WearyTraveler

Well without spoiling too much info for you, I'll tell you how the theory goes, but, be aware that some book details will be included in the explanation I personally don't like this theory and would be disappointed if that's how it happens. I want Jon

Thank you, the link worked now. Maybe it's wonky stuff on my side. Also, for those interested in the explanation of the photoshop picture, here's the how and here is a gif that actually shows how hilarious the photoshop is: http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1434074149144.gif

Here is a direct link to all 4 pictures According to the discussion on 4Chan the picture of Jon is photo shopped. It's the same shot of Jon they point out in the discussion the specific things that confirm it's a fake. The other three are real. I always thought Jon was the combination of both (Fire from Rhaegar, Ice from Lyanna) The link leads to a 404 error: Page not found. It has obviously been taken down. What did she spoil? Can you tell us and wrap it in spoiler tags?

True, but it's the stuff they didn't show that made me like her on the show more. For example, on the show, she doesn't rat out her own father to Cersei. Reading her thoughts on that chapter elicited a lot of "OMG! How much more stupid can you be?!"

I think Ellaria and the Sand Snakes stole the necklace. As to how / why Jamie will break up with Cersei, perhaps he confronts her about the charges the FM made against her and she cops to sleeping with Lancel. Knowing TV Cersei, she snaps when she's under pressure (like when she told Tywin about her relationship with Jamie), so, maybe, out of spite, she'll tell Jamie that she's slept with plenty of others too, even if that's not true on the show, and that's when he'll refuse to be her champion in her trial by combat. It would mirror Jaimie's state of mind in the books, where his break with Cersei is mainly fueled by Tyrion's words "even Moonboy, for all I know". I have been wondering if perhaps D&D will have Jaimie's Riverlands story happen next season. It would make sense on the show that a disappointed Jamie (if my above speculation happens this season) would turn to setting the Riverlands straight. And perhaps that would be a better transition to whatever storyline is in store for Jamie in WoW, after his showdown with LS.

I too believe that LF made it so she would be more agreeable to his suggestion. Bringing her all the way to Mt. Cailin was manipulative. Sansa being so close to her home was bound to play with her emotions, add to that his speech about revenge and yes, he had more chances of Sansa accepting his proposal. I was sad that Sansa had to go through the whole ordeal with Ramsey, and would have preferred if they gave her some of Manderly's role in sabotaging the Boltons from within, but I wasn't outraged or angry about the change. It's just a deviation from the books. Sad and painful, but well, such is life in Westeros. I'm hoping that Sansa can pull through. And she's not even one of my favorite characters. To be honest I always thought book Sansa was an idiot with her naive fantasies about knights and princes and, for me, she didn't learn fast enough in the books. I remember always thinking "when are you going to open your eyes, you idiot?" a lot while reading her chapters. I think TV Sansa has fared better with me. Edited because ypou is not a word! :D

I imagine that to the Dothraki, Dany will look like the ultimate rider because instead of a horse she rides a freaking dragon. The Dothraki respect people who ride a horse; I suppose they'll respect a dragon rider even more. My guess is that she has Drogon burn the Khal (because they will try to fight / kill / take her) and the rest will fall to her feet calling her Khaleesi. Then they will follow the dragon all the way to Mereen where Victarion's ships will be waiting (in the books, at least).

The length of a contract doesn't mean what we usually think it means. It doesn't guarantee that the actor will have work in the series for seven years, it just guarantees that the series can make use of the actor for those seven years. For example Lost signed its season 1 regulars to multi-year contracts, but some of the characters they played died before the contracts were up, and so, the actors were then released from said contracts. The way it works, in general (because agents can negotiate these points based on an actor's demand) is that if you're a regular on a show you get paid a certain amount per episode, even if you have no lines, or don't appear in the episode at all. This guarantees the showrunners creative freedom because they know your character is and will be available to them as long as the contract stands. And it guarantees the actor a paycheck, so he/she doesn't go out looking for other projects. But, all these contracts have a clause that basically says that if the creators think the best thing for the plot is to kill your character off, then they can do it, even if you have a few months or years left in the contract. They are not obligated to pay you after that. Usually, showrunners tell actors these things as soon as they are sure they will kill the character, as a courtesy, so the actor can go and find other work before his/her character's demise. In short, the length of Kit's contract is not an indicator of how long Jon Snow will be an active character in the show. But, the fact that there will be set reports, pictures and all the other information we get while the show is shooting is an indicator, and if they leave Jon's fate a cliffhanger, we won't have to wait too long to find out.

And some of us love you for it! Well, she didn't burn Mance, though. It was all a trick. That said, I think that more than "King's" blood, she needs "Leader's" blood, or maybe Targaryen blood. Edric had Baratheon blood, and we all know that the Baratheons have a pinch of Targ in there. Also, when Melisandre burns other people she always says they are a sacrifice to R'hllor, too. She just specifies that sacrificing someone with "King's" blood is much more effective. R'hllor is either a very blood thirsty god, or Mel is wrong about this too.

In the books, when Jon first reaches the Wall, they say that there are only 1,000 men, in total, in the NW. I think that by the time we get to DwD, they are down to around half that number, but I'm not completely sure. The show is vague on this number. When the Wildlings were coming to attack Castle Black, they made it seem as if their numbers were seriously down, but in the last episode there were a lot of extras dressed all in black in the background. I guess they are vague because it's convenient to have less crows during a dire battle, and more when it comes to mutiny.

I think the show might only use the NW distate for Jon's decision to make peace with the Wildlings as a trigger for the stabbing, and nothing more

Well, I think that Drogon had taken care of plenty of the Sons of the Harpy with his fire, not to mention the ones that ran away as soon as they saw him burst through the fireball in the sky. Also, some people might have called in re-inforcements to come to the arena, after the SotH attacked. I foresee more unsullied going in, breaking through the doors that the SotH locked and coming to the rescue. They don't even need to be called in. Once they saw the dragon and heard the terrified screams they would have rushed in, I believe. Then there is the little issue of this being Dany's first flight. I don't think she's supposed to be able to control this weapon enough to use to everyone's advantage. She has never been on Drogon's back before, how is she supposed to invite people to join her? I'm sorry but thats just very Harry Potter. This is a savage beast that has been running free and unchecked. Dany doesn't have a manual, she needs to learn how to control and direct Drogon, and until she does, there's no guarantee that he will listen to her instead of just frying everything in sight. Now, the scene is slightly different in the books, because Drogon doesn't come to save Dany, he comes because he smells the blood and he starts eating people. Dany has to face him down, and she rides him mainly to save the people in the stadium.

All I can ask is that you try. :-D

I'm sorry! Please forgive me because this might sound incredibly pompous, but it's driving me up the wall because I keep seeing it in post after post. The names are spelled as follows: - Myrcella, not Marcella - Kevan, not Kevin - Trystane, not Trystin - Oberyn, not Oberon - Brienne, not Brie (she's not a piece of French cheese) - Westeros, not Westerous Thank you, and sorry, sorry, sorry!!! My head screams every time I see these spelled wrong.

Well, yes we should care, but I feel there are a couple of things that bug me a little in this article. 1) Is that Stannis, as awful and unforgivable as he is, is not doing this solely because of ambition. That may play a part, but the character in the book is more complex than that. He believes firmly that he's the savior of the 7 Kingdoms and that if he doesn't do this, the WW will take it all. So, it's not that simple. Not that I support burning (or flaying, for that matter) anyone at the stake, much less a child. It's just that it seems this view that Stannis' drive is solely propelled by ambition feels overly simplistic to me. 2) They make it seem as if Tywin was pushed into a corner: "Red Wedding or years upon years of war" and that he cared about the lives that would be lost on that war or the suffering of the smallfolk, when nothing is further from the truth. If Tywin so wanted to avoid a full on war, he could have surrendered. Robb was Ned's son, he wan't going to kill an enemy that had already surrendered. Plus, on the show, Tywin never expressed, before or after the RW any interest on the plights of the regular Westerosi chums. In the books, he even So, no, this wasn't an incredible moral dilemma Tywin was wrestling with. He ordered the slaughter for many reasons, but not a single one of those reasons had anything to do with the possible future suffering of the subjects of his grandson, Joffrey.

Maybe Stannis just told her that when he needed her help the guards would come and get her and that she should go with them. It doesn't really matther, though, does it? Whatever he said, it wasn't "You want to help? Great! Tomorrow morning at first light we'll burn you in a great pyre, so the Lord of Light will help us get Winterfell. Be ready!!!" I thought one of the most heart wrenching things was that up until the last image we got of Shireen, when she was tied to the pole, she was clutching the stag Davos carved for her in her right hand.... (sniff!!! Davos is going to be very, very angry, I think)

Not only that, but right before she says those words, the text establishes her as the very best seer of the flames. A Dance of Dragons, Chapter 31, Melisandre I: "There was no one, even in her order, who had her skill at seeing the secrets half-revealed and half-concealed within the sacred flames. Yet now she could not even seem to find her king. I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow." (Italics are not mine, they are in the text as indicators that the dialogue is Mel is thinking)

The White Walkers have killed plenty of innocent people, though. Or at least good people, such as Karsi, just last episode. As for your second point, you really do hate Ned, don't you? He's not even in the action and he gets brought up. For the record, Ned refused to support Robert's plan to murder Daenerys, who is older than Shireen (both in the books and on the show), basically telling Robert that there was a line he was not willing to cross, not even for his King. So, I'd say that no, he wouldn't have supported Stannis after that.

From what I can see from reading and posting in that thread, it works as a "Spoiler Speculation" thread. Casting news, filming reports, set pics and BTS stuff are posted there all the time.

The weird thing is that it appears he's doing out of duty when he's talking to Shireen before he hands her over to Mel.

I think in the books, Stannis might send Melissandre a raven, letting her know that the situation has reached a point where he believes nothing but burning Shireen will do. That little girl's screams were heart breaking.

I thought Drogon took care of mot of the Harpies, so, Dany leaving didn't feel like she was abandoning her friends to an awful fate. I think the ones that remained at the pit had more than a fighting chance after Drogon burned Harpies left and right. Also, the Harpies freak me the fuck out. I think one of the best costume choices, and a grossly unappreciated one too, is the Harpies' masks. They are as chilling as the White Walkers.

Well, Brienne did promise to avenge Renly, so, I'm thinking she'll be the one that takes him out, after he wins the Battle of Winterfell

Holy fire, batman! That was intense!

I keep having visions of the movie Never Ending Story, which look so fake today. And with all the money they must have spent for Hardhome, yeah.... I thought it was dramatic. It was a decisive victory and showed Dany as a leader, beloved by her people. It had hints of what she could do if she went to Westeros. But now, considering how much time has passed, another scene of Dany surrounded by followers, doesn't pack the same punch, IMHO, off course. Mileage varies. And maybe the way they do it will be dramatic, I'll give them the benefit if the doubt and make up my mind when I see it. I will admit my Jon bias, which could be playing a part in how I feel about it. I just can't wait for Jon's story to continue to unfold and would love for the writers to amp up his story even more, so, there's that :)