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I can buy him coming onto other women, just not dumb enough to come onto the women on this show.

Nobody is disputing any of that. What is and can be disputed is what Rinna is saying Kathy literally said, and if her meltdown was as bad as Rinna claims it is.

Yeah, but we still aren't exactly sure what Kathy said. Just that she had a meltdown.

So Kathy admitted she said she wanted to destroy Kyle, that Sutton and Crystal were pieces of shit and should be fired, and that she wanted to take down Bravo?

That's what made her such an entertaining villain. Unlike another HW who was stupid enough to be caught ON TAPE saying she thought Kim was at death's door and that Kyle was her enabler. :) She is an idiot. Given her soap background, she of all people should know the difference between villains people love to hate and villains that people just hate. Maybe she mistakenly believes a large chunk of people love to hate her instead of just hate her?

You don't need to tell me that, but thanks anyway :)

And I don't.

Her first couple of seasons (which is when the Munchenhousenflousen thing happened) she wasn't so bad as she is now. You think she was solely responsible for that, I don't. I believe LVP and Kyle were involved as well. Simple as that.

Not really, no. Rinna being a garbage person the last few years isn't going to make me retroactively blame her for stuff that happened years and years ago.

That still doesn't mean LVP (and probably Kyle too) weren't involved.

May they both Rest in Peace!

Maybe someone who wants to convert it to a hotel?

I doubt Heather is going to admit at Bravicon that Terry is porking other women.

I'm one of the few who does believe LVP was involved in the Münchausen syndrome drama. But that doesn't change that Rinna has become a really horrible, toxic person. If Kathy was that bad, as others said, why didn't Rinna tell Ericka that Ericka needed to get Kyle back at the house asap?

Finally saw and have to say, it was the best one since the first one. The plot was a bit nonsensical at times, but it was a fun ride overall. I also enjoyed Rogue Nation, thought II and Ghost Protocol were ok, and hated III.

Kathy admitted she said stuff, but did she co-sign what Rinna claimed she said specifically?

Most likely a calculated attempt by Rinna to turn Sutton and Crystal against Kathy,

Heck, you don't even have to look beyond this show for an example of that. Didn't Eileen lose a family member or 2 while she was on? And she never behaved anywhere near as bad while dealing with her grief.

She wants to be a real life human Bratz doll?

Maybe, but imagine their reaction if finding out Garcelle, Sutton, Crystal, and Kathy had their own private chat group...

I like her. I hope she stays.

The way a lot of these women are obsessed with looking younger, they'd probably be so thrilled that someone mistook them for a millennial that they'd go home and masturbate for 5 hours straight.

Others have pointed out that it's motivated by being mad that Crystal "took" Teddi's spot, but I do wonder if some of it was payback for Crystal bring up stuff about Ericka in Aspen. If there is one thing this season confirmed for many, it's that Kyle is a hypocrite with lots of double standards (remember when she and Rinna were reaching for the vapors when Brandi called Kyle the c-word in the season 5 reunion, but were ok with both Diana and Ericka calling Sutton the same?).

I don't see her as a bitch at all, or acting like one (especially using the metrics of the women on this show). Plus, you did say you weren't impressed with her as a champion, not that she would suck as one. I love my opinions and their beauty as well 😊😊 The funny thing is, Crystle and Sutton have cleared things up and are friends now. But, Kyle feels there is some shit that still needs stirring, so...

And I don't see her that way at all. Again, to me it's more about her not being good at emphasizing and bringing her point across clearly. Nobody ever said she was a champion, but good for her for not putting up with other people's bullshit as she sees it. But as you said, that's the beauty of different opinions.