DelicateDee

Your second paragraph is what I was going to reply to in the same manner. I don't know why Craig is being the whipping boy, more or less, when the other guys don't seem to be doing much either. Other than Austin trying to make something out of beer, just what do these other men do? Also I've been reading that Craig lies and that he admit it he was a liar, but I'll have to pay more attention because I don't remember him admitting to being a liar. Also what was the big lie? The only thing I can remember is the law school thing where he claimed that he finished law school or something but he didn't really at that time. Was that the big lie?

That could be true, but Naomi wasn't in an abusive situation, just a frustrating one. There was nothing shown to support abuse, as an earlier poster was suggesting.

Well, regarding Craig, I don't get where he was abusive, conniving or a master manipulater. He came across to me as just a guy who wasn't focused and lackadaisical. Naomi wanted him to be more driven, but he just wasn't there yet. Seeing that he did pass the bar, there must of been a side of him we didn't get to see on the show where he studied a lot because you don't pass the bar on reading cliff notes. Yeah, his house was unkempt, but that is a trait of most bachelors, plus he was in the process of doing some major remodeling of the space. Remember Shep`s place when he was the partying boy and Cameron went looking for him when he didn't show up for the house showing? His place was a complete mess. I guess after Cameron`s chastisement and a visit to the doctor where he was told he needed to cut down his drinking, he cleaned up his act a bit. Naomi kicked Craig to the curb, yet goes batshit crazy if he acts interested in any other female. That's not how a woman who some think might have been abused by him would act. Maybe Craig was suffering from the breakup blues and/or depression which could have also contributed to his slothiness. Every time Craig tried to talk to Naomi, post breakup, she kept dismissing him, yet it seems she was still looking for his attention. Despite their faults, I think they loved each other, but he just wasn't motivated enough for her.

Actually they all, except Carol, look pretty good this part of the season. I thought that Bethenny looked really good at the speed dating event, but I didn't think Mona though looked that great. She did look better in the previous episodes. I think Lu and Sonja lost a few pounds (they didn't need to lose too much to begin with) and are just glowing right now. Carol needs to add a few pounds, imho.

I think Sonja has been looking fab the past few episodes and she has been more enjoyable to watch. She's still off kilter and a loon, but she's been fun to watch recently. I got a kick out of her jumping up on the bed last episode and punching the air symbolizing her verbal clash with Dorinda. Girl looked like she actually knows how to throw a punch! She's much better when not stuck to Romoana.

This episode was fun to watch. It was a refreshing break from the drama of them fighting and hurting each other's feelings. I also think it was a little too much Luann though. Luann and Carol acting like best buddies all of a sudden is weird. That barista who serve them in the coffee shop was funny, standing there looking like he was hearing stuff he wasn't supposed to be hearing. I enjoyed watching the segment with the Dorinda was helping Luann find a dress. They had some gorgeous dresses in that store, although I'm not sure the ones Lou picked out were the most flattering on her. I mean she did look good in the dresses but I saw some more stylish ones on the rack. The Ramona blue was a funny flashback. I thought the speed dating segment was a hoot! Ramona just cracks me up. She for sure thought she was all that and a bag of chips. You just know she was green with envy because scarf guy was more interested in Bethany then her. Bethany doing the southern belle quip about Ramona was hilarious! Am rewatching.

I think it was he who was sticking to Beth. In any case, compared to those other guys . . .

Okay, the SK jeans look good on Sonja & Bethenny. I now want to try on a pair. OTOH, that 1st dress that Tinsley tried on and loved so much was awful. Was Carol really eating popcorn after just petting her cat and not washing her hands. Eeww! Speaking of jeans, she had on a pair in a style I never saw before. It looked like they took the look of a cuffed jean leg and attached the cuff look all the way up the leg. Andplusalso, what happened to Carol's butt? She no longer has one! Wasn't her butt her pride and glory in her 1st (2nd ?) season?

I think they look great in that commercial! Bethenny looks a lot better than usual and I think she looks pretty good on the regular. I had to do a double take to realize it was Bethenny.

Why presume she doesn't already know this? She was married to a rich guy and most likely knows the value of the bag (in relation to other LV bags). Heck, even commoners like me know this bag and what it cost, as very many people carry it. Even Kyle Richards, Lisa Vanderpump and Camille Grammar have sported this bag on their show. It's very popular, despite it being one of the "cheaper" bags they sell. For those of you who dont know (I'm sure there are a few), the LV Neverfull retails around $1200 - $1300 for the medium size one, which looks like the one that Sonja received. The good thing about it that might help Sonja out, is that the body of the bag could be wiped clean with a damp cloth. No need for a sharpie.

Sonja a fan fav? Not on these boards from what I`'ve read & am reading. She`s a hot, embarrassing mess and could be missed is what I'm getting. I think Tinsley put Sonja up in the penthouse with gifts (and ANY LV bag given would be the most generous of a friend to give) to get everyone off her back about not appreciating what Sonja did for her, even though she already showed great appreciation with the party she gave her and the $5,000 gift card. For the life of me, why Tinsley got grief over that is beyond me.

At the breakfast with Tinsley, after she told Tins about Adam being interested in another woman, she ended by calling him Adam "Unworthy", a play on his last name.

Yes it was the case. I followed both of the series of Bethenny Getting Married and B Ever After. Jason's parents seemed very mellow and nice at first, but then got the notion that B & Jason were obligated to trek to their home every weekend, a couple hours drive away. They got all pissy, and Jason as well, when B put her foot down and said no.

Yeah, at FIRST his family seemed normal and close, but as time went on, we saw how possessive they really were. To press for weekend visits EVERY weekend when they lived a 2 hour drive away and B wanted to just be with her husband & daughter some weekends and also to just chill at home as she was working crazy hours at that time. Then, if B & Jason didnt feel like driving to his parents home, the parents wanted come to B & J's place, not ever considering their need to bond with each other as a family. No, Jason's parents (and Jason also) were very inconsiderate of B's time with her husband and daughter. On this issue, Beth was right.

I dont know how y'all figured that Carole owned B in the argument.. 1st, as much as she claims that B wouldn't let her talk, Carole's the one that kept talking over. 2nd, when B corrected her on her assumptions i. e ., that she called Adam yet B said she didn't call Adam, then Carol said well emailed him or whatever, then Bethany said she didn't email him, Carol just kept waving off B's refutations. With Carol flapping her gums so much, we couldn't hear how B actually communicated with Adam cause Carole wouldn't let her speak. And Carol was telling Bethany to stop whining which I thought was a hoot. Because one thing Bethany doesn't do is whine, that's Carol jurisdiction. As someone above pointed out, Carol was spouting out a lot of words but not a lot of content.. I lost track of what Carol main beef with B was with all of the words she was saying. Heck I think Carol forgot what point she was trying to make. I must say though that I was surprised to see her get this explosive with B. If she was a real friend, she would have had the discussion in private. I think Bethany was taken aback only because Carol has never acted like this with her in front of everybody.

I just kept wondering why they didn't have any anti motion tablets like Dramamine on the boat so they could offer it to Kasey. I felt bad for her because seasickness is no joke. But then again, I don't know how she got this job having never been on a boat that actually leaves the harbor. Still, not ONE person brought any thing for seasickness? On another note, I'm not finding this crew interesting at all. There is no charisma amongst them, including Hannah, and then to start off with a bunch of low class, unfortunate looking ninnies that grated every nerve, made me not want to tune in to this season. The young bosun was slightly interesting & charismatic, Maybe because of his position at such a young age. Otherwise too much meh.

OMG! I was just recently playing this song on repeat and just when I finally get it out of my head, here you come with the comment! Lol! True though! ?? . . . She not only lost her 'Morgan', but she lost her Mind! At the 'Casa', 'Casa de Morgan' ??

Oh, O.K., Thanks!

I was actually enjoying Erica this episode. I thought she was a good host. Until she blindsided Teddi with the pretend amnesia shit. WTH?? I just wish Teddi would have blasted her and told her to go . . . (Fill in your fav stick it phrase). Come on Teddi, you can do it!

Each & every dress, except Kandi's, was hideous, in color and design. Nene's a little less so, probably looked better when she's standing but I didn't see her while standing.

He prob told her it was a Guchi and when she checked out the label, she was, yes, Guchi!

I thought it strange that a grown man would enter a married woman's bedroom with food for her and him and proceed to eat said food on her bed . Just where is Cameron's husband? These people are strange.

I didn't see anything wrong with Luann's outfit. She was trying to be Diana Ross. Is a white woman not supposed to dress up like a black woman entertainer? Is she only supposed to dress up as a white entertainer like Ramona, Tinsley and Dorinda did? Black people dress up as white popular figures all the time. Granted, Luann's outfit was a little tacky, I didn't think the idea of it was out of bounds. Dorinda's outfit was tacky as hell. First of all, half the dress was missing! But it was quite amusing, especially when the bubbles started falling off. By the time she was leaving, it looked like she only had a leotard on. I would not have guessed who Ramona was supposed to be if no one said it. I think Tinsley did early Madonna better than Ramona did Brittany Spears.

How was Bethany's comment about Sonya's bush anymore vulgar then when Sonia was actually getting that bush shaved off? There she was in that doctor's office, whatever kind of office, with her legs all spread open with the camera practically up there while she was getting "groomed". Not to mention her vag rejuvenation scene. UGH!

She has plenty of supporters. Myself included. I find Ramona much more unlike able although I don't really wish for her to get booted from the show. I I don't quite understand why Tinsley had to be reintroduced to New York Society and why she had to live with Sonia to accomplish that? Why couldn't she just get her own place from the jump? She obviously already had friends in the city, if I recall correctly. Wasn't that a friend of hers in the beginning of the season that that was pushing her Doggie in the remote control car? I also thought that whole discussion about showing her gratitude to Sonja with the present or with her time was ridiculous. I think that proved that Sonia is not a good friend. It seems that she does favors just to get rewarded and praised. (Wow, can't believe I got on these boards sooner than 12 pages in, LOL!) But maybe that's because most of y'all got bored with the 3rd part reunion and don't have much else to add.?