SometimesBites

That's a bummer, AngelaHunter. I still love watching, even when storylines or characters become a bit annoying. I dumped cable a long time ago, and this is the only show I purchase to stream. So I have to ask, and without the least bit of snark, only pure curiosity: what with life being so short and all, why would you watch something that feels like drudgery?

"and the losses of Hershel, Lizzie, Mika, Bob's Leg, Bob, Beth, Tyreese, Noah, and all the other redshirts." This tickled me overly much and led me chortling into a detailed litany of "Hershel's foot, Hershel, Hershel's head..."

I'll wager the little boy is Kody's younger brother Curtis (deceased).

Didn't Kody, Meri, and Janelle all live together when Janelle first joined them? My recollection was that the tension with Meri and her relentless domineering of Kody's attention caused Janelle to mostly stay in her room by herself when they were all home together.

Happy Thanksgiving, fellow snarkers! I don't drop in on the prayer closet nearly enough, but I do enjoy the mutual camaraderie. I do a slow roast turkey (24 hours) so I'm lying in bed, reading your posts, and smelling that glorious roasting turkey smell. All the pies are made (pumpkin, key lime, and chocolate bourbon pecan), the spuds are mashed, the dressing assembled...all that's left is to make the gravy and bake the broccoli souffle. God, I love this boliday! Love, smiles, and safe travels to all. xox

The exact chain of events with Janelle's addition to the family has never been made specifically clear. We do know Janelle was divorced about two years before she was spiritually married to Kody. As Meri's SIL, she certainly KNEW Meri and Kody while she was married to Adam Barber. She has told her "cute" story several times that when she met Meri and Kody she had no previous knowledge of polygamy, and that she referred to them as her little polygamous friends, as though they were a darling novelty. Assuming that Janelle purposely left Barber for Kody can only be pure speculation. I don't think Janelle was "bamboozled" into polygamy. I think she, among all the wives, may have the cleanest entry into the lifestyle because she had no exposure to it in her developmental years. She really chose it in a way the other wives didn't. And frankly, polygamous groups CLAIM that one of the wonderful parts of plural marriage for women is that they get to choose any man they want. Janelle did that--she followed that dictum. She wanted Kody, she pursued Kody, and Kody--terribly anxious to establish himself as a badass plyg husband--was amenable. Meri agreed to plural marriage when she married Kody, and if Kody was okay with taking on Janelle as second wife, Meri just had to bend--though she didn't have to like it (and obviously DIDN'T!)

Thank you for beating me to it! I had a dual reaction to this tweet: 1. So typically Kody Brown to assume that the question about the kids not choosing plural marriage is about HIS VALIDATION. 2. If the adults are convinced that plural marriage, no matter it's pain and sacrifice, is the way to attain the most desirable eternal outcome, how can they NOT be disappointed (or concerned, or sad, or worried) if the kids don't want to take that path? Don't get me wrong--I'm really glad that the Brown adults allow their adult kids to make that choice with no judgement. It just doesn't compute to me. If my religion said--and I wholeheartedly believed--that the ultimate path to the afterlife included eating black jelly beans every day, then I would feel deeply concerned if my own children rejected black jelly beans. (Gawd, I think I just concocted a really terrible religion!)

Yep. Robyn was already being "courted" when they got the green light on a reality tv show. They've said that Kody and Robyn would have been "married" much sooner, but when they got the show they chose to postpone for the sake of viewer interest. I think Christine got pregnant as a reaction to a fourth wife joining the family. She had a near life-threatening miscarriage prior to Truely's birth, and Janelle said that she was very surprised when she later learned Christine got pregnant again. Just like Meri telling "Sam" that she wanted to have his baby--they view baby-making as status glue.

Yeah, it's crystal clear that the legal marriage was essentially meaningless to Kody. And let's all pretend it was meaningless to Meri, too, mkay? The longer they stay on TV, the more obvious the deep faultlines in their lives become. The keep arrogantly chalking up any less-than-positive viewer reaction and perception as simply faulty perception of the truth; it would never occur to them that their show has acted as a clarifying lens, and that increased negative reaction is caused not by misperception, but by a closer understanding. I could stand over a huge subterranean ant colony and only see the comings and goings of a couple of ants at a time through a tiny hole. But if a miniature camera was threaded down into the chambers of the colony, I would gain a much more nuanced understanding of colony life. I don't have to be an ant to observe and draw reasonable conclusions about life in an ant colony. "Massive bipedal vertebrates can never truly understand the blessings of subterranean colony life," said a sister of the Queen. "Their paradigm is too different from ours. No matter what the camera reveals, they are constitutionally incapable of understanding us."

That actually sounds exactly like what the Browns did. Of course, in their world it doesn't matter what REALLY took place; they want it to be an adoption, therefore it is an adoption. They wanted to live in Vegas, therefore they were forced to"flee" Utah. Robyn wants Kody to be her original de-flowerer and the actual father of her pre-existing children, so poof! It is so.

My takeaway of the season wrap-up: 1. They have serious, obvious, ongoing interpersonal troubles, and virtually all of those troubles can be traced directly to the pitfalls of polygamy. 2. All criticisms from viewers are blamed on the viewers' inability to comprehend the uber-unique, extra-specialness of polygamy--disagreeing with their choices is proof that the disagreement is simply viewer ignorance. 3. Meri didn't CHEAT on her relationship--she was hoodwinked. The banana photo, the I'm-laying-in-bed photo, the see-my-nipples photo, the my-feet-in-a-bathtub photo, and the I-like-to-gouge-myself photo were all COERCED out of her. She had no choice but to keep it kinky TO SAVE THE FAMILY. All her recorded and written declarations of love were the catfisher's idea, and she went along because SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN. I will give them this: every season I think the bullshit is as thick as it can get, and every season they manage to get it laid thicker.

Yeah, don't forget the fat cigarette clamped in her teeth at a jaunty FDR angle, sans Roosevelt's elegant holder. Keepin it classy, JO! *shudder

I haven't watched yet (and may never watch again...). So, Janelle really said that monogamists are more narrow-minded than polygamists? Wow. Just as their tweets indicate, they have internalized the idea that any disagreement with what they do equates to ignorance, narrow-mindedness, and undeserved hostility. In the Brown's world, strongly differing opinions apparently never have any merit or legitimacy--which sort of flies in the face of their occasional yapping on social media that "we're not perfect, but we..." (fill in empty platitude here: we love each other, we support each other, etc.).

Sick and twisted bitch. She needs a huge ass-kicking. You can't keep hitting the hornet's nest forever, though. The public knows too much about her, and the public will eat her alive due to her inability to STFU.

With Meri's abortive defection now so baldly on display (a defection that would not have been a factor if polygamy was working for her), supporting Mariah in the pursuit of polygamy would be outrageous mothering. Not that I don't think she'll go there.

If they were a village, you'd never have to ask where the village idiot was.

Trust me: Their book was ghostwritten. I absolutely buy that each of the adults told her/his own parts to the writer without input or foreknowledge of what the others said; that's why the book tends to be far more candid than the show EVER has. But the book has a strongly consistent voice between the multiple narratives. Even with a great editor to correct their atrocious spelling and grammar, there is no way Kody has the ability necessary to weave their story together in a strongly coherent way, with a personal yet dispassionate voice. I don't know how much the ghostwriter was paid, but she or he earned every last dime--I can only imagine what sort of long-winded, rambling,egotistical, and near-incomprehensible bullshit had to be waded through and sorted out to create a sense of clear continuity on the page.

Now see, this is a plot turn that would make the SW ratings soar. Can someone send the Browns on a road trip to visit your friend--STAT?

Exactly. In the real world gorgeous young millionaires don't pursue older, average-looking, overweight, entangled women. The Bridget Jones phenomenon is largely a Hollywood/romance novel construct. In real life, those guys primarily choose single, young, and gorgeous--because they can. It's not a slam on Meri; it's just the way the world works. The handsome young millionaires aren't ever going to choose me, either. That doesn't mean I'm Quasimodo--it just means I'm playing in a different league. For Meri to throw herself so totally into this quagmire of bullshit is evidence of the hole in her life.But the "I want to have your baby" thing is deeply disturbing to me. Meri knows fucking well that she's not only infertile, but too old to be making babies anyway. What a sick indication of the emotional gravity their little clan places on baby-having as the ultimate demonstration of romantic fealty.

Kody wanted some special jacket--a letterman's jacket maybe??--and his dad gave him the coveralls in a box from the store that sold said coveted jacket. Kody thought he was getting what he wanted at first, then was terribly disappointed. A dickish move on his dad's part, to be sure, but you know...cry me a river.Finding out the thing in the pretty package is not what you thought it was when you get it unwrapped is the story of his wives' lives.

Had my second watch tonight, and realized that the two female walkers they discovered were supposed to be encased in melted glass from the greenhouse when the fire. That's why there's a serious crunch of broken glass when diabetic girl trips and falls.

Yes. She who can rise to the occasion. Whether you need a tuna cassarole of condolence, a children's lesson in knife wielding, or full-assault guerrilla rescue from cannibals, Carol Peltier is your Renaissance Woman of the Zombie Apocalypse. ...and knowing clock time in this world is a crucial survival skill.

Couldn't the various sects--including the Browns--choose to adopt the garments if it fit the tenets they set for themselves? It seems to me that any religion, no matter how miniscule a splinter group it might be, can create a smorgasboard of practices. I don't know if the.Browns do wear or ever have worn garments, but it's plausible they may have carried the tradition over from their LDS roots--especially in the pre-TLC days when they were still going through the motions of adherence.

My guess is that she's planning to self publish via Amazon and/or one of the other e-publishing platforms, OR she's found a vanity publisher-- there are a couple of them that promise the moon, suck up your money, and deliver little to nothing, other than delivering big piles of books that can't be sold except maybe out of the trunk of her car. I'm truly hoping for the latter!!

I just went to not batman yet. Sweet weeping baby moses. First of all, this header: "I have a publisher lined up. I’m currently looking for an Editor to help me write this book. Any help would be appreciated. Email me at Samuel@notbatmanyet.com The book does not have a working title yet but it will be released on March 1, 2016! I’m excited to share …" Everything about this cracks me up. I'm a writer, "Sam." It doesn't work this way. You don't "line up" a publisher like hiring a caterer. First, you go through the grueling process of querying agents. If you're lucky enough to get representation, and if your agent was actually able to interest a publisher in this silly bit of trivial bullshit, the publishing house would have editors to work with you on your FULLY-WRITTEN book. News flash, sport: editors don't help you write the book. Finally, the wheels of traditional publishing grind exceedingly slowly. NO ONE gets a publication date just a couple of months away, on an as-yet unwritten book. It so ludicrous it's funny. IF Overton is actually writing some sort of fantasy tell-all as Samuel Cooper,she is definitely publishing it heself. Nothing wrong with indie publishing per se, but yes, she is in deep need of an editor (she capitalizes random nouns a lot, for one thing), and the good ones are pricey. All the schoolgirl notes and silly PG13 photos in the world do not a NYT bestseller make. They're already on the website, and other than a wee bit of random viewer curiosity they are a yawnfest. My serious hope is that she's hooked up with one of the predatory vanity presses out there, and is currently bent over for a royal hosing. It would be sweet, sweet karma to see Oveton reamed, scammed out of wads of cash, then sued by TLC.