Mission #1? On another note 🎵: I am betting the next Bachelor/ette is the usual. ABC might like to study this season. Who knows? There could be an entire spin-off!

Hidden, please!

The "experts" can hardly be "blame[d]" for adhering to, you know,THE ACTUAL POINT OF THE SHOW [HINT: "Married At First Sight"]! OF COURSE they matched Becca with a stranger! Re: Airport, C&C: Just re-watched. Yes, Cameron was maybe a couple paces ahead of Clare, but those behind them weren't exactly in lockstep. When C&C passed through the doorway, they were essentially side by side. Then we see more in Clare's relating the moment while they are in the hotel room. She thinks Cameron is insensitive and ungentlemanly (I can see this, as he is not behaving as a besotted groom at all). He thinks Clare can look after herself. They both might be right. He is taken aback by her "we're not romantic yet, right?" So he saves face and agrees. I can appreciate Cameron's droll sense of humor, but when your new bride thinks you're being sarcastic (or you really are) instead of truly complimentary, you need to switch gears, Bike Boy. But I also find Clare extremely inarticulate, in the sense of saying seemingly contradictory things interspersed with "like" and "you know what I mean?" What did she find so difficult about saying straight out (she eventually gets close), "I need to be shown a man cares for me before I can feel comfortable with getting physical." Or, more succinctly, "Romance before sex, Husband." Good luck getting your luggage and your relationship back on track. P.S. About the cute plush kiwi gift: Clare is an adult. That pre-wedding gift ought to have had a nice piece of jewelry attached!

Thank you, JenE4! I missed that entire C-C suitcase contre-temps; must've dozed off! 😊