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I completely agree with both of you. I got it, Jane and Rafael haven't been together that long and they're in the unique situation where they are getting to know each other while, at the same time, expecting a baby. But, as much as I love both Jane and Rafael, I hate that each and every time they have some issue she's the one testing him and he is the one looking like a jerk just because he hasn't passed the test (according to Jane's romantic ideas about love and life). Don't get me wrong, he DID act like a jerk with Jane in this specific circumstance (though he was worried, mad at himself, feeling guilty and finally drunk), but come on! Maybe it's me. Color me confused about this love triangle. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, I just don't get it. I like both Rafael and Michael (though I like Jane with Rafael more), but the show basically told me for several episodes that Michael made an unforgivable mistake, that Jane was right dumping him, that Rafael (the father of her baby) is her fate... but at the same time, he fails to meet her expectations (and she has A LOT of expectations) because, you know, his whole life has recently turned upside down; while everybody loves that perfect guy Michael and completely forgot why he and Jane broke up in the first place, whereas Rafael is usually portrayed as a borderline douchebag. So, how am I supposed to believe that Michael still needs a chance after what he did to Jane? And how, exactly, should I believe that Rafael and Jane are meant for each other, if everything he does is basically wrong in everybody's opinion, specially Jane's? (Oh right, except Petra, who is still in love with him... a quadrangle? No, thank you!) The whole triangle is really, really contradictory. Most of them are, I know that, but at least usually you can understand, though not share, both sidepoints. In this case, as soon as you think you know when they're coming from with either Rafael or Michael, they seem to change idea afterwards. I don't know. Obviously the show doesn't want to take official sides because (unfortunately) wants to keep going on with the triangle for awhile but, if that's what they mean, then they should cut Rafael some slack and develop Michael a little bit more, besides his big love for Jane. Michael's character is even more in trouble. It has so much potential (mostly thanks to Brett Dier who is amazing and particularly shines in funny scenes), but you can only see him pining for Jane/hating Rafael and working, on some occasions. Even his bromance with Rogelio, as much as I love it, has everything to do with Jane. On the other hand, Rafael looks like someone who is unable to do right. At least, that's what Jane's disappointed looks seems to suggest me all the time. Yeah, I guess I hate love triangles.

Ever since s6 started I had "this is the final season" feeling. I'm pretty sure I mentioned or asked some news about it in the episode threads and now Nina Dobrev announces she's leaving. I like Elena and, most of all, I'm sad Nina won't be part of the cast anymore (even though I can relate to her -speculation time- possible reasons to leave). Personally, I think TVD should've ended this season. They're wrapping up several storylines (I don't consider Enzo/Sarah a storyline AT ALL), so it would've been organic. Stretching out for another season (and is s7 going to be the last?) it makes zero sense to me. Besides, they have their leading lady quitting. As much as Elena is not the only main character, it's the character that set the whole story up. We found out about the Salvatore brothers only because (and when) she found out too. You can like her or not, but it's true. Hence, I really don't understand why TPTB decided to not end the show this very season (because I can't believe they didn't even think about it once when Nina told them she had no intentions to come back). Unless s7 is very short, I think it's a mistake. That said, I wish Nina all the best for her life and career.

I agree: the switch-off seemed too "fast" and Stefan playing a double-agent would not be the first time. Even if kind of predictable, I'd rather see him pretending than to actually switch off his humanity AGAIN! Judging by next week promo their scenes will be fun, though. I just hope this all switch on and off will be done within next episode because, even if it's done quite well in this specific case, it's been done soooo many times that I can live without it.

I'm spoiled about the comics, though I didn't read them myself. I have the feeling that the show will stay close to the comics for now, so Jessie will actually be Rick's love interest for awhile, but I do think it will end the same way. As far as Andres's role as Rick's new (and bigger) love interest, since in show Andrea is dead, I can either see him stay alone or ending up with someone from the main cast who he bonded with the most, and the only female character fitting this role, imho, is Michonne.

I completely agree, when the blonde woman offered to trim his hair I asked: "Noooo, why???". I liked the episode, but I must confess the sight of Andrew Lincoln shirtless, with wet long hair and trimmed beard, distracted me a lot! For a few moments I just stared at him, forgetting I was watching TWD, lol! :D That said, I'm curious to see what lies ahead. But please, PLEASE Daryl... I get your point, but a shower will not damage you, quite the opposite!

I agree with your whole post, truthaboutluv. And I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that Rebecca is, in fact, Lila's killer (or involved in her murder at the very least), even though it would be apparently too obvious by now. In TV, what is obvious is to find out about a killer's identity in the very last episode, but in this case it would only be refreshing if we had the confirmation that Rebecca is the culprit and for us to finally find out "how" she actually managed "to get away with the murder". Ok, I never trusted her, nor liked her, but I started being suspicious for the first time when Annalise asked Sam to question her. Rebecca told him right away that she already knew she had a high IQ and Sam realized that that was not her first time being questioned. We didn't get to know why she had previously seen a shrink, but I remember I thought it was weird they mentioned Rebecca's high IQ. Now I think it was a hint that she's actually some kind of a mastermind, and maybe it's something she's even done before. Potentially, she could even blackmail the Keating 4, since she knows first hand they're Sam's killers but she's "only" an eyewitness. If TPTB plays this match well enough, the season finale can still be amazing even if we already know who murdered Lila.

Do we know for sure that next season is going to be the last one? Because I've been having the feeling that season 6 could be the last for quite some time (though I know it hasn't been advertised as the final season): all this wrapping up old storylines feel like that. Stefan ready to move on and be in a new relationship that could be even better than his "epic love" with Elena, Liz dying, Jeremy leaving, Delena together like they're endgame, Bonnie back in town, Matt/Tyler pursuing an adult job, marriages, babies... I don't know, it's like they're trying to close all loose ends. Except, of course, the newest ones like useless!Enzo, Gemini Coven and now Mama Salvatore. I really liked this episode. The beginning moved me to tears! All the "I will always need you" and "The worst part is when you come back to normal life" scenes rang so true it didn't even look like TVD for a moment, and I am pretty sure that whoever lost a beloved parent (I lost my father almost 14 years ago and I still miss him badly) felt the same way. I agree that all the characters were at the best versions of themselves this episode and I loved the many, many bonding scenes. Damon/Stefan, Damon/Caroline, Damone/Bonnie (apparently, Damon bonded a lot this time around!), Caroline/Elena... and I may be alone here, but considering everybody blames Elena for not being a good friend, she's been actually a great friend for Caroline this episode and I honestly think she didn't deserve the neck-snapping this time. It's true she's the last person who can give advice about the grieving process, because she's done very stupid things to ease the pain, but that's exactly what she was trying to tell Caroline: she lost two people who were extremely important for her and she reacted trying to excape the hurt by commiting her "two biggest mistakes", by her own admission. I think Elena was genuinly try to convince Caroline that turning off the humanity switch wasn't the solution, because it didn't turned out well for her, too. At least, this is my opinion. Besides all this "turn-the-switch-off" is not only a storyline we've been told like thousands times by now, but it clearly serves the only purpose to pospone the inevitable happy ending for Stefan and Caroline. A bad, bad idea. Let's only hope it's more interesting with Caroline. And that they're not going to drag this out.

I know it's no surprise, but Viola Davis keeps knocking it out of the park! I love her so much! Of course Asher is the one to make the obvious assumption Delfino = Italian = Mob but come on show, is this cliché necessary? I'm just wondering and I swear that I didn't get offended because I'm Italian. On the other hand, it's Asher we're talking about, so I'm not too shocked. I had the impression, or maybe it's just my hope, that Nate did see it coming. Like he was actually expecting to get arrested because he KNEW. I really hope he and Annalise have some kind of agreement, but the finale scene tells me that it's just my wishful thinking: Annalise looked too devasted. When Rebecca questioned Wes about him trusting her or not, I couldn't stop thinking: "Well, maybe Wes trusts you, but I don't. At all." How is she the only one who doesn't freak out? Not even a little bit? And perhaps it's just me not remebering, but where was she the night Lila died? The only way I see the show ending with some hope for the K4 for season 2 is finding out that Rebecca actually killed Lila and setting her up as the only culprit in Sam's murder. That's according to the law. Morally, I can see some sort of redemption only if Rebecca had some help by Sam too. Otherwise it will really become Dexter 2.0

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Rebecca to be shady. I never really trust her and I don't see why Wes is so into her. I mean, I got it, she probably reminds him of his mother, but is that enough? And maybe I missed something, but where was Rebecca on the night Lila died? Do we know? I realized I focused on Sam's whereabouts (because, at first, I was 100% convinced he was the killer... or maybe I wanted to believe that so that the K4 could feel less guilty) but I completely missed Rebecca's. That said, I don't know if she's actually involved in Lila's murder, but I always had the feeling that she's involved with whatever happened to Rudy, since day #1. On a shallow note, Dean Thomas really grew up into a beautiful young man. Does anybody know about a possible renewal for season 2?

Re: Jane who moved on "too quickly" from Michael, I guess we should all consider how hurt she was when she found out what he did. And what he did was such a huge letdown that she was able to move on THAT quickly, imho. I think that when someone you trust completely disappoints you SO much that that disappointment is even bigger than the sorrow you're experiencing, your feelings toward that person can change very fast. That's what probably happened to Jane so no, I don't think she's cold or too rude to Michael. Besides, what Michael did not understand is that trying to make Rafael look guilty of everything that crosses his mind isn't the right thing to do to gain Jane's trust again. To be fair, so far Rafael has been completely honest with Jane and, whenever confronted, he never lied to her. That said, the actor playing Michael has such a goody guy face that makes me feel sorry for him anyway, LOL! At the same time, I understood Xiomara's attitude only to a certain extent, and I agree with everybody talking about double standard here. I get it, Michael was about to become her son-in-law, he's been part of the family for two years and he even helped Alba to stay in US. That doesn't mean Rafael deserved that treatment, though. He's amazing to Jane and it's obvious that he genuinely cares for her: I mean come on, he even studied Jane's e-mail! Besides, even if shocked at the beginning, he didn't run away when Jane confessed him she was still a virgin, and he agreed to wait for her: why is this a demonstration of Michael's (and now Rogelio's) real love, but not Rafael's?

Thank you very much for your post, Pallas! :)

This was not what I expected from a Homeland season finale, but I liked it. It's not the first time they go for the slow pace in the finale after a very intense episode. Last year's, The Star, was quite similar in that after Brody's death they basically showed the audience the ingredients for season 4. In this case, we just saw a few hints of what we should expect from season 5. I loved several scenes. First of all, the opening, where Carrie and Maggie were dealing with their father's stuff and did not want to throw away anything. I lost my father 13 years ago and I still miss him every single day of my life, I perfectly know that pain, and specifically the feeling of not wanting to give away his stuff or clothes with his scent. It rang so true to me. And the little shipper in me loved Carrie/Peter, not only the kiss but all their scenes together. I don't watch Homeland for romance obviously, but I think they highlighted very well why things could actually work between them. They know each other's flaws and darkest secrets, yet they developed feelings anyway because they know what it means to be in the CIA, they understand each other and they always have each other's back. (I just hope Rupert Friend comes back next season: I think he will, but does anybody know for sure?). Their relationship is balanced, even though in such a crazy environment. At the beginning, I rolled my eyes when Carrie's mom showed up. I, too, didn't care for more backstory, until it became obvious she served only one purpose: to let Carrie feel free to be with Peter. Personally, I don't think she should've known better. She grew up knowing that, in her parents case, her father's illness was the reason why her mother left. Frank Mathison basically took the blame of what went wrong because he wanted to protect his daughters from the ugly truth; i.e. his wife wasn't wife material, after all. It doesn't really matter what Carrie subsequently learnt about bi-polarism, as far as she knows she has first hand example of how "people like her" are so damaged and hard to deal with that they can't be in a stable relationship (that's why with Brody was easier). Suddenly, she finds out it is not true. Of course, she had to find this out when Peter already left for Syria, otherwise we couldn't see more drama next season, but I appreciated that little ray of hope from Carrie: we can like her or not, but she's been through some real shit in her life. I did not expect Saul's video to be the reason why Dar Adal was with Haqqani last episode. In 4x11 thread, a few already foreshadowed that Saul would've been Lockhart's successor, but I completely forgot about the video. Besides, I thought Saul was not ready to come back anytime soon, considering how broken she looked after Pakistan, but clearly I was wrong. He came back even more combative, good for him. That said, there's something I really don't get, hence I'll make a short and very basic recap to try to understand: -When Haqqani kidnapped Saul, he made a video showing the world he had a former CIA director in his hands. -It's extremely important this video doesn't go viral, because Saul has been unofficially chosen (as per Dar Adal info) as next director of the CIA and a director cannot be someone who has just been kidnapped by some sort fo Bin Laden. -Dar Adal went to Pakistan and made a deal with Haqqani in exchange of Saul's video. -Saul can now become next CIA director. Now, who decided to make a deal with Haqqani? US President? Dar Adal is Black Ops, therefore he does all the dirty work (like in this case) but he still receives orders from someone, it's not like he took the initiative, is that correct? If that's the case, basically they want Saul to be next director SO BAD to make deals with such a terrorist? If so, why? Is there anybody else? I mean, I know that from a storyline POV it's more compelling if it's Saul, but I can't believe there's no one else (like they did with Lockhart) who can be director without sharing similar burdens. Or, at the very least, without "forcing" a government to negotiate with the chief of Tabilan terrorists. So please, can someone explain this to me? I hope Lockhart sticks around next season. I can't believe I'm saying this, but he grew on me. The scene with him, Carrie, Quinn and Saul was a really nice touch. Loved it.

I like your theory! :)

I'm not from US, therefore I don't know how law works in these cases, but when Rafael and Jane told Petra they found out she's actually someone else, all I could think of was: "Is the marriage still valid? Rafael married Petra, but the real Petra died in 2008 and the woman claiming to be Petra is actually Natalia. Is the marriage even legal?" I agree that, by now, having Magda being Sin Rostro would be too obvious (and thank you natyxg for pointing out that the timing doesn't work either); still she lied to her daughter for some reason because she can walk and Petra obviously doesn't know. JAYJAY1979 I think you may be on to something. I like Rafael, hence I was happy to see Michael fail this time. My first thought was that his brother was somehow involved in the failure, though, since their relastionship is not exactly idyllic. Considering Sin Rostro must be someone the audience already know and that the cast is not too big, I'd place my money on Rafael's father at the moment. Michael thinks it's Rafael because Sin Rostro has been inactive for 5 years, the same years Rafael had cancer, but if Sin Rostro is actually his father, it would make sense that he focused his attention on his son's illness, rather than the drug trafficking. Besides, we don't know anything about him, except that he's married to his daughter's ex-lover. That said, I'm not 100% sure. But I'm glad to wait and see, because this show rocks! :D

Maybe it's just me, but I had the opposite impression. She begged him to stop more than once because "she couldn't lose him" and he had tears in his eyes afterwards. They both had. It was quite intense, almost a sort of a deja-vu of Carrie and Brody's conversation aka "You will die over there!". If anything, I thought the whole situation cemented that, sooner or later, they will go there with Carrie and Peter. In any case, she was right. He didn't stand a chance to get out of there alive with 300 Pakistani soldiers who were already searching for him. That's why seeing Carrie taking her gun, and suddenly deciding to kill Haqqani by herself, took me completely off-guard. All I could think of was: "ARE YOU SERIOUS? You just convinced Peter to back off!" It is my understanding that the CIA station is being completely dismantled and further operations are not allowed, therefore no support whatsoever for Quinn. I agree that it was a suicide mission. As much as Quinn is cool and one of my favourites and a real badass, even him couldn't survive his attempt to kill Haqqani, with all those Talibans, ISI agents and Pakistani soldiers around. Don't know if it's really obvious, but I had the very same thought, otherwise the whole phone call between Carrie and Lockhart doesn't have any sense. I doubt TPTB showed that scene just to let the audience know that they're buddies now and so he called her to give her his condolences. I was really surprised to see Dar-Adal in Haqqani's car (silly me, they even showed him in "Previously on Homeland"), but I'm not ready to think of him as a traitor right away. I feel something's up, too.

I recenty started to watch S1 again: the victim who was pregnant was Sarah Kay, but the pregnancy was at the very beginning, because the victim didn't even know about it. Also, it is my understanding that Paul Spector doesn't rape his victims, he "just" kills them. In the S1 episode I watched, it looks like Paul masturbates while watching videos or photos he made of his victims after he killed them, though.

I was curious, too. That's what they say: Helen: "Listen, I never thanked you." Alison: "For what?" Helen: "For what you did for my daughter the day she choked." Alison: "Oh, it was nothing." Helen: "No, it wasn't."

My first reaction after watching this episode was: "Wow. They REALLY reacted very well, considering they just found out their spouses cheated on them." However, though I still can understand the reasons behind Cole's reaction, I have an hard time understading Helen's. As much as she could have suspicions or be broken hearted, it was still off, imho. Who knows, maybe she's hurt but not THAT hurt because she had/is having an affair too, as others pointed out. Why on earth the detective didn't ask for a reservation under Bailey? Or even Lockhart? In any case, it's been implied several times that something was going on between Scotty and Whitney. If so (and I am sure it is), it's the only motive Noah can have, and that I can think of, for killing Scotty. Even though, so far, I really cannot see him as a potential killer. I can't say the same for Alison, though. The way she appears in her own versions almost doesn't match with the way she is in Noah's, let alone with the phone scene outside the Police Department mentioned above (and I think that the investigation scenes are the only ones supposed to show us the two main characters objectively). In her versions, she looks always very fragile. But in Noah's, as well as at the PD, she is much more stronger and practical. That's why I'm wondering if the flashbacks we're now seeing are still versions they gave to the detective and not just their memories. For several reasons: -I found really hard to believe that, basically, both Noah and Alison confessed their affair the very same day(s). -You can like Noah or not, but I highly doubt that he would've said Cole (paraphrasing): "Thanks for the parental advice, call me when you'll have a teenage son." Considering he knows Cole and Alison lost a child it would've been a very rude and hearltess thing to say, even for Noah. -The fact that Noah's daughter almost choked and that Alison saved her it's only in Alison's version (in Noah's, it's him who saves his own daughter), hence either she's been saved by Noah (and if so, Helen wouldn't have any reason to thank her) or by Alison, like she said. And I agree that the whole scene at the store was weird (since, according to the confirmed timeline, it occured before Helen finds out Alison is Noah's mistress): even prior to affair's confession, Helen has been shown to underestimate Alison (she said Max something like: "The waitress? You can do better than that"), so I really don't know how to read it. I guess it will have much more significance once we'll have more details. -No matter if Noah saw Alison from the window or not, in his version Helen was still mad enough at him to not even enjoy the family hug, while in Alison's version they were all together, happily hugging. Granted, it could just be Alison's perception of the scene she was seeing. But I wonder if all these differences aren't suggesting there's something else, mystery related.

We all know that Jane also developed feelings for Rafael too and that that it was partially the reason why she found the courage to break-up with Michael. That said, what Michael did was huge, imho. Jane told him several times that it was very important for her that Rafael and Petra were a strong couple, yet he knew Petra was cheating on Raf and he also gaslighted Jane by suggesting her hormones were playing with her. He's been selfish, not thinking that what really mattered was the life of a child. And the fact that he changed his mind later doesn't magically erase what he did. I agree that Jane has great chemistry with both Michael and Rafael, but they sold me on the latter. Yes, the kiss was awkwardly filmed but I loved it! I know this show is pure fantasy, but to be fair, how many of us can honestly say that our first kiss with our significant other was perfectly choreographed? In the end, what really matters are the feelings involved and the writers here conviced me that Raf simply couldn't wait and kissed her. And yes, maybe Jane could've waited a little bit more, but she obviously did not expect it to happen that night and she did already call things off with Michael, therefore she was technically free to do whatever she wanted. Finally, as much as they're trying to not completely remove Michael from the equation, for me it's clear that Jane/Rafael is thought to be endgame. I mean, it was clear since day #1 with that "hint" that Jane met Rafael first, it's not like they've been subtle with this. :) That said, I thought the flashback with Michael was really cute. And I am also glad that Michael is a character who can have a storyline on his own that doesn't necessary involve the pregnancy: I'm really curious to find out more about Sin Rostro now! Overall, I really love this show and the cast, and Rogelio is the cherry on top! Edit: isn't it episode n. 6? I see S01E10 instead of S01E06, did I miss something?

Do we know for sure that the two versions happened in the same day, though? This is the very first time I had the impression they are talking about 2 different days. That's something I'm thinking too, at the moment, but I still don't understand why, in Alison's past versions, Noah appeared a little bit more of a jerk. Unless, of course, there's an agreement between them even in the way they had to describe the beginning of their affair.

I hope we won't see sick!Carrie again anytime soon. That said, I have the impression that the ISI woman, Tasneem (sp?), has a different agenda which is not the ISI's one. Her agenda includes: forcing Dennis to do the dirty job at the Embassy, arranging the kidnapping of Saul and substituting Carrie's meds. That's something I started to notice in the episode where they kidnapped Saul, as she and the "bright" (and, I agree, quite handsome) high rank agent just talked about the fact that Saul was leaving Pakistan and she commented the news by saying something like: "Good riddance!". This time, the fact that all the ISI chiefs looked so genuinly offended by Lockhart's accusations (while Carrie noticed Tasneem sending a text from her phone, which is something I don't think she would do at a vital meeting unless it was important), and that the cameras at the airport did not conveniently worked, hiding that Ghazi was indeed there, convinced me even more. Of course, they're all spies, therefore they could all be lying, but I still think something is off. Does anybody else feel the same?

Don't worry, in the Christmas Special episode we will find out he is not going anywhere, he will either end up with Mary or Edith: the "hints" are anvil-sized by now. :)

Poor little Isis... I definitively had something in my eye when Robert lain her on the bed between him and Cora. That said: Heee, me too!! Re: Rose/Atticus, as much as it's rushed, the fact that they keep pointing out over and over that he's Jewish suggested me that that would be the real trouble in their marriage. If the show will go on for another season (or even 2), I can't see Fellowes not touching at least the beginning of WWII. What year is it? 1924? Robert and Cora discussed a young Hitler just a couple of episodes ago. If in show it's 1924, Hitler is in prison and about to write the Mein Kampf, and he will be out soon with all the tragic consequences we all know... I don't know, that's been my impression since the very first moment Atticus (as a Jewish character) has been introduced. Wow, Maggie Smith is amazing. No news here of course, I always love her, but sometimes there are episodes like this one where just a little scene is enough to remind me how much I adore her! Re: Tom, I have to admit I always thought he would've ended up re-married to either Mary or Edith. And not because I am a shipper (I am not), but mostly because back then it was not so uncommon that in-laws married between each other, if widowers. In my country (Italy) it happend at least until 40s. Sure, that was not the rule but, as I said, not so weird either (of course, now it would be inconceivable). Now, this case is a bit unique, because of the Crawley's status. But I can see Tom ending up with Mary or Edith. Mary is the heir of Downtown, it would only makes sense for her next husband to care for Downtown almost as much as she does, and Tom would match the description perfectly. OTOH, as Mary so sweetly pointed out last episode, Edith will have a hard time now to find a man willing to grow up a child who is not his (because of course everybody will soon find out that Marigold is actually Edith's daugther, otherwise I can't see why Fellowes keeps bringing Anna and Mrs Hughes in this). Not only Tom would probably be the only one, but they could potentially run the magazine together too (since Tom has a journalist background as well). And to be honest, if I have to pick for Tom one of the Crawley sister, it would definitively be Edith rather than Mary. I think they would be better suited for each other. But who knows. I doubt Mary has run out of suitors, so maybe she'll find someone by the end of the season, since now even Blake seems out of the equation.

I watched it with no expectations at all, as I was completely unspoiled except for the reference to an affair: overall, I liked it. Obviously, the split POV is what I like the most. As all of you already pointed out, it's very interesting how differently they remember the time they first met. And, since they're talking to a detective (at the very beginning I thought Noah was talking to his therapist), I couldn't help but start speculating about the reason why they are there. And who's telling the truth? Him? Her? Are they both convinced they're telling the truth? My first impression was option #3, because of all those little details (which, by the way, were probably the best part): it makes sense that you remember the best version of the person you fell in love with when you met him/her. Not only Noah remembers Alison with a different, shorter uniform, but she also has a lovely tan, beautiful hair and a sexy make-up, while the memory he has of himself it's of a complete mess, surrounded by his awful children. And when he meets her later, on the beach, she has a sundress and her hair and make-up are still quite good. He seems to think about her as a huge temptation, and that's even before the shower scene occurs. Also, his first impression of her husband is of a rapist (poor Joshua Jackson). Alison's depiction is not very different: in her memories, Noah is way cooler and charming, his children not so annoying, and she's the one who's a mess because she's still grieving. She remembers her look to be pale, with almost no make-up, bad hair and definitively no sexy clothes. The same goes for their meeting on the beach. And her husband Cole is still a bit of a douche but not a rapist. So, as I said, my first impression was that they fell in love with each other and therefore their memories of the first time they met were altered by the vision they had in that particular moment, when they were both vulnerable even though for different reasons. Those were my thoughts at beginning, but then I noticed that their memories were, instead, totally different as far as actual events and dialogues are concerned. It's not just a matter of POV. As I said, I can see why they look hot in each other memories. But it's odd that they rememeber different events or conversations. For instance, in Noah's version, he paid her the tip, Alison didn't participate in saving his daughter, he thinks about her friends at the bonfire as very cool surfers he cannot join, she's the one offering a cigarette and they have a very short talk before going home. In Alison's, though, he forgot to paid her the tip, she helped saving Noah's daughter, she's avoiding the bonfire while he wants to participate, he's the one with the cigarettes and they talked for awhile before going home, even about his father-in-law. Since all these innocent interactions were so different, it's no surprise that the shower scene was also completely different, too. Now, maybe their memories differ so much because some time has passed between that summer and the interrogation scene (at least one year, since she now has another child). But the fact that a detective is questioning them, it obviously means something bad happened and that maybe they're not remembering: they're trying to shift the blame against each other. If so, my speculation is that Alison's husband died and that the police thinks one of them is the culprit. If what really happened is a murder (because c'mon, it can't be anything else), and Cole is the victim, then I'm not so sure that the most "reliable" version is Alison's (and no, not because I watched Luther :D ). I think that it could be Cole because: 1) Alison now uses her maiden name and 2) Cole is the only other person who appears in both versions but who's depicted differently. He's an abusive husband (Alison's motive?) in Noah's POV but he is not in Alison's. Other two little things that could mean all or nothing but that, if they're facing a murder charge, let me think that Noah could be the one telling the truth: 1) in Noah's memories they talk about her favourite book, and she says that is Peter Pan. In Alison's version, they don't have this conversation, but she reads Peter Pan when she goes to her son's gravesite. In both cases, Alison loves this book. But how could Noah know about that if she hadn't told him? It could be a thing he learnt later, but it's an important book for her (she's still reading it to her dead child), how could she not remember they talked about it when they met? 2) in Noah's version, they stop as soon as they arrive at Alison's house and she's the one telling him that she has an outdoor shower. In Alison's memories, he sees the outdoor shower as soon as they arrive Alison's house... but aren't they a bit too far for him to see it? The distance is the same in both versions, but unless he's got an eagle eye, it's hard to believe he could've seen it from there. Again, both could mean anything, really. I guess we can only wait and see. For now, I'll definitively watch.

I don't think the Quinn/Carrie possible ship is out of the blue. I remember that, at TWoP, ever since Quinn made his first appearance and started to interact with Carrie, basically everybody predicted at least a one night stand (clearly not much more, because we couldn't imagine Brody dying back then, nor we had any idea that Quinn was about to become a recurring character first and then the male co-protagonist). Besides, as much as I love Damien Lewis, I was glad Brody died for several reasons, included that I always thought his relationship with Carrie was sick to say the least, while those subtle hints to Quinn made me think about him as a more viable option in the long run, and I warmed up to the idea of the two of them together. That said, I was too caught off guard by all those remarks about him having feelings for Carrie, since so far writers have been quite subtle. Then I thought that, maybe, the CIA is trying to find an explanation to Quinn's behaviour in certain, critical situations (that others, above, have already pointed out), and that the most logic one is that he may have feelings for her. I don't think that whatever happens between them will be rushed: at the moment, they have a lot on their plate. But I'm pretty sure that something will happen this season, just because I can't see the writers avoiding it for such a long time now that Quinn comes back to be with Carrie side by side and they made clear even for casual viewers that he's basically Carrie's next love interest.