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Loved this season! I binged! I didn't realize as a 30 something woman how much I would love a teenage show among the cliche teenage angst and romance. But maybe because it's not just for teenagers but also explore adult relationships among the teenagers. Everyone had a story and was well developed among each other. It went deeper and more meaningful with the themes were season 1 left off. And of course with the triangle, they are all really likable, both guys. I think Devi should have chosen herself and in the end she would choose at the end of the series who is best for her. I am TeamBen but I don't think Paxton is a bad guy, but they all have issues to work through and this is teenagers so of course they are very heart shape romantics! But Ben at the end was sooooo angst! And I'm here for it! Season 3 please!

I enjoyed this episode but if we are doing a comparison with Ben's from season 1...I enjoyed Ben's a little bit more. I think I ended up relating more to Ben's loneliness than to Paxton's expectations of just being a pretty. boy/good athlete. I also thought Ben's ended up being a little more emotional with the parents relationship but understand Paxton's parents were def strange. I also think Ben was known a little more to audiences by then, I wonder if Paxton's episode should have been later in the season. But I enjoyed getting to know him more, and I do enjoy that is has deep moments among the teenage craziness!

I like your take on Hayden. Getting back into the SW fandom, I almost forgot about him. Lucas for sure did him no favors and he didn't play Anakin with any kind of dynamic....not to make any comparison but I see Kylo being a similar character with conflict and confusion but it works better -and not sure if it's because of Adam Driver or if because Kylo/Ben is older. I do think this helped showcase Adam more and because he has so many recent projects, it really has elevated him. He would do fine without SW but it has given him a boost (though I suspect Adam embraces the SW attachment but he's not here for the forever of it and would like to be known for more than just that) Daisy I think will be fine but she will always be Rey and that's ok. She might need a few really amazing movies to get away from that but anyone who is in SW will always be star wars first and foremost. But I think she will always embrace Rey and would never want to run from it. Oscar Issac was always doing good things before this and he will do good things after. I think SW helped him but he was well received before it. John is an interesting one. I could see him doing good things but not a breakout star like the others. It will be interesting to see who in 10 years what these 3 looks like. I suspect Adam will do the best of the three. Heck, he could have all the awards this year for "Marriage Story".

Wow excellent points. Actually all you guys are nailing both the strengths and weaknesses of these last 3 films. I personally thought Kylo/Ben was one of the best elements (if not THE BEST) of the last 3 films but that's mainly because his character seemed to be the most conflicted and fleshed out, as opposed to others like Finn and Poe that either had alot to do or nothing. And yes, Driver clearly made his commitment to both sides and that's what sold it for me. He seemed to be very "method" in the fact that he became these people as he was filming, therefore that's why you see him do so well to change into Ben, and even worked with Ford to get it "right." He committed and you have to give him all the props. At the same time, I think he looked it as a new experience to grow as an actor and doesn't want to really do more than that. But I really hope he does a fun skit in SNL with Star Wars but maybe not. The Undercover Boss SNL skit as "Matt" is one the best things SNL has done in the last 10 years. I have to do a re-watch of all 3 to see the progression. Personally I really liked TLJ because Rey and Kylo had a story that you could understand. To me, that was the one thing they brought to this film as opposed to alot of other stuff that they didn't. I personally see the romantic connection to Rey and I think it was fan service to have them kiss but goodness gracious was Adam spectacular with the longing and finally, that smile. But again totally opinion on my part that it worked for me. In conclusion, more Ben please.

I woke up at 8a so I could catch it and not be spoiled. Saw in the Dolby audio theater and that was awesome! Def a way to experience everything going on with the sound and the clarity. I was disappointed that critics didn't like it very much so I went in thinking it wasn't going to be that great and really, I thought it was weaker from a storyline perspective but I did very much enjoy the fight scenes and particularly Oscar, Adam and Daisy were all very good in my point of view. I def thought it jumped too much around and the dialogue was a bit cringe but it's Star Wars so I think they do get away with some things. It was a fun ride and I'm glad i saw it in the theater. I always think Star Wars is best on a big screen with great sound. I def agree also that was a big service to the fans esp with the Kylo and Rey stuff at the end, but I didn't mind that since Adam is such a great actor and his move from the dark to the light was well done (and 100% agree wish we saw more Ben).

Just watched Season 4. I thought Episode 5 was the best of the whole season. I liked the way they set up the alternative reality and John living in it, and realizing what a life he did have and oh goodness all the emotions on his face. There were times when Rufus didn't say much but dang does he know how to scowl and just pause in the moment. Episode 9 was a ride too but it didn't have the same emotional impact for me because it was basically John Smith being badass and yeah, awesome but also kinda sad because even then when hen had the power, he still was committed to the very worst of humanity. I know there was no real redemption for John hence why he did what he did, but I wish he was able to realize that he didn't have to destroy even MORE to stay where he was. His excuse to Helen about how he didn't know how to stop seemed a bit, I don't know, easy? Like yeah he was the leader of the party and could have. But I knew in the end John and Helen would not be redeemed because they didn't deserve it, not in that world. Some of the storylines didn't do a whole lot for me and I basically enjoyed the Smith family the most and John (Rufus was the MVP for sure) but Chantel (Helen) was amazing beside him. Well done Season 4.

Haha so true! They are only like 20 minutes apart!! LOL!

I'll be curious how this guy adjusts to Colchester. It's super rural! And he's actually quite attractive but cuter with shorter hair, haha! And yes, who takes 2 months off?! She doesn't really work??

I'm just a phone call away.... I'm gonna be really busy I appreciate Tom's snark all the way None of these people are really together. Ladies get in line for Jeremy, I'm first! LOL!!

did not need the setup....that was such filler.

omg two people are from CT on this show next season!!! My state representing! LOL!

we had a good day! So we are meant to be together. These people think in minutes and seconds, not in weeks, months.

let's see where I stand with marriage with Evelyn. She told you. MANY TIMES. NO

Good point. Like them being "late" wasn't producer driven.

Florian is NOT hot, gosh all these people just catfish each other. It's kinda really hilarious how desperate everyone is. And yes, let me change my last minute plans and rebook everything. I'm with Tom, I would not appreciate any of this. Compromise my butt.