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Well, if David and Pavrati end up as final two (or even two of the final three), the other players have nobody to blame but themselves. They let 'the family' flaunt their alliance from the very beginning and really didn't put up much of a resistance. Dr. Will is the only one who went after them a bit by taking out MG (?).

I think Emem played us all (including the producers). For her and Brandon to get engaged on their 'second' date implies to me that something was going on well before then. Did she do the show to make Brandon jealous? Did she start seeing Brandon while on the show? Did she only get together with Brandon to flaunt her relationship in Ikechi's face? Don't know and doubt we'll ever get the full story, but it just doesn't make sense that they reconnected after Decision Day and moved that quickly while Emem pointed out to others that they had divorce in common... Madison and David seem to want everyone's validation that, yes, they were meant to be. Her dad with his 'the heart wants what the heart wants' is what one says to justify themselves. The heart may want something but that doesn't mean one has to act on it. I laughed when they were leaving the first group event and Madison was all boasting about taking down Michelle. Hmmm, not so much as Michelle didn't seem to be backing down. Oh, and the whole 'it doesn't seem like everyone is supporting us' at the second group event (Thomas' birthday) shows that Madison and David do not see any issues with how they got together. I liked that Allen publicly addressed that, again, he does not want 'closure' or really any other interactions with Madison. Way too much time spent on those two. It seems that Juan and Allen are good friends-or at least friendly for how many more times they have to film the show. Michelle-just stop. Quit trying to be a martyr-it's a much better look for you to move forward rather than replay two months of lying from a man in whom you really weren't interested. Take a lead from Allen-just ignore and don't engage.

So, Ryan H. and Jake who didn't take any bread for themselves and left it for the others were not given any supplies by the other families when the opportunity was given. And, the woman who took a second portion of bread was rewarded by given three supplies. Guess the families are not as kind and cooperative as they portray themselves. It seems like the contestants just stay in their little campsites and don't do anything outside of challenges, etc.

This 'scandal' caused me to wonder what would the outcome be if the 'experts' picked the 10 individuals they thought were best suited to being married at first sight and just let them choose amongst themselves to whom they wanted to be married. Even let them just hang out one evening and then indicate to whom they interested. Would results be different? Would Madison and David have chosen each other? Don't know, but the results could not possibly be worse.

I still think 'prison guard' is really an escaped serial killer.

I think the 'prison guard' who is now part of our hunting party is one of the escaped convicts. Overall I enjoyed this episode and will give the show a chance.

I used to enjoy the renovation and reteaching how to cook segments. It seems like the production has changed to be more centered on problems and personalities. This British pub episode was enjoyable in that the personalities weren't at war with each other, but there really wasn't a focus on reteaching the menu. It seems to me that the mom wanted to open a restaurant to give her son something to do. Does nobody read the statistics on how many restaurants fail? However, it did look like they were in a good location so that's a huge advantage. Hopefully they will continue to do well. But, a million in debt? How does that happen?

Way too much time spent on the father/daughter this episode for me. I fast forwarded quite a bit. I'm here for the contestants to figure out how to survive, but it doesn't seem to be that so much as they have the possibility of getting supplies throughout the experience from their support people. I don't know why it was expected that all the support teams of the men should give up the hot chocolate drop when there were two women with the green 'health' status. Seems hypocritical to me that healthier women were more entitled to the supply boxes than not as healthy men. It seems like most of the participants just wait for the next supply drop.

I think David and Madison may feel a lot of pressure to stay together and flaunt their relationship in order to prove how 'right' they were to 'find' each other. Make themselves victims in their marriages as it was 'destined' for them to be together. I think Allen is really appropriate to not shake David's hand or really interact with him or Madison. I think that will bother David (and maybe Madison) more in the long run rather than pretending everything is all right. Emem is losing me with her ongoing need to take down Ikechi publicly. Look, we know he's a jerk, let it go and rise above it. Michelle also needs to let it go IMO. Let Madison say whatever she says to try to justify herself or make herself a victim, and just laugh it off. Reacting so much feeds into whatever it is Madison is trying to convey. And, Madison, the red eve shadow does you no favors (well, and neighter does walking in with David like he is a trophy).

I had no idea about Chris' stroke and didn't recognize him at first. I appreciate that the show gave him an opportunity to be on it. Other than that, there really wasn't much to the episode. I did enjoy the tap dancing 'secret' but that was really a throw away compared to the tattoo/6 months anniversary nonsense.

Don't forget 'they'll help each other grow' along with 'opposites attract'....

Okay, unpopular opinion, but I like Shae. I like that she's not fooled by Mattie's 'aw shucks' role playing. Nobody else is challenging Mattie's undercover secret agent motivations, so bringing Shae in to try to create tension is good IMO. Mattie can't have it too easy-this is supposed to be a well known law firm. It still boggles my mind that apparently Shae is the first person to contact one of Mattie's (fake) references. Where is the background check on Mattie?

So many great insights and perspectives in this thread. I thank you and acknowledge that you all were far more eloquent than I in expressing these viewpoints. As for the custody case in this episode, I didn't like either parent and felt that the boy was most relaxed and at peace while talking with the court appointed counselor. Sarah should have been fired well before this episode when she went after Mattie and turned against Billy. This episode? No partner is going to accept Sarah's inappropriateness while interacting with staff or potential witnesses like the neighbor. There is no way she is a brilliant enough lawyer to override her inappropriate responses and actions. I felt like this episode was the start of a retcon of the overall plot. Perhaps the writers realized their original premise was flawed and could not be sustained over time. But it seems they are making Ellie's and her parents far more complicated than originally thought. It also seemed like they are changing the timeline. It used to be '10 years' but seems to be '14 years' now. And, they are showing more divisions between Mattie and Edwin. She is definitely the 'mover' who has caused them to uproot and relocated, allow Alfie to focus on revenge while concurrently breaking laws and missing school, go undercover to expose who knows what, etc., etc. Oh, and to add, the basic premise in the premier was that Alfie chose the name Matlock because he used to watch the show with his mom and they enjoyed it. Not so much if he was taken away from his mom while still an infant (or toddler). Did we then lose the whole reason this show is called Matlock?

So, maybe Matthew Broderick and Nathan Lane will end up in the same prison and decide to put on Broadway musicals together-maybe something like Springtime for Hitler?

I think a difference is that people associate Rob with strategy and Parvati with social game (even though the reality is that she is very strategic). This enables the others to think 'well, my social game is just as good as hers, so she isn't a threat.' People tend to really overestimate their abilities to play the social game, but being 'friendly' or 'fun' isn't the same as understanding how to socially manipulate others. There is also a level of denial involved such as 'there's no way she is playing me...'