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The bloomers were open (like a slit) at the crotch, so all you had to do was gather up your skirt and squat over a chamber pot or whatever. My grandma helpfully explained this to me once. Sixty years later I'm still mortified.

She did, leading the first carriage. Meant to reply to Atlanta above.

Meh: Saw all of that Oscar shite coming, and I think I can see the future. Agnes isn't moving house. Not meh: EMILY! They did copy her court dress, which can live with. It was lovely. The real opening of the brooklyn bridge was more dramatic, involving PT Barnum and elephants and more, but this was ok. We don't know the exact real story of Emily and her husband because correspondence was burned up. Peggy better watch out for mom, she's on the case. More Audra McDonald is a pure joy.

Hi from New York. I "had occasion" to attend a luncheon at the Metropolitan Club this week, designed by Stanford White, land gifted in the 1890s by Mrs. Duke of Marlborough. The building is beyond spectacular and looks like Bertha's house, one block down. (Metropolitan Club, Fifth and 60th street.) Food was meh, LOL I'm not sure that this is the spoiler thread, but I see Emily Roebling stuff here. They're going to do (i.e. appropriate) the full Emily story next episode. She did all it seems the show is going to say she did, and more, and it looks like they're going to dress her in her in a costume imitating her fabulous yellow Court Dress, which she wore to meet Queesn Victoria. It's in the Met Costume Institute collection now. ONLY Engineer with a court dress presented to the queen of England. This is the only program I've ever watched that covers women structural engineers (my profession) and their formal fashion. (like I said, never wore a dress to be presented to royalty.) It's like nirvana to me.

I don't care, I know it's Fellows Soap Opera, but Cynthia and Robert Sean are the best actors and I'm going to cry until tomorrow. Not much Bertha, but lots of George, I'll take it.

The wedding was awesome - Sean Patrick Reverend seems a solid dude, and sisters Cynthia and Christine nailed it. Mayhem will follow I'm certain, but that was a great Julian Fellows wedding scene. (Although people forget that women couldn't get into those clothes unassisted, one of the maids had to be in on Agnes' surprise appearance and helped her dress. I'm betting it was Debra Monk.)

Squeeeeee! Emily Roebling! The patron saint of female structural engineers!!!!! (I am one of those.) Emily's story is GREAT and I won't spoil it, except to say that the American Society of Civil Engineers Construction Engineering award is the Roebling Award, in honor of John, Washington, and EMILY Roebling. Wheeee!

And the beginning music was Best of My Love, which started the long opening shot in Boogie Nightsi, with Nicole Ari Parker as (whispering) Becky Barnett!

Absolutely. The Trey marriage was something from 1950, really. Bunny wanted to set up Charlotte to marry her ridiculous son because it checked every box and she figured Charlotte would be up for it, for the status as much as the money. But Charlotte always wanted to be married with a lot of sex, which Trey couldn't provide, possibly because of mommy issues (my take). She definitely didn't want to have to be a society wife on salary, essentially, with no hotness in the marriage. She's ok, IMO, I mean I can't say I wouldn't put my doggie in Burberry if I had the money.

I squee-ed when I saw Rosemary DeWitt. A long time ago, like I guess 2006ish, my niece and I went to have a fancy snooty Thanksgiving dinner in Morris County NJ, I think the Pluckemin Inn in Bedminster. We got seated in the cellar, which was not a slight, actually even snootier and blissfully quiet. There was only one other table, with an older gentleman and a young couple. My niece saw them first. The woman was saying "You don't know Dad, the show may not even be picked up." Niece side-nodded at them and whispered to me "post it..." and since I'm always so cool I said, kinda loud "what the f do you mean POST IT?" It was Ron Livingston and Rosemary DeWitt having T-Day dinner with her Dad. They were very gracious, she chatted with me in the ladies room even though I wanted to melt into the floor. The show that might not have been picked up was Mad Men.

Lifetime NYC bar patron here. I've always worked in Manhattan, and if Steve has had the same bar for 30 years, through recessions and COVID, in real life I'd have been there, Steve's would be famous and a NY fixture. Actual tourist reviews on Yelp like "OMG we went to Steve's for beers and burgers, just the place to go by Lincoln Center like everyone says!!" NY Post Page 6: "Leo DiCaprio and newest model GF spotted in the back room at Steve's!!!" Steve himself would be more well known in NYC than the dipshit billionaires on the show. Brady would already know how to make a mean cocktail. They'd be wearing merch. Instead Steve goes to "the bar" like he's going to go mop floors.

There was easily a hundred thousand bucks worth of clothes in this episode. Carrie's dumb coat in the snow probably cost 20 grand. (Source: tomandlorenzo.com). They have some wardrobe budget - even if they're rentals. Julie White!!! The star of the episode! This really was a good episode, except for the Goldenblatt-Yorks. I'm just gonna go on thinking that parents don't trudge through snowstorms to deliver birth control to their kid who's about to have sex for the first time, okay?

Also, why are they showing super rich people with no support staff? Charlotte doesn't clean that apartment herself. They'd all have assistants to do things like arrange parties. They'd have nannies. The Met Gala (which they called the Met Ball for some reason) costs $35K for a ticket and then another $50k and up for the couture. They'd hardly ever be in cabs, they'd take black cars. See: Succession.

I had breast cancer (bad) at 51. I'm 64 now. Aging has definitely been a privilege, thank you for that❤️. More statistics: Candice Bergen is 77 and is a gift to all of us. Gloria Steinem is almost 90 and is one of the greatest humans who has ever lived. I guess I have to thank SJP for having this teevee show that gets those two goddesses to show up. I flat out f-forwarded through Charlotte and Miranda's stories. Charlotte is cool and gorgeous but the story was silly, and Miranda is just....someone else. I have known a lot of people in a lot of circumstances, but nothing like this. People trans, people come out, people realize they were living the 'wrong' life. But the Miranda character is agreeing to being abused after a lifetime of success, and the show is treating it like it's funny and she's being a poor sport.

Remembering Matthew Macfadyen's wonderful hand clench in Sense and Sensibility almost 20 years ago. He's so freaking hot. Tagging Greg was hilarious. Someone in the NY Times semi-spoiled the ending by leaving a comment about the only unassisted triple play in world series history (baseball) was by a player named Wambsganss. Took out 3 players at once, solo, like 1920 or so.

Sorry if this is too much, but I got that Marcia and Kerry and Logan had throupled, if that's a verb.

Wow, Ronan had a type or what! I know that church, St. Ignatius Loyola. They are film-friendly and use the fees they get to help the homeless and other people in need. Rewatching now.

I'm so squeamish about watching this show, more so than the "normal" violent murder shows like Sopranos or Boardwalk Empire, because these characters are going to eat dead people. I guess I have boundaries? Speaking of New Jersey series settings, Yellowjackets shouted out three times to my stomping grounds - "remember that time we were in Holmdel?" And the motel where Natalie was tied up was called the Jolly Pitcher - there's a big old historic hotel on the Navesink River in Red Bank called the Molly Pitcher, named after a revolutionary war heroine (battle of Monmouth) and the number Shauna blurted out included 671, which is the local phone number for Middletown, between Red Bank and Holmdel. Very meta, show.

Right! The smoking hot person who busts into a drawing room on a big horse!!! I like how they ended things. Marian couldn't marry Mr. Raikes because ruination wouldn't have been a viable plot line next season - well, unless they sack Jacobson. I like how they're showing Ada to be slyer and smarter than Agnes thinks she is. (Aside: I've mentioned that I am more than a little descended from old New York. I actually had an Aunt Ada in real life, born in NYC in 1900. She and her husband Harold talked in Locust Valley Lockjaw and were seriously snooty, but otherwise ok. She was kind of artistic, could paint daintily and was good at needlework. My Aunt Ada didn't embroider in the dark without glasses though.) Show: Kelli O'Hara is stealing the scenes she's in, killing it with sincerity. I feel like every season is going to feature a woman throwing herself at George Russell as long as he continues to smolder. PS. Today at work when I was sneaking reads of this thread, the pop up ads were for Tracy Letts' new play - Carrie C***'s hubby (Tonys, Pulitzer). That's some algorithm!

On the accents: Julian Fellows characters never speak in period accents. If they did, we wouldn't understand them. Watch a British or American movie from the 1930s, then imagine what the people would have sounded like in the decades before. Also Nathan Lane is probably not over the top for the 1880s, but it's weird for only he to be period-accurate. (Or maybe not, LOL.)

Yes, Stanford White decorated their house, hence the grandeur. When Peggy went home to Mom I was disappointed that we didn't get an appearance from the Maid of Shade. I'll refrain this week from kvetching about the faux scenery.

I still get enraged when I see the perfect concrete curbs and wide sidewalks with shrinkage joints carefully spaced according to 21st century standards. At least they make LJ the second least believable thing in the show. The third least believable thing is Aunt Ada embroidering in the dark without glasses. I guess she wore contacts.

Just dropping by to point out that if you want to "be an architect" you have to study for like 10 years, have a sense of color, space, texture and light, know how to math (including some calculus), be able to draw REALLY well, understand physics, geology and construction material properties, and work well with clients. It's the opposite of easy. Stanford White was a genius and even he had to study as an assistant to HH Richardson for six years.

Really good place to read about old NYC building architecture and structural engineering: https://oldstructures.nyc/blog/