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Part 3 of the timeline https://old.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/pltig7/part_2_erika_jayne_for_dummies_timeline_for_s9_s10/

For anyone harboring any doubts as to Erika's culpability - or at the very least something that puts everything that was happening in a real timeline - including linking to when stuff was being filmed in several seasons, someone on Reddit did an incredible job Well worth reading Part 2 of the timeline https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/pltig7/part_2_erika_jayne_for_dummies_timeline_for_s9_s10/

If there is a judgment and she doesn’t pay, they would be able to garnish her wages and place liens on all of her assets such as bank accounts.

If they are emanating from Erika's camp, I would imagine that she is giving herself the ability to go either way. I don't think she would go willingly because she needs the money and exposure. I know we have been down this route before but I can't think of a single housewife who wasn't actually wealthy who left of her own volition - Betheny, Heather Dubrow, Adrienne Malouf, Heather Thomson. All had their f-you money so they didn't need the show. I think Carole Radziwill also left because it had become toxic and what did she need it for?

If one gives credence to current gossip, Erika is on the outs with all of the housewives and feels that Andy is the only one who is her supporter. I don't watch WWHL often but did happen to watch a show a few months ago when he had various of the bloggers on and he was truly shocked when they all thought Erika was vile. I don't think he was faking his shock and this was after the Hulu documentary and so much additional damning information had come out. The recapper for New York Magazine/Vulture is Brian Moylan who also wrote her memoirs. His recaps also are a very sympathetic to Erika - he is vile as well. The comments though are worth reading. Moylan is a witty writer so the recaps themselves are interesting as a showcase of how someone can get their moral compass completely twisted. One wonders what Moylan's motivation is - money in terms of writing her next memoir? To my knowledge not even Mikey is on social media currently defending her. There seems to be radio silence from him

I don't watch DWTS but I am not surprised that she wasn't a good dancer. Her act was completely choreographed in order to hide her lack of grace and dancing ability - to get people to focus on the actual background dancers and have her perform relatively simple moves. It's pretty standard to do this kind of choreography when the "performer" can't really dance especially when they can't sing. I mean no one expected Streisand to do anything but sing and not put on a spectacle. I never saw Celine Dion but I don't think she danced around.

In fairness if you go to a specific designer you would be limited to that designer and Kleinfelds does carry some of the higher end designers. But I think the more sophisticated brides are probably visiting the ateliers of designers whose designs they have liked in magazines. Some years ago there was a series in the Amsale boutique and those designs were lovely but seemed very much appealing to a certain taste. They were almost the antithesis of what Pnina was showing at the time.

The economics of scale don't work for Chris to be providing private cooking classes. Cooking vlogs work because they users aren't paying for content but the content providers rely on revenue streams based on viewership. He could also do an onlyfans type of cooking channel in which he supplies all kinds of food related content for a monthly subscription fee. I am not sure why he doesn't want to monetize and attempt to build his food brand. It is not like a chef in a restaurant is a particularly lucrative job and it is grueling work as well. Chefs would kill to have the potential social media presence of Chris as a way to promote their cookbooks and social media sites.

I agree that this business model is weird for a chef like Chris who is hardly a Bobby Flay or even one of the participants on Top Chef who lost. I didn't follow him closely but I assumed by lessons he was taking the route of vlogging like many people do. It has launched many of them to relatively fame in the food world with cookbook deals and appearances. Also monetizing social media is a real income stream and Chris and Candiace would have a built in way to get eyes on his lessons or showcases. What a missed opportunity. Why would I pay any amount of money for a cooking lesson from Chris - I mean he is obviously a competent chef but the only thing that sets him apart is his relationship with Candiace and thus his being featured on the show.

It would be inconceivable that any bride in real life actually had not studied bridal magazines. The only scenario I could imagine is that a bride actually could get an f about the dress but just needed something to wear. But they wouldn't wind up at Kleinfelds. I had a friend who went to Davids and got a nice off the rack dress for under $500 and another who got married in a pretty non-bridal dress at a restaurant where they had booked a private room.

I have Netflix and Hulu. Also amazon prime because it comes with my subscription and HBO Max/Showtime because they are part of my building's package so I pay about $50 for cable plus the premiums and high speed cable internet. I held off on Hulu because I thought I didn't need it but it has some good stuff. I am watching the newest original Only Murders In The Building. Mrs. America was also quite good. And they also have a lot of great old series - besides MTM, Will & Grace, I have also rewatched ER and NYPD Blue - both of which really held up quite well. I have dipped into some other series like Golden Girls. Hulu also runs a lot of programming the next day so if you don't have basic cable or a DVR you can watch the stuff without ads.

From watching too many Datelines, one thing I have learned is that if you tell the truth, you won't slip up because you don't have to remember what you made up. 🤣

This tread essentially exists to pass judgment on people who appear on HH. We snark on the all kinds of different ways people do idiotic things. There have been prior episodes of HH in which HH were snarked on because the couple - typically the decision of the wife FWIW - had chosen to defer buying a home in favor of a large wedding. Why suddenly is this sacrosanct as a topic to snark on?

If the choice is to spend money for a one night party or use the money for something that will benefit your long term economic stability, I would say they are economic morons to opt for a wedding in lieu of a down payment. That kind of thinking is why most Americans are one paycheck away from economic disaster and a $500 unexpected bill would be an issue.

He Gok dresses were underwhelming this week. And HELEN the bride would have been better off spending her money on a better wig and some dental work. It wasn’t just the front gap but it appeared she might be missing teeth in the back. And if her budget was unlimited, why was she being shown the sake relatively inexpensive dresses that everyone else is shown. At Kleinfelds they are shown some truly fabulous stuff when the budget is high. Yes you can find a lovely dress on a more modest budget and money doesn’t necessarily mean the dress is beautiful, but a high budget does enable one to pick from the higher end designers who use more beautiful materials and often have better designs.

Seems to be the same route her cheerleader Rinna takes - some of her choice insults on social media: "I'm convinced that the haters/trolls are all fat hoarders with 50 cats." "With no teeth, and they couldn't find their vagina if they tried." "Well all you nasty people need to go." "So get the f**k off my page. Now." "Meow." "I'm going for it. I got nothing to lose you sick f**ks."

Hulu has all of the housewives. I subscribe to the ad free version and there is some other good programs that I have discovered - not to mention being able to dip into vintage sitcoms like Mary Tyler Moore and Will & Grace.

Given the constraints of budget and location it seemed to be the best of a bad lot. When all of the choices are so terrible I often wonder if those are really all that were available. I would assume that it can always be rented to students as it looked about the same as a lot of my college and grad rentals were. Of course I went to school in the dark ages where students had pretty low expectations of what kind of places we would be living in. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I wouldn't be surprised if Robb had no issues with working with sexual predators because he himself was one - albeit not on Weinstein levels. I worked in the industry and it was rampant because the reality is that even the behind the scenes jobs are sought after so people - woman and also gay men - will have to put up with it because if they don't like it, 100 other people will be in line to take the job. There is no way that a 38 year old men who doesn't have issues has a *normal* relationship with a 17 year old. My best friend was a guy who was an incredible playboy and I remember his telling me that he dated an 18 year old when he was in his 30's and he felt like he was dealing with Bambi. That was a bridge too far for him. I think the whole issue of power and control is really what drives it since you can have arm candy with a 25 year old and by that age, the woman might still be younger but they have formed into a more or less adult brain. It's the same reason why a lot of powerful and rich men hire escorts because it simplifies the relationship - the escort is paid her $2000 per night or whatever and she is subservient.

At least in the Los Angeles neighborhoods I am familiar with, they haven't aged all that well as the ones that are currently on the market have had to reduce prices versus ones that are more traditionally styled. I think the more traditional/modern farmhouse/Arts & Crafts will age well because they are the equivalent of the little black dress. A bit boring but it can be worn for years versus a polyester leisure suit in earth tones. I don't think anyone is ever going to revive Tuscan kitchens There are obviously going to be exceptions which are designed by talented architects but as a whole a banal "traditional" home is going to age better than one of the ultra modern homes that were put up by a spec developer.

She might be dabbing her eyes with a caustic substance.

Does Erika seriously think she can actually maneuver and lie her way out of this. She must have known at this point that she was well and fully screwed. What is her end game because it is not as if she actually wants these women as emotional support. They only exist insofar as she can use the show as a way to defend herself or so she thought. Her stance is so utterly ridiculous when examined. All of the posturing and protestations of innocence are not going to prevent the Trustee from clawing back the $28 million Girardi paid into the LLC. It doesn’t matter legally whether she knew what was going on in the firm because it was stolen money and she can’t hide behind the legal fiction of it being a corporate liability and nit her personal liability. Nor can she claim any of these gifts are not part of the community property and therefore subject to the claims of creditors which includes all of the victims of his scams. Someone posted a question to Andy to ask Kyle at the reunion. What if Tom had broken into her house and stolen all the handbags and jewelry and given them to Erika. Would Kyie be okay if Erika kept them because the stolen stuff was a gift from Tom? 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😂

My brain is a bit frazzled - was it the Pittsburg house that had the super modern looking house that looked like galvanized tin? I don't have anything against modern construction so long as it is well done but that house wasn't particularly well designed - at least in my opinion. My friend and I discuss this quite a bit because we live in a part of Los Angeles where the land is quite valuable and the original houses were fairly modest homes so all of the homes sold are essentially tear downs - the only exceptions being Spanish Colonial homes because people really love those big old homes. About a decade ago they started putting up those ultra modern homes and they haven't really aged well in terms of desirability - not to mention really clashing with the other homes in the area. Several years ago the trend shifted to what I call Leave It To Beaver style homes on steroid. Some are very elegant "modern farmhouse" in style. The interiors are very much in line with what an affluent family would like but - no shade - they are much more livable and comfortable than the starkly modern homes. Again, the really well designed mid century modern homes are quite comfortable to live in as they took into account how people actually live in their homes. The very ultra modern stuff - not so much - at least in terms of the not very well designed spec homes.

The Pittsburgh row houses were built for a "better" class of people than the row houses viewed in some of the earlier episodes. These had the width of normal houses but just were either attached or built very close to each other as is true of many urban neighborhoods. The same is true in Washington D.C. for example. There are the neighborhoods with very narrow row homes that were built for the poor and working classes originally. My friends bought their starter home in Adams Morgan when it was starting to gentrify and it was a narrow town house. But Washington also has extremely beautiful but attached town homes just like London and New York has elegant attached town houses.

Haley Page lost her wedding dress company as she licensed her name. I am not sure she is even doing wedding dresses at the moment. Pnina hasn't been around for several seasons nor do I remember her dresses. Or at least there haven't been any super memorable episodes like the early seasons when women were paying $25,000 for some of her dresses. I don't know whether she used to be exclusive to Kleinfelds but now if you go to her website, her dresses are available in a lot of different stores across the country. Perhaps Randy's line will be the new go-to line. I think there have been one-offs in the past season or two where a designer like Lazaro was doing a trunk show and a bride just happened to want a Lazaro dress.