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Plus, Clayyun is so ham-handed bringing it up. Why didn't he just "get serious" in the conversation and ask her directly if she could see them engaged at the end of this "process"? It's typical bachelor dinner conversation. Then, depending on her reaction, he could bring up her age or her doubts. Then as a third tack bring up the comment by another contestant. I noticed sobbing Sarah said she would of course get engaged if she really wanted to, or something like that — her get-out-of-jail (engagement) card... As for Croatia, Dubrovnik is on my bucket list — it is gorgeous. That said, no way did any of those women think "Croatia" when told they were going to the most romantic place.

I really hate it when older contestants claim younger contestants aren't "ready for marriage." Who made her the marriage police? 23 isn't THAT young, she's not 17! I got married at 23. We're still married now, 38 years later. Mara is turning bitter, like that "my eggs are rotting" weirdo in one of the earliest seasons. Just because you haven't found your person yet doesn't mean a 23-year-old can't. The idea that a woman gets better with age is true (hehehe) but it doesn't mean they will match better with some rando bachelor dude, one that's not all that bright or mature to begin with. Besides that, how gullible is Clayton not to get that's where Mara is coming from? So what if Sarah said weeks ago that she couldn't see herself engaged yet. That doesn't mean she can't change her mind if/when she falls in love. Women do feel different things at different points, as evidenced by Shanaenae saying Genevieve is an "actress" because she was so bummed out by the 2-on-1 date she briefly considered the possibility of leaving. I want to say Clayton caught onto that obvious possibility, but I think he left to talk to production and get permission to dump Shrimpy.

LOL, I know. Reminds me of getting the Space Needle in shots of Seattle. I visited the CN tower, rode up the elevator... I remember the lobby being much like old World's Fair things in Seattle -- kind of run-down. I was in Toronto during winter. I loved the underground shopping mall that went for miles... They sure did make the city sound exotic. Are they on Maid of the Mist, or another ferry? I didn't see it mentioned, or any signs.

I agree. It's almost expected now, as some great indicator of the lead being sadz, upset, emoting, whatever. Talk about a bunch of divas!

Was Elizabeth in the hot tub? I just thought it was weird for Shanae to copy Elizabeth. Why not make something different? Why compete in cooking at all? It's just so random. As for why no one spoke to her, it's because she's toxic.

I agree. I was GLAD Elizabeth got sent home. She can do so much better than Clay-un. Situations like a U.S. citizen repping Haiti in the Olympics comes about when an athlete fails to make the highly competitive, top-medaling U.S. Track & Field team. And gets her to the Olympics anyway. There were only 5 athletes repping Haiti in 2012, and Marlene didn't qualify after her heat (compared to 540 U.S. athletes attending.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics I know everyone (but me) loves football, but I hate seeing the hitting and tackling. Yuck. Not any better than the stupid brutal boxing dates for both sexes. I ignored it and went for a snack.

I know, right? It's miles apart. Bachelor casting is so off lately — they have this idea of a great bachelor being this super-bland Chad type of All-American guy, with a square face, blondish, hunky, sporty, and dull dull dull. No wonder the host — a former contestant — looks just like the lead.

Interesting! I don't remember Rock of Love well (yes, I watched it, too!), but my husband walked in the room and said, "That one looks older, the one who looks like Sharon Stone." I rewound to see her again, and her age. She probably is the oldest at 32. And I can see the resemblance to Sharon Stone.

Oh, I know. I'm just tired of her already. A real therapist would have made much more sense. Becca showing up was stupid, too. I'm sure ABC has both of them under contract for these appearances. Speaking of Becca, she's OK, but I rolled my eyes at Clayton introducing her as someone who found love in her journey or whatnot. Yeah, after years and a different show! Assuming she sticks with the guy she found on BIP. And making them be in their underwear -- clearly chosen for them -- was just stupid. Why does this show do so many annoying things? We used to have winery dates and hayrides... I went to a Van Gogh immersive exhibit recently -- by the other company doing them. It was awesome, and a great setting for a date, so that's one good thing by the show.

Katlyn AGAIN?? Does she have to insert herself into everything? Sad date, but better than boxing or other fight dates, which I hate. The question was what would you improve about yourself, not what hurt you the most when you were a kid. Their answers reminded me of job interviewees who say their biggest flaw is being too focused on the job. Flaws are things like being too impatient, a procrastinator, caring too much what other people think, being afraid to leave your comfort zone, talking too much, etc. Not being sad about your lack of a toned midsection....eh. Shanie loves her beeyatch role. Too bad clayton is dumb enough to believe her. Why didn't he start asking ALL the women about it, not just the 2 supposed bullies? I hate that in a guy. I'm just so much more into Joe Millionaire this season. The 2 guys there seem so real compared to Clayton, and it's much more fun. They felt it was nuts to kiss 2 women in one evening, after numerous dates, too. A breath of fresh air compared to Clayton and past bachelors who mack on all the women within minutes of each other. Having 2 guys talk about what they're going through is a great idea, like a live-in Chris Harrison. And with only 17 women to start, I know who they all are.

So distracting. I hate having former contestants be the hosts. I hate having two hosts. I wouldn't confide in either one if I was on the show. They tend to draw attention from the star, too. I get why she took off, but it was pretty unprofessional, the entire sequence.

This show has gotten so boring. I've seen every season, but am fast-forwarding through this one. part of it is probably the hosts. Can't stand them. Sooo awkward. All the social media influencer crap has really drained the show of its power, too. Maybe it's time for it to die. (I never thought I'd feel that way.) I don't even remember who Clayton is, and I just watched this season! How sad is that? Too many generic people being cast. Yawn.

OMG, I caught up just in time, finished bingeing on Netflix a couple of days ago. This was amazing. So creepy, complete with classic horror references. And there are four more Rivervale's? I'm so in. I already thought of Riverdale as a shadow/alternate reality place compared to our own, but this is next level. "She who walks among the trees" is a Children of the Corn reference ("He who walks among the rows"). The sacrifice of the man felt a lot like the pagan celebration depicted in Harvest Home and Wicker Man. The bugs -- ugh the bugs! -- gave me the itches. But Jug, you need to wash new sheets before you use them. Chemicals can make you itch. I too wondered if Cheryl brainwashed everyone — she seemed to be handing out potions and mixtures right and left. Hurry up and give us Sabrina! I'm down with the magic. Figures Veronica would be materialistic enough to want to have sex on a pile of money. (All I could think of was ew, germs.) Only in Rivervale could you "declare" yourself a sovereign nation and have it actually stick. Idiots have tried that, but nope -- you are still liable for property taxes and contributing to the government that supports us. I felt bad for the baby maples, but they didn't look dead -- replant them! Whoever's daughters those are need to rescue their children from Cheryl's bizarro clutches...

I also actually learned about the town-money scheme for the first time (and I live in Oregon!), but I really don't get Veronica opening a high-end jewelry store in a dying town. That makes NO economic sense.

Veronica and Archie sure didn't last long, considering how anxious he was for her to get divorced. Makes them both seem pretty foolish. Not sad about Barchie, though. Veronica fits much better with Reggie. They think alike, and have the same moral compass. Jughead is cute with his new love interest -- so glad he get off the sauce and SHAVED. He was looking so gross there at the start of the season, which fit with where his character was. Sounds like Cheryl's ancestor really was a witch -- I hope that's because of Sabrina coming over to Riverdale. I loved that show, though it got silly toward the end. The whole "incorporate Riverdale" thing is so weird. They acted like it would no longer be called Riverdale if it wasn't incorporated. There are tons of small unincorporated towns on the map. Here (in italics) are the unincorporated towns in my state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_and_unincorporated_communities_in_Oregon That's where the county comes in. I get that Hiram had the governor in his pocket (which begs the question of how many terms this state's governor is allowed to serve, since 7 years went by!). But what about the county commissioners? That's who's in charge of unincorporated areas of the county. Riverdale really does exist in an alternate reality.

I just find the show's cultural references entertaining, if strange choices, like Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme. Er, Finch or Flake or whatever. She should have been a redhead. When they were revealing the creepy inbred family's motive, I was bracing for "breeding". Even this nutty show didn't go there. It would explain why they tossed the kid back.

Infidelity isn't an issue in divorce anymore. But V told A this week that they're waiting for the divorce to be final, which takes 6 months, when last week the deadline was for Chad to sign (and the papers to be filed, which is when the 6-month countdown begins). Dumb writing.

This show was maddening. I can't imagine worse parents. While I know that's part of the plot, I also am reaching my limit in tolerance. Finally the wife decided to do the right thing by her kids and take them back to the U.S., away from the cartel, but son went off alone -- AGAIN -- and dad had to break him out of a Mexican jail. I hate the lead character, and am just waiting for the kids to get away from his toxic parenting. The daughter's summary on the playa was so right on, but nothing came of it. Julian as a fake name helps confirm my suspicions that Dad did something similar to Julian Assange, except perhaps he sold the national security secrets instead of posting them on the internet, because money is apparently no object (a foreign entity paid him). Just like the famous FBI criminal Robert Hansen. Or he sold his algorithm, which — developed under salary at the NSA — is the government's property. This is why the NSA is after him, and not some other government entity. I could see his wife also committing a crime like stated above, some terrorist attack that resulted in someone's death, but I see the father as the main criminal being sought. I just want to see the egomaniac arrested.

I did not know about the Nicholson connection. See, watching this show increased my general knowledge of Hollywood! It was entertaining, just don't look too closely. I too was really puzzled by those individual challenges -- was Bishop funding it all out of his allowance? Where do you order up two dozen sewer rats?

I was hoping someone would do the math on that. I missed how often they paid and how large the graduating class was. Ridiculous, isn't it?

I know!! He has crinkles around his eyes. I thought he was a town lowlife who hung with kids at first, not one of them. Mindless entertainment with huge plotholes. Such as why the cops don't stake out the granary once the female cop figured out the location. How cops can't see or hear huge, loud, well-lit parties in a small town with limited venues. And why teens equipped with smartphones don't use them to navigate out of a cornfield to a house. And why Main Girl didn't explore the underground shelter immediately instead of banging on the closed cover. And why Main Girl didn't keep her money in a bank, when she says later she has $17 in her account, and she plans to become an accountant. Just a plot device so Mom can steal it. Or does she think the registrar's office accepts cash? Why does no one seem to know who the New Guy is when he's been there for a year? As a classmate? In a small school? For a full year? And why does he look like he's 29? Oh, because he is. Finally, the town looks too nice to be a dead-end crap/carp town. Even the mobile home park is neat and tidy. Main Girl's mom still does housework. There are pretty lights in town and busy open businesses, not a half‐boarded up Main Street. The motor lodge is clean, neat and modern, not a crappy Notell Motel. Where's the meth house? I just don't see rundown rural America here.

The Bible-thumping in the latest episode (couple on beach shot by man with mental problems) was so overbearing. OK, they were a Christian couple, but that turned out to have nothing at all to do with the crime, despite heavy promotion to the contrary (devil images in the "driftwood inn" on the beach! Oh, noes!). Then for a second toward the end, we're shown a sign stating "no camping" on the beach. No mention that the couple was doing exactly that. Of course, it's no excuse or reason for being victims, it's just an odd thing to show, but ignore verbally. Gee, it's nice the murders brought the church-goers together.... 😛 ETA, the killer thought of them as "vagrants", probably because there's no camping on the beach. Plus, their car bothered him. The start of the episode made it sound like it was parked strangely...possibly illegally? No one else drove it, however.

I agree. The crazy kids statement was so puzzling, because they're both so damned boring. And she said Matt "prayed over them," like he was blessing them, or exorcising demons or something, when he was actually leading a group prayer. Weird.

Pottery teacher: "Your fingers are going to go in the hole..." Rachel voice over: "The thought of him being intimate with another woman just makes it so hard..." OMG, editors.

Not quite finished, but thought I'd throw down a thought or two. Rachel has it bad for Matt. Ridiculous, but there you have it. That shirt she was wearing on her date looked like she pulled it out of a bin at the thrift shop. But she HAD to show off her belly-button ring, so that required a certain shirt, I guess. Cringey moments with his dad. I really don't want to know/don't care. The butter massage was so super cringey and wasteful. Hubby didn't want to be in the same room with it (we knew it was coming from Kimmel). They give a camping date to a girl who hates camping. Nice, show. And there's no rhyme or reason to it except wasting time — they don't even stay until dark, when there's making out by firelight under the stars and smores, the best part of camping. They really need to pick people who have wit. This show is sooooooo booooorring!